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Pentagon laying off 46,000 employees
cnn ^ | January 25, 2013 | Barbara Starr,

Posted on 01/26/2013 6:33:25 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

Washington (CNN) -- The Pentagon has begun laying off 46,000 contract and temporary civilian employees in an effort to cut back on military spending, the No. 2 Pentagon official said on Friday. Full time civilian employees, which number in the hundreds of thousands, also will be furloughed for one day a week for 22 weeks, Deputy Defense Secretary Ash Carter said in an interview with wire service reporters. His comments were confirmed by a Pentagon spokesman.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arlingtonva; bhodod; defensespending; jobcuts; layoffs; obamanomics; pentagon; pentagonlayoffs; sequestration
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Why do I imagine that these are the only layoffs that really make leftist happy?
1 posted on 01/26/2013 6:33:37 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta

Well that will help traffic in DC.


2 posted on 01/26/2013 6:35:39 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

You beat me to it.


3 posted on 01/26/2013 6:38:34 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The US Ambassador was just murdered by al Qaeda on 9/11. What a coincidence. NOT.



4 posted on 01/26/2013 6:43:49 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: FreeAtlanta
November 6, 2012, Richmond Times Dispatch:

"With a few precincts still outstanding, Obama led the 2012 count in Fairfax by about 85,250 votes, in Prince William by about 17,400 votes and in Loudoun by 7,100 votes."

These people who are being laid off are getting exactly what they (and their neighbors) voted for. Twice. I am not a leftist, and I am not happy, but I do enjoy the rich irony inherent in this announcement. I hope someone takes out a newspaper ad and points this out to them.

5 posted on 01/26/2013 6:43:53 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: FreeAtlanta

This is only the beginning but butter wins out.


6 posted on 01/26/2013 6:46:30 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: La Lydia

I see your point. Hopefully, most of these 46,000 were Obama voters.


7 posted on 01/26/2013 6:51:24 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: driftdiver

Plus the Blue and Yellow lines will be a lot more pleasant.


8 posted on 01/26/2013 6:52:27 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ok, the Pentagon has now suffered. Why can’t the freeloader butter-segment suffer any?

Why can’t cut welfare back 10% NOT A MENTION of EVER making these folks suffer one iota.

Why do I feel that THIS will be the only cut we ever see? And they will continue to target it.

Everything else stays, including our overpaid congressionals ...


9 posted on 01/26/2013 6:53:01 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: FreeAtlanta

I would love to hear that the entire EPA was laid off.


10 posted on 01/26/2013 6:54:16 PM PST by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: LibsRJerks

I am in favor of dropping the EBT cards and just sending survival food to homes that need it. If someone has a food allergy (the only argument against this plan that I have heard), then let them check a box that they have a food allergy and they will get a substitute.

Yeah, I am a hard arse, but this plan is better than our government collapsing and these moochers not getting anything.


11 posted on 01/26/2013 6:58:35 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The full purge has begun

Let's hope there are leaders among them

Good men like Alan West have been short changed and we NEED some good leaders.

12 posted on 01/26/2013 7:00:20 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: FreeAtlanta

They had to hold off until “O” was re-elected.....it’s gonna blow a hole in the Unemployment numbers.

Notice no government Employees.....were laid off. That’s the BIG problem in DC, too many self serving Public servants on the payroll shuffling paper.


13 posted on 01/26/2013 7:02:17 PM PST by 4Speed
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To: FreeAtlanta

Department of Education....close that affirmative action hiring haven and save on 5,000 salaries. Close EPA and that saves 14,000 bloated salaries


14 posted on 01/26/2013 7:02:22 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: La Lydia

Schadenfreude, by definition, is sweet.


15 posted on 01/26/2013 7:05:10 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Prior to food stamps people reported to welfare offices and picked up commodity packages of flour, sugar, cheese, beans, rice peanut butter etc. We should return to that. If you are too stupid to cook beans and rice then you starve.

I saw those bulk commodities when I was young but already they were being phased out for food stamps. EBT cards are even more abused


16 posted on 01/26/2013 7:06:31 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: La Lydia
Probably not ~ Department of Defense employees and contractors are located all over the country ~ Congress makes sure of that. All they have in the DC area are parts of the intelligence apparatus and the main headquarters operation (called the Pentagon).

Your friends and neighbors are taking the layoffs ~

17 posted on 01/26/2013 7:14:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: sauropod
Prayers.
18 posted on 01/26/2013 7:16:01 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: FreeAtlanta
having the gub'mnt make up the survival paks will cost many times more than just using the ordinary services of the grocery stores. They are much cheaper than gub'mnt!

Then, think of the UPS parcel costs ~ WOW!

I think the current system that has the welfare folks go to the store to pick up their own stuff is probably as cheap as it can get.

19 posted on 01/26/2013 7:17:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: FreeAtlanta

If they need food they should have to go to a central place to pick up “survival food”as you called it. REAL FOOD not prepared. If they complain that they don’t know what to do or how to prepare it tell them there’s a cookbook included for them. I HATE standing behind them in the grocery store seeing what they buy.


20 posted on 01/26/2013 7:20:13 PM PST by azishot (When your life is on the line, lead is worth more than gold.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Less government workers? Perfect.


21 posted on 01/26/2013 7:20:52 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: muawiyah

http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/budget-entitlement-programs


22 posted on 01/26/2013 7:22:31 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: azishot

If they need food they should have to go to a central place to pick up “survival food”as you called it. REAL FOOD not prepared. If they complain that they don’t know what to do or how to prepare it tell them there’s a cookbook included for them. I HATE standing behind them in the grocery store seeing what they buy.

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Hate standing behind them in line seeing where they are FROM. Wally Mart in our area on a Sunday night is like a third world bazaar of EBT card holders.

Now, how can we sustain our budget if we suckered into supporting the lives of everyone who immigrates here? This is the GREAT elephant in the room. We’re cutting our defense for this?

Medicare and Medicaid included ...many on THOSE roles who don’t pay into it, never have, and never will.

I’m tired of this charade.


23 posted on 01/26/2013 7:33:07 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: FreeAtlanta

What difference does it make?


24 posted on 01/26/2013 7:34:26 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: FreeAtlanta

What difference does it make?


25 posted on 01/26/2013 7:34:53 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I wonder how many voted for Obama.


26 posted on 01/26/2013 7:35:11 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Furlough, in government/union speak doesn’t that mean paid time off as in vacation?


27 posted on 01/26/2013 7:35:34 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: muawiyah

bid it out to 4 or 5 companies and have it up for renewal on an annual or bi-annual term.

Screw government. It can be done with private companies. Use the UPS to deliver so we get something out of those clowns.


28 posted on 01/26/2013 7:36:41 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: fella

I have heard rumors that after the budget problem is eventually settled, the furloughed workers will receive compensation (back pay). I don’t know if that’s true. If it is true, then it’s basically an unexpected paid vacation. Sweet for them, huh?


29 posted on 01/26/2013 7:39:21 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: LibsRJerks

We had a friend (notice I said “had”) whose wife became a citizen ONLY because she could get social security even though she had never worked here for even one day. She actually got more than my mom who’d worked for most of her life. Something’s not right.


30 posted on 01/26/2013 7:45:40 PM PST by azishot (When your life is on the line, lead is worth more than gold.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

During the 1995-1996 government shutdown, Congress retroactively paid all federal employees. In 2011 the Dems were already pushing for the same type of deal if there would be a shutdown.


31 posted on 01/26/2013 7:47:16 PM PST by Theoria
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To: FreeAtlanta

Sure. Defense workers lean right. So the Leftists have no trouble cutting them. And all to often, Republicans go along. All during the 1990s when Defense was being cut and consolidated, I said over and over that the Right was shooting itself in the foot.


32 posted on 01/26/2013 7:51:13 PM PST by rbg81
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To: FreeAtlanta

46K of how many?


33 posted on 01/26/2013 7:53:05 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: fella

It’s unpaid vacation. The only thing that the gov’t covers...is the amount that is owed for healthcare (their portion, not yours).

So you add this up, and it’s basically three days a month from 1 April to the end of September (you work 17 of the normal days, and take 3 days off). Figure around 16 percent of your pay cut for each month, approximately.

But there is this other side of the deal. If you work with a group of twenty employees....every one of them is on a different schedule. Some guys might take all three off at once. Some might rig up a 3-day weekend. Some might just take a five-day weekend at the end of each month. So you can’t readily view your accomplishments in a normal manner.

I should add this last note. Once we prove that this works, and make it to October....it’s a 95 percent chance that no budget will exist for FY2014, and by January of 2014...we start furlough version 2.0, with another 22 day furlough. And by October 2014? Still no budget? Repeat with another 22 day furlough.

By October of 2015? You can imagine the frustration and hostility over this. Most folks will be talking of early retirement...moving out of DC because of the reduced paycheck...or just accepting a regular job in Texas because this is all a gimmick operation. Maybe in a way...it was designed to this way to purge out the military in five years.


34 posted on 01/26/2013 8:03:23 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: rbg81

Exactly. Most DOD civilians employees are former military.

Of course, the left doesn’t mind cutting a work force that did not vote for it. It’s sort of like killing two birds with one stone.


35 posted on 01/26/2013 8:06:00 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: muawiyah

Actually, due to BRAC, DoD civilian employees have been concentrated even more in the DC area in the last few years.


36 posted on 01/26/2013 8:44:24 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
SOME employee groups ~ not the whole thing. There's plenty of consolidation that's taken place elsewhere.

There's been no massive influx of DOD employees here ~ almost all the activity has involved moving people from older not sufficiently secure facilities to newer militarily secure buildings.

37 posted on 01/26/2013 8:48:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: FreeAtlanta

Agreed. It’s hard to abuse a ration of rice, beans, flour, peanut butter and some veggies and fruit. And such a diet would be motivation to get a job and work, or grow a garden or find another option.


38 posted on 01/26/2013 8:48:22 PM PST by tbw2
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To: 4Speed

Notice no government Employees.....were laid off. That’s the BIG problem in DC, too many self serving Public servants on the payroll shuffling paper.
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In many agencies its the contractors who do the actual work. The federal employees don’t know how to do squat.


39 posted on 01/26/2013 8:50:48 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: 4Speed

Notice no government Employees.....were laid off. That’s the BIG problem in DC, too many self serving Public servants on the payroll shuffling paper.
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In many agencies its the contractors who do the actual work. The federal employees don’t know how to do squat.


40 posted on 01/26/2013 8:51:01 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: FreeAtlanta
Why do I imagine that these are the only layoffs that really make leftist happy?

Not by a long shot.
The scumbags want everybody laid off so that they must turn to government for the "help" and "free stuff" Democrat politicians are only too happy to hand out in exchange for votes.

The moochers outnumber the producers, the parasites outnumber the hosts.
America is dead. The Democrats have won.

Hunker down, hide and protect what you have, and take care of your family. Learn from the Democrat party base how to game the system, and grab whatever you can from government before the parasites gobble it all up. I understand SSDI is a popular and easy scam these days. You haven't "twisted your back" lately, have you? Of course, I think you can get on the SSDI gravy train just by being an alcoholic or a junkie. Or even just by being "depressed"! Anyway, good luck.

41 posted on 01/26/2013 8:58:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: azishot

We had a friend (notice I said “had”) whose wife became a citizen ONLY because she could get social security even though she had never worked here for even one day. She actually got more than my mom who’d worked for most of her life. Something’s not right.

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No, it’s not. And these folks ALSO receive Medicare and/or Medicaid. Medicaid for sure ...but as an RN, I was shocked to see that many of them are also on the Medicare roles ...esp the elderly folks, those who immigrated here wtihin the past 10 years or so. Somehow they just jump on the bandwagon and no one questions how long they’ve actually paid into the system — or, if ever.

And we wonder why entitlement spending is out of control. Nobody talks about this.


42 posted on 01/26/2013 9:33:20 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: FreeAtlanta
Hey. How about laying off all the employees of ALL government agencies for a day a week? How come it's only the DOD employees?

Frankly, they give more value to the country for their time then most of the lard asses which infest the other agencies.

