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1 posted on 01/27/2013 12:57:54 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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The Messiah doesn’t understand. If he did much more he would soon be doing nothing


2 posted on 01/27/2013 1:00:42 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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This is annoying me, so I’ll copy over what I posted an hour ago on another thread (it pretty much decodes the president’s language)...


Please allow me to indulge myself, as I parse-out this article

“President Obama is suggesting that House Republicans on the issue of gun control appear neither willing to work with him nor listen to the American public on the issue.”

This president has NEVER been interested in the opinions of Republicans, so why should Republicans believe him this time. They know it’s a trap and they know that if the president can separate them from their pro-gun voters, the Republican Party ends that day (at least with Amnesty, it will take a decade or two before the demographics wipe out conservatism). As to the American public, I think there are enough differing polls around so that everyone can make the claim that they are listening. And one other thing, the Republicans in the Congress were NOT elected to listen to the “American public”, they were elected to listen to their own districts, many of which are VERY CLEAR as to which side of this issue they support.

““The House Republican majority is made up mostly of members who are in sharply gerrymandered districts that are very safely Republican and may not feel compelled to pay attention to broad-based public opinion, because what they’re really concerned about is the opinions of their specific Republican constituencies,” the president said in an interview with The New Republic.”

Yes, much of the Republican majority is in “safe districts”, and much of that is due to the 1964 Civil Rights Act that packed blacks into highly concentrated districts so that blacks would get elected to Congress. If there president wants to open up that issue, he is more than welcome to, but he better be ready for really LOUD yelling, at it won’t be from our side.

“Obama also said he can get 50 percent of public support for many of his upcoming initiatives, but “I can’t get enough votes out of the House of Representatives to actually get something passed.”

Easy solution. Pass a Constitutional Amendment that allows a direct public vote on issue, like Switzerland does. Of course passing such an amendment won’t be easy, and other issues, like Health Care and Welfare Spending, might also be put up for a public vote. But, for now, you are STUCK with our system, like it or not. You are a Constitutional Scholar, you should know and accept the rules by now.

“… I think there is still shock on the part of some in the party that I won re-election.””

It’s probably best for me not to comment when the president plays the race card, so I won’t comment here.

“The president said he has a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that date back for generations.”

So do most Americans. But most Americans also have a “profound respect” for the Constitution. Note how he omits ANY MENTION of that little detail in these discussions. It is not an accident.

“He said that moving forward on the topic means understanding that the realities of guns in urban areas are very different from the realities of guns in rural areas.”

Then I suggest that you try to apply the lessons from rural areas to urban areas. This would include cracking down on corruption and cronyism and having a court system that is colorblind, rather than having judges (as in New Orleans) simply state that they will not put people of a certain race behind bars, regardless of the crime. Please Mr. President, crime is not a major problem, once you get out of the cities - so how about you try to learn from us, for once.

“He said it’s understandable that people are protective of their family traditions when it comes to hunting so “gun-control advocates also need to do “a little more listening than they do sometimes” in the debate.”

The hunting part is a crock, but he’s signalling to EVERYