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Shops to start charging you for paying by credit card from tomorrow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268744/New-fee-using-credit-card-begins-Sunday-retailers-sa ^ | January 26, 2013 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 01/27/2013 7:28:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip

A new rule going into effect Sunday could cost you more when shopping with a credit card at some stores.

Visa and Mastercard have agreed to let merchants add a service charge equal to the cost of processing a credit transaction to the bottom line. The cost of processing is usually 1.5 to 3 perc cent, and merchants are capped at a 4 per cent fee under the agreement.

The rule change was made as part of settling an antitrust suit brought by retailers.

Merchants will still not be allowed to add a surcharge to debit card transactions.

However, few stores seem interested in raising their customer's costs.

'We have discussed the settlement with many, many merchants, and not a single merchant we have spoken to plans to surcharge,' said Craig Sherman, spokesman for the National Retail Federation, which was not involved in the lawsuit.

Wal-Mart, Target, Sears and Home Depot all told NBC News that they had no plans to add a credit card surcharge.

California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, New York, Oklahoma and Texas all ban credit card surcharges.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creditcardfees; creditcards; creditcardsurcharge
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1 posted on 01/27/2013 7:28:22 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

IMHO - it’s about time.

Amex was the worst - they’d cook up backroom deals with corporate clients, then charge merchants 8% on usage.


2 posted on 01/27/2013 7:31:35 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Uncle Chip
Stores already have their card fees hidden within their sales price just as they've included every other running expense within the price you pay. Does anyone really think they'll lower the shelf price to accommodate those who pay with cash? No, I didn't think so.
3 posted on 01/27/2013 7:32:31 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Oh brother. This will happen just not now but within two years, we will be stuck with the fees everywhere. I am so sick and tired of getting screwed with everything we do these days. I am telling you that soon we might have about 10 bucks a week left that is actually ours.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 7:33:16 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Uncle Chip
So let me understand this. Merchants that decide to do this will still keep prices of products which included the cost of using credit cards. So we probably will still be paying both ways since Merchants will never reduce prices of their products, you can bet on that.

Those in California will shi! a brick. Sales tax out of sight and add up to 4 percent more for using credit cards. I'm out of here. Stick the credit cards up their collective butts.

5 posted on 01/27/2013 7:36:47 AM PST by Logical me
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To: bgill

I’ve seen “cash discount” before. once or twice, in the past... say 30 years of shopping.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 7:37:39 AM PST by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: Uncle Chip

Any store that starts adding the surcharge will find their business severely reduced. Unless all of them do it, none of them will do it. (Excepting super ritzy stores where average Americans don’t shop). There are multiple stores in many areas, and people will not stand for paying more at one store because of a surcharge when they can go a different store in the area (or the mall) for a lesser price.


7 posted on 01/27/2013 7:42:59 AM PST by driftless2
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To: VAFreedom
I’ve seen “cash discount” before. once or twice, in the past... say 30 years of shopping.

I saw it a week ago at a gun store. 2% discount for cash. I'm guessing 2% is what they were being charged by the credit card companies.
8 posted on 01/27/2013 7:43:01 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Logical me

“...Merchants will never reduce prices of their products, you can bet on that.”

It really depends on the Merchant. In the smaller, brick and mortar stores, where you may sometimes deal with the owner, or an owner informed associate, you can get a discount by paying cash. You just have to ask at check out time. I have done this many times locally or as a tourist.


9 posted on 01/27/2013 7:44:08 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Most of our credit card users are the government agencies. I for one like the idea of adding our bank processing fees of.5% to the bill.
Lots of the card purching is in the thousands of dollars.


10 posted on 01/27/2013 7:50:21 AM PST by primatreat ("gimme me "Obama EBT free money card I can pick boogers and flick them at white folks on the bus!!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Most of our credit card users are the government agencies. I for one like the idea of adding our bank processing fees of.5% to the bill.
Lots of the card purching is in the thousands of dollars.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 7:50:21 AM PST by primatreat ("gimme me "Obama EBT free money card I can pick boogers and flick them at white folks on the bus!!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Most of our credit card users are the government agencies. I for one like the idea of adding our bank processing fees of.5% to the bill.
Lots of the card purching is in the thousands of dollars.


12 posted on 01/27/2013 7:50:28 AM PST by primatreat ("gimme me "Obama EBT free money card I can pick boogers and flick them at white folks on the bus!!)
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To: LostInBayport; VAFreedom

Spec’s Liquor stores in Houston area used to offer a discount for cash - don’t know if they still do or not, booze isn’t in the budget right now.


13 posted on 01/27/2013 7:52:11 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Merchants will still not be allowed to add a surcharge to debit card transactions.

Free market my hiney.
14 posted on 01/27/2013 7:56:01 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: P.O.E.
I wholeheartedly agree that it is about time. As a merchant that accepts credit cards, as well as a developer of POS systems, it drove me nuts that Visa/MC/Amex/Disc would roll out generous "incentives" and "freebies" for card holders, then up the rates on merchants to pay for them!

Who is really giving who 2% cash back?
15 posted on 01/27/2013 8:02:39 AM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: P.O.E.

It’s too bad, because a Merchant displaying “American Express Gladly Accepted” was sending a red flag signal to customers that he overcharged.


16 posted on 01/27/2013 8:08:15 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: LostInBayport
2% discount for cash

It does sound better when you call it "cash discount" vs "credit card surcharge."

It is not uncommon out here to see separate prices at gas stations for cash vs credit cards.

I was never sure whether debit card transactions were the same as credit card transactions as the same card works both ways.

17 posted on 01/27/2013 8:13:52 AM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: duckman
I think it depends more upon whether or not the storeowner or employee is putting the transaction "on the books".

We have been using credit cards wherever and whenever they are allowed - thanks to credit card points, we brought the grandkids to Disney and we get the bulk of our Christmas gifts. I figure the cost of credit cards is already built in to the prices merchants charge. That said, if the discount for cash is a better deal than credit card points, then we'll be switching back to cash.

18 posted on 01/27/2013 8:18:46 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Uncle Chip

“Land of the free and the home of the brave” is now certainly Land of the fee and the home of the slave.


19 posted on 01/27/2013 8:19:45 AM PST by Student0165
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To: Uncle Chip

I pay most of my bills with a CC because I get the 1% back [it adds up over time] and I pay off the balance each month.

Several months ago, I noticed when getting ready to pay my gas company (heating) bill that they assessed a ‘processing’ fee for CC transactions now. I reverted to the automatic bank withdrawal I had on file, as it does not (so far) have a ‘processing’ fee. It isn’t the amount of the fee; it is the principal—they already assess fees for:

Customer Charge,
Delivery Charge,
Energy Efficiency Cost Recovery,
Weather Normalization Adjustment,
Franchise Fee
and City, County, and State taxes

in addition to the Cost of Gas Charge.

All of those add-on fees are about equal to the the Cost of Gas Charge amount.

They are as bad as the phone companies (which are losting customers in masses) and cable companies with all their price increases and add-on fees.


20 posted on 01/27/2013 8:20:52 AM PST by TomGuy
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