How about cutting EBT cards 20% for the slugs and parasites who never show up for any meaningful work? Maybe we can do the same for ALL government employees while we're at it.

There are plenty of places to cut besides the DOD.

43 posted on 01/26/2013 9:34:24 PM PST by Gritty (Americans need serious firepower to give tyrants pause-or stop them if they don't pause-A.Napolitano)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks FreeAtlanta.


44 posted on 01/26/2013 9:41:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: driftdiver

Nothing is going to help traffic in DC except a complete firing of those in charge of it and bringing in people who actually know something about traffic administration and control.

Also a great need for a well trained Traffic Division whose main job is to manage the “speedy and efficient” flow of traffic (from my old course on “Traffic Patrol and Administration” in the 1970’s).

Traffic signs are a disaster, one of the key chokepoints in people getting around by car. Blame the Dept. of the Interior for that along G.W. Parkway heading towards Rosslyn. You have less than one second to find the correct sign to split off to Rosslyn but the sign is small, brown background with white letters which disappear in bad weather. Some jerk actually got paid to do that.

Re Defense contractors and parttimers. I know liberal civilians at DOD and some conservatives. That is not the problem. These guys work, I’ll say that.

It is crackpot DOD policies that cost us billions in wasted dreams (Pick a fighter-plane, please). We produce a couple dozen fighters at $35 million of more per plane while Red China turns out a good fighter at a quarter or less of that cost. We make 60, they might 600. Guess who’s gonna win in a dogfight or swarm attack? The same for ships.

Our military leadership at JCS/DOD stinks, the worst I’ve seen since the Carter Administration. At least the guys I knew in Nam were fighting to win, not for a draw or withdrawal.

There are great problems within the DOD legal sections regarding Rules of Engagement, the problems of pregnancy, esp. in the Navy, and double payments to plaintiffs for environmental CERCLA cleanups (I’d say probably hitting over $1 Billion in recent years).

If any place needs a RIF, it is in the Defense establishment, esp. the planners and Politically Correct fools.

PS: I work with some of the better military people. They often have to follow halfassed policies. Not their fault, and even they talk about the problems from above.


45 posted on 01/26/2013 11:22:47 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: FreeAtlanta

I expect to be one of those furloughed for 22 days over the next 22 weeks. Will tighten things up, but will also allow me to “test” what retirement will feel like as I spend the day with my wife who will retire soon...It will be interesting to see how this works - our area is pretty much a mad house each day and I have been working (voluntarily) about 12 extra hours a week to make ends meet. Won’t do that any more, so things are likely to start eroding.


46 posted on 01/27/2013 4:58:20 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I expect to be one of those furloughed for 22 days over the next 22 weeks. Will tighten things up, but will also allow me to "test" what retirement will feel like as I spend the day with my wife who will retire soon...It will be interesting to see how this works - our area is pretty much a mad house each day and I have been working (voluntarily) about 12 extra hours a week to make ends meet. Won't do that any more, so things are likely to start eroding.

Makes me feel bad for the military who will be asked to take up the slack - our area is about 60/40 military/civilian and there's lots going on - bound to destroy the last vestiges of morale. Since we've been undermanned to boot, we will be braking a number of rules about how many instructors are available - going to be paperwork nightmare for the commander to sign all the individual waivers.

47 posted on 01/27/2013 5:01:04 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: dennisw

That was a different era, there were large quantities of excess food purchased to maintain prices.

Do those excesses still exist? Did food stamps come on line as the excesses diminished?

Lastly, aren’t excess foods packed off to Africa or somewhere? US AID gives it away. Perhaps there is not enough to distribute here so it is shipped to Africa


48 posted on 01/27/2013 5:06:09 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: trebb

———will also allow me to “test” what retirement will feel like——

Perhaps, but there is not really enough time. Hopefully you will learn that you can get out of the rut and do whatever you want.

The problem becomes what do I want to do?

Good luck to you during the coming change


49 posted on 01/27/2013 5:14:01 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Yeah, but the important thing is, Big Bird is safe.


50 posted on 01/27/2013 5:22:31 AM PST by GreenHornet
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