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Obama suggests Republicans unwilling to compromise in gun control debate
Fox News via Associated Press (AP) ^ | January 27, 2013

Posted on 01/27/2013 9:25:05 AM PST by Kaslin

President Obama is suggesting that House Republicans on the issue of gun control appear neither willing to work with him nor listen to the American public on the issue.

“The House Republican majority is made up mostly of members who are in sharply gerrymandered districts that are very safely Republican and may not feel compelled to pay attention to broad-based public opinion, because what they're really concerned about is the opinions of their specific Republican constituencies,” the president said in an interview with The New Republic.

Obama also said he can get 50 percent of public support for many of his upcoming initiatives, but “I can't get enough votes out of the House of Representatives to actually get something passed. … I think there is still shock on the part of some in the party that I won re-election.”

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KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; gungrab; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/27/2013 9:25:09 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This one is! :)


2 posted on 01/27/2013 9:25:56 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Kaslin

So the Tyrant understands that the AMERICAN people don’t want the 2nd Amendment trampled on - and the House Republicans are doing what they were voted into office for...


3 posted on 01/27/2013 9:27:05 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Kaslin

Never compromise with tyrants.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 9:27:33 AM PST by pallis
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To: Kaslin

Good!!!


5 posted on 01/27/2013 9:28:50 AM PST by MNGal
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To: Kaslin

Uh - he doesn’t get it. It’s not about the Republicans. It is the “American” people who do not want their constitutional rights trampled on. I can’t take much more of this POS.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 9:29:27 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Kaslin
Obama is suggesting that House Republicans on the issue of gun control appear neither willing to work with him nor listen to the American public on the issue.

Correct.
No compromise.
No more gun laws.
And they are listening to the American public!

7 posted on 01/27/2013 9:29:31 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: Kaslin

Bump!


8 posted on 01/27/2013 9:30:07 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Kaslin

Well, he’s half right.


9 posted on 01/27/2013 9:32:59 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Kaslin

No flies on this guy.

Oh, wait ...


10 posted on 01/27/2013 9:33:37 AM PST by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Kaslin

Republicans had BETTER be unwilling to compromise!


11 posted on 01/27/2013 9:35:03 AM PST by Obadiah (We must commit to remove every Senate Blue-dog Democrat from office in 2014!)
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To: Kaslin

Are we the same American public he’s referring to that he didn’t listen to when we said “NO” to Obamacare?

FUBO!!


12 posted on 01/27/2013 9:35:56 AM PST by Kevin in California
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To: grobdriver

How about he compromise. Contrary to what he believes, he’s not king or emperor


13 posted on 01/27/2013 9:37:01 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

“unwilling to compromise”

Zero is finally on point with an issue. You’re dam right we aren’t, you PO(tU)S!


14 posted on 01/27/2013 9:37:21 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, and you were just the model of “compromise” your first two years when you tried to shove every piece of legislation down our throats without a single Republican vote, weren’t you?...


15 posted on 01/27/2013 9:39:20 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe it has something to do with the Constitution?


16 posted on 01/27/2013 9:39:33 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Kaslin

Crap. That’s how he started with the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff. Should we start a count-down until Boehner capitulates?


17 posted on 01/27/2013 9:41:56 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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To: mosaicwolf

Too old. Was written by a bunch of slave-owning white guys in powdered wigs.


18 posted on 01/27/2013 9:42:04 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Kaslin
The House is actually called: The House of Representatives because the members are elected to represent their constituents' interests.

This is the way our government works. I expect that this was skipped in civics classes in Kenya and Indonesia, so our foreign president does not understand the concept. Send him home!

19 posted on 01/27/2013 9:42:14 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Kaslin

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED


20 posted on 01/27/2013 9:42:14 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Kaslin
The House is actually called: The House of Representatives because the members are elected to represent their constituents' interests.

This is the way our government works. I expect that this was skipped in civics classes in Kenya and Indonesia, so our foreign president does not understand the concept. Send him home!

21 posted on 01/27/2013 9:42:32 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Kaslin

Remember the Hippy chant, “Power to the people!”? This time the radicals have more voices than before. The plan seems to be to make criminals out of those who refuse to comply. Accompanying that, they will marginalize the remaining Republicans who block them in Congress. Obama and his crew won’t wait until 2014 to take power through the electoral process. They are in a hurry.


22 posted on 01/27/2013 9:42:32 AM PST by JimSEA ( “what difference does it make?”)
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To: Kaslin

Zero said he wouldn’t compromise on the “fiscal cliff”/debt ceiling, why should Repubs compromise? The “media” will never get that.....


23 posted on 01/27/2013 9:44:20 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kaslin

He needs to check out the votes he would get in his Democrat Senate.


24 posted on 01/27/2013 9:44:24 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Kaslin

That is the nature of a RIGHT, is it not? Merely asking for a photo identification was considered too intrusive to one’s right to vote by the Leftists. They holler like stuck pigs at any sort of infringements on the made up right to abort/choice. Use their arguments against them. These people so concerned about the children in CT. didn’t seem at all upset about the children in Mexico who were mowed down with Fast and Furious guns. Why? Is it because those were little “brown” children? Are they racists? etc.


25 posted on 01/27/2013 9:44:37 AM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Kaslin
The House Democrat minority is made up mostly of members who are in sharply gerrymandered districts that are very safely Democrat, including the majority-minority districts that were MANDATED by the courts and HIS DOJ!

This is the standard Obama response to failure -- it's always the EVIL REPUBLICANS' fault!

26 posted on 01/27/2013 9:46:37 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Kaslin

IMO what he means is he can’t rule his way with the pesky Constitution in the way.


27 posted on 01/27/2013 9:47:49 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Kaslin

Good! NO COMPROMISE ON OUR RIGHTS! I don’t trust hussein and his ilk any further than I can spit.


28 posted on 01/27/2013 9:49:15 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: tumblindice

There is nothing to compromise on, the amendment
is clear, The RIGHT of the people to keep and BEAR
arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

Any attempt to do so is unacceptable, and a
reputiation of the Oath they took to serve.


29 posted on 01/27/2013 9:49:31 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

And a half-wit.


30 posted on 01/27/2013 9:50:21 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Kaslin

My sole U.S. Rep and two Senators (one a puking, lying rat who ran to the right of the John Birch Society to get elected) were not elected to compromise. They were not elected to represent any intrests but those of the people who elected them.


31 posted on 01/27/2013 9:50:34 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Kaslin

Good for them! Lets hope their spines hold.


32 posted on 01/27/2013 9:53:13 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Kaslin
" . . . because what they're really concerned about is the opinions of their specific Republican constituencies . . ."

That's called politics and representing your constituency, Mr President. It's like being a community organizer, only it's legal.

33 posted on 01/27/2013 9:53:19 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: CurlyDave

That is correct. The House of Representatives is one of two Houses in Congress. The other one is the Senate


34 posted on 01/27/2013 9:53:25 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

No comprise. No infringement.


35 posted on 01/27/2013 9:56:48 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Kaslin

No discussion, no compromise, no surrender, no compliance, and if it gets that far, no prisoners.


36 posted on 01/27/2013 10:00:07 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Kaslin

Good, FUBO


37 posted on 01/27/2013 10:01:04 AM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: Kaslin
Suggests ???

What a maroon

What part of GFY doesn't he understand ?

38 posted on 01/27/2013 10:01:24 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kaslin

Its not just the House of Representatives he has to worry about, it must stand the test in the Supreme Court...oh, Wait.


39 posted on 01/27/2013 10:01:35 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

When does Obama compromise?


40 posted on 01/27/2013 10:02:05 AM PST by FreedBird
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To: Kaslin
Oh Hussein, do you mean like when you told your constituency in an ad "I got your back"? At least the congressmen have constituencies, that's the way it works-you were supposed to be president of all Americans. Though you and your "Just-Us" dept have made it clear that that's not the way you work.
41 posted on 01/27/2013 10:02:54 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
He needs to check out the votes he would get in his Democrat Senate.

It's his main strategy to blame Republicans for his failure as a Leader.

And the media will gladly parrot his lies. Just saw another newspaper article yesterday on the Debt. They specifically, and flat out blamed the TEA Party for the downgrade in the US credit rating because they held out so long.

42 posted on 01/27/2013 10:03:04 AM PST by digger48
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To: Kaslin

ANY compromise with Obama and his filthy democrats is treason, period.


43 posted on 01/27/2013 10:03:28 AM PST by Gator113 (Leave my guns alone and REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS!!)
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To: Anima Mundi
That is the nature of a RIGHT, is it not? Merely asking for a photo identification was considered too intrusive to one’s right to vote by the Leftists.

Hey, that's it! I think you've hit it square. Tie this "registration" to voter ID! Now if only we could get the brain-dead Repubs to understand how this works!

44 posted on 01/27/2013 10:10:43 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kaslin
How about he compromise

"shall not be infringed".....How do you compromise that phrase?

Compromise has another definition:
2. : a concession to something derogatory or prejudicial
for instance a compromise of principles

I believe that is the "compromise" that Obama is seeking.

45 posted on 01/27/2013 10:13:31 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Kaslin
President Obama is suggesting that House Republicans on the issue of gun control appear neither willing to work with him nor listen to the American public on the issue.

Would this be the same Amrican public that is out buying guns and ammo as fast as they can be produced?

46 posted on 01/27/2013 10:15:20 AM PST by umgud
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To: Kaslin

There is no such thing a little compromise of freedom, there is only capitulation. Giving up a little freedom is like being a little bit pregnant.


47 posted on 01/27/2013 10:15:53 AM PST by Eva
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To: Kaslin
They're retreating but they'll be back attacking from a different direction eventually. We need to punish them in the midterms to really set their agenda back but, even then, we aren't out of the woods.


48 posted on 01/27/2013 10:22:01 AM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Kaslin

Please allow me to indulge myself, as I parse-out this article


“President Obama is suggesting that House Republicans on the issue of gun control appear neither willing to work with him nor listen to the American public on the issue.”

This president has NEVER been interested in the opinions of Republicans, so why should Republicans believe him this time. They know it’s a trap and they know that if the president can separate them from their pro-gun voters, the Republican Party ends that day (at least with Amnesty, it will take a decade or two before the demographics wipe out conservatism). As to the American public, I think there are enough differing polls around so that everyone can make the claim that they are listening. And one other thing, the Republicans in the Congress were NOT elected to listen to the “American public”, they were elected to listen to their own districts, many of which are VERY CLEAR as to which side of this issue they support.

““The House Republican majority is made up mostly of members who are in sharply gerrymandered districts that are very safely Republican and may not feel compelled to pay attention to broad-based public opinion, because what they’re really concerned about is the opinions of their specific Republican constituencies,” the president said in an interview with The New Republic.”

Yes, much of the Republican majority is in “safe districts”, and much of that is due to the 1964 Civil Rights Act that packed blacks into highly concentrated districts so that blacks would get elected to Congress. If there president wants to open up that issue, he is more than welcome to, but he better be ready for really LOUD yelling, at it won’t be from our side.

“Obama also said he can get 50 percent of public support for many of his upcoming initiatives, but “I can’t get enough votes out of the House of Representatives to actually get something passed.”

Easy solution. Pass a Constitutional Amendment that allows a direct public vote on issue, like Switzerland does. Of course passing such an amendment won’t be easy, and other issues, like Health Care and Welfare Spending, might also be put up for a public vote. But, for now, you are STUCK with our system, like it or not. You are a Constitutional Scholar, you should know and accept the rules by now.

“… I think there is still shock on the part of some in the party that I won re-election.””

It’s probably best for me not to comment when the president plays the race card, so I won’t comment here.

“The president said he has a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that date back for generations.”

So do most Americans. But most Americans also have a “profound respect” for the Constitution. Note how he omits ANY MENTION of that little detail in these discussions. It is not an accident.

“He said that moving forward on the topic means understanding that the realities of guns in urban areas are very different from the realities of guns in rural areas.”

Then I suggest that you try to apply the lessons from rural areas to urban areas. This would include cracking down on corruption and cronyism and having a court system that is colorblind, rather than having judges (as in New Orleans) simply state that they will not put people of a certain race behind bars, regardless of the crime. Please Mr. President, crime is not a major problem, once you get out of the cities - so how about you try to learn from us, for once.

“He said it’s understandable that people are protective of their family traditions when it comes to hunting so “gun-control advocates also need to do “a little more listening than they do sometimes” in the debate.”

The hunting part is a crock, but he’s signalling to EVERYONE that Feinstein’s Gun Grab is DOA. Because if it had a chance, he would NEVER say anything about telling his side that they have to calm down. Never. This is GREAT NEWS for us. It’s game over on her gun grab, but bad things can still happen.

“Obama also said one of the biggest factors in the gun-control debate will be how it is shaped by the media.”

That is a message to “get on board” and stop allowing this to be a fair debate. The media should not be SHAPING anything in the news, they should be reporting on it, and giving both sides. Asking them to SHAPE the news sounds an awful lot like Fascism. By the way, what he means here is that the media keeps reporting on things that don’t help him, like the legal use of guns in self-defense (at least at the local level), and the problems that Senate Democrats are having in supporting the gun grab. He wants the media to ignore all that and put the heat on Republicans in whatever ways are possible. But there is only so much power that the media has with Republicans, as no doubt, virtually every Republican that votes for a gun grab will find himself up against a VERY WELL-FUNDED Primary opponent in 2014 (or whenever).

““If a Republican member of Congress is not punished on Fox News or by Rush Limbaugh for working with a Democrat on a bill of common interest, then you’ll see more of them doing it,” he said.”

No, it won’t be Fox or Rush that “punishes” a Republican member of Congress for supporting a gun grab, it will be his constituents in the next Primary (i.e., the little problem we have in this country called ‘elections’), and those office holders know it. Rush can yell all he wants, but it’s not as easy as the president may want it to be. And by the way, there are probably TWO DOZEN or so DEMOCRATS in the House that are in exactly the same position as the Republicans, except they lose their seat in November, if they vote for a gun grab - and they know it. But you’ll never anything about them for two reasons...first, there is no way AT ALL they will vote for a gun grab, they didn’t vote for it in 1994 and they won’t in 2013, and second, it doesn’t fit the Fox/Rush template of being the problem.

““I think John Boehner genuinely wanted to get a deal done, but it was hard to do in part because his caucus is more conservative probably than most Republican leaders are, and partly because he is vulnerable to attack for compromising Republican principles and working with Obama.””

All of the above is probably true. You get into leadership through seniority, which means being there a long time. Being in DC a long time almost always leads to compromises and moderation. So, yes, that is the case, which is why we need some fresh blood there, and also why the president is wasting his time talking to Boener.

“The president argued that “the more left-leaning media outlets recognize that compromise is not a dirty word” and that party leaders, including Senate Majority Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, are “willing to buck the more absolutist-wing elements in our party to try to get stuff done.””

Again - this is the FIRST issue that I’ve seen him go after Democrats on, and so it is very interesting. It seems like their base is hell-bent on all or nothing. They either get their serious gun-grab or nothing passes. And it’s hard to blame them, because the middle ground is simply not somewhere where they want to be - which is being blamed for what might be minor gun control moves, but not winning the big prize. And they know, for lots of them, gun control can easily drive them from office, just as it did in 1994 and just as Obamacare did in 2010 - but to many, that’s ok, if the accomplishment is big enough (like Obamacare...in 1994 they had no clue what they were in for). So they are not going to take chump change to give up their seats - either they win the whole prize, or nothing.

“Has Obama himself ever fired a gun? Yes, he says, he and others shoot skeet frequently at the president’s Maryland retreat, Camp David.”

Scare the crap out of the migratory birds up there, why don’t you. This level of sheer disrespect towards the animal kingdom simply CANNOT BE TOLERATED.

“The president also said much of the challenge in Washington is to make Americans feel that national politics is indeed connected to their day-to-day realities.”

You can say what you want, but that DEFINITELY is not the case with your party. Day-to-day realities say that when you are in debt you CUT SPENDING, and the entire Democrat playbook is to spend more and more, I guess with the knowledge that the country will go broke. So they could start by telling the public this.

““And that’s not an unjustifiable view,” he said. So everything we do combines both a legislative strategy with a broad-based communications and outreach strategy to get people engaged and involved, so that it’s not Washington over here and the rest of America over there.””

No, you DO NOT WANT that. The last thing you want are people engaged - that’s one of the main reasons you just took education away from the states (i.e., Common Core Curricula). Also, your party has virtually ended Congressional town halls with your own constituents. The list goes on and on - you ONLY want engagement when it suits your agenda.


That was fun.


49 posted on 01/27/2013 10:23:02 AM PST by BobL
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To: Kaslin
Congress is neither tasked with nor should they be willing to 'work with' the president on any issue. The president presents proposals to Congress at which time, their rules and responsibilities are engaged. It's called separation of powers and the rule of law. It's the way things are done here.

Obama can go p!$$ up a rope and complain to someone who gives a crap about whether he gets his way or not. He can posture and pontificate all he wants but at his earliest convenience he needs to step off and let We The People and our duly elected representatives (as hollow as that sounds today) get to work on what is best for We The People.

What an arrogant ass.

50 posted on 01/27/2013 10:24:36 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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