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Indeed.
1 posted on 01/26/2013 4:59:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Here’s the problem....demographics. The huge blocks of blacks and/or hispanics aren’t listening and are loyal Dems...aka...the sheep. She can’t change that.


2 posted on 01/26/2013 5:02:50 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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It seems that our country is under attack...it has been successfully divided by the Obama and the Libs.

There are very few who have not joined a choir. There are only two...the Left Choir and the Right.

We will never win any of those on the Left...they are dead to us.

We need to scream the truth...but don't be heartbroken when none on the left join us.

Palin is wonderfull...but her sell-by date has expired.

5 posted on 01/26/2013 5:05:37 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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You can say that again.. less and less people are showing up for choir practice...
Wonder what that means?... maybe less and less members of the choir?..

Republican pastors are getting blown off course.. and when I say blown I mean blown.. the republican party sucks..


8 posted on 01/26/2013 5:09:42 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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How exactly can one compete with...Santa Claus?


13 posted on 01/26/2013 5:18:39 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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Many of our “representatives” (elected of self-appointed) don’t even wan to preach to the choir.


21 posted on 01/26/2013 5:26:57 PM PST by YHAOS
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You have to wait for the takers to get mugged before they wake up.

The mugging will occur sometime this year.

24 posted on 01/26/2013 5:29:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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Is Sarah signaling she is going to be joining the lib media?


29 posted on 01/26/2013 5:44:47 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (The owner of a uterus has no more "right" than a gun owner, to kill innocent lives.)
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Now, with values and judgments like that, that's my kind of LEADER!
31 posted on 01/26/2013 5:50:07 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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I agree with Rep. Ryan saying you must pick fights you can win or use to educate citizens on government problems, but the GOP must stand rock solid on its core issues.

To endure the GOP has to decide it represents solid, conservative values and stick to these values. The values are: America is a constitutional republic, the elected politicians and government administrators must follow the constitution. The first 10 Amendments recognize our natural rights and limit government’s powers.

Conservatism is a belief in a higher power and natural rights, government is subject to the citizens, not over the citizens. Family is the natural unit and every life is sacred. Citizens are responsible for their own lives, families and must support themselves unless sick or disabled (only then will private charity or government offer a hand). Citizens and business may keep the fruits of their work and taxes are are limited to necessary government (social order, infrastructure, defense, judicial access, administration, agencies exist only for necessary government duties). Capitalism, not socialism, is the way for us to prosper. Government regulation exists to the point necessary to keep markets orderly, provide equal access and to prevent or prosecute fraud. No citizen or business unit is more equal than another, all are equal under the law and in the market place. Taxes and regulations are for revenue or regulation, not social engineering or promoting an agenda beyond the narrow purpose for which enacted.

Services and support from government are for the benefit of citizens and legal residents. Any illegals are here on sufferance only and subject to all laws.


36 posted on 01/26/2013 5:54:37 PM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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Mrs. Palin is the one to do it.
Don’t get discourged by the time line it will take, it may be a couple (or more) of election cycles.
We did it up here (took many years), but it can be done.
Hang in there, FRiends.


38 posted on 01/26/2013 6:06:21 PM PST by Dartman
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Mitt Romney won independents in the swing states. The problem is not ‘moderate’ voters. They were clearly not happy to vote for Obama and his awful record. The problem was that the base did not turn out. What the Republican party needs to do is build the grand coalition again. Why is it that Netanyahu can build a coalition government from the devout Orthodox Jews, the nationalists, and the capitalists, but we can’t effectively do a similar thing here?

The real problem is the leadership. We have people who do not know how to talk to the constituencies of the GOP, and don’t uphold conservative principles.
It is so simple, yet nobody gets it. The platforms of the Republican Party are eternal. They should not change like the Democrat platforms which fit with whatever the zeitgeist is at the time. That’s the difference between right and left. They do what’s popular, we do what’s right, and convince people of that fact.

If the GOP goes left on social issues like gay marriage and abortion, they will lose so much of the base, they will never win. If the GOP goes left on economic issues, they will lose so much of the base, they will never win. So WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU GO LEFT AT ALL??? The way to win is to be conservative, and SELL conservatism! Mark Levin really said it. “When we got the conservative we wanted, we won two landslide victories!”

We need to talk to people outside the party, obviously, but only to CONVERT them to conservatism, not to pander to their own preconceived ideas and change conservatism to fit them. You want Latino voters? Go to them, show them what the Democrat party did to their last golden voting bloc, threw them into inner city ghettos full of gang violence and cruddy education. You argue for legal immigration, and remind them of all the criminals who made their home country a hellhole, who would come to America illegally and do the same.
Some have suggested we try to increase immigration from Eastern Europe, because of their aversion to communism, and Christian background.
That’s another thing we need to do. Stop being fearful of using Christianity and the values of the Bible to our advantage. Point out how anti-Christian DemoRats really are and denounce any church that does not actually teach Christianity, but a bastardized progressive version of it. We’ve already made headway in converting Catholic leadership to our cause, now we have to work on Catholics themselves. We have to make any Christian that would vote Rat feel guilty. There are a million strategies we can use, and ‘moderation’ as the pundits preach, is not one of them.


47 posted on 01/26/2013 6:25:18 PM PST by Viennacon
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Whoever is going to lead us back to the right path will need the character to start EVERY interview, debate, etc. with something very similar to this statement:

“Barack Obama is in favor of aborting babies in the womb, aborting them partially outside the womb, and committing straight out infanticide by killing them when the baby is 100% outside the womb. Obama will scream and cry that I am slandering him. I welcome a debate anytime with Obama or any supporter and will pulverize them with facts supporting my accusation. This country has gone too far down a very ugly road and it's time for an immediate U-turn. And please hear this loud and clear: There will be NO 24 hour apology!"

49 posted on 01/26/2013 7:00:06 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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As for her future plans, Palin told Breitbart News the “door is wide open.” Please me, squeeze me--but don't tease me. Or, if you don't want our peaches, don't shake our tree.
52 posted on 01/26/2013 7:17:44 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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The FNC audience demographics matches Rush’s listeners and the GOP base’s as well as Palins fans: white over 50.

Looking closely she doesn’t say much. Exactly how? is missed.

So she wasn’t ‘expanding her audience’ in her 2011 make believe POYUS run?


57 posted on 01/26/2013 8:12:42 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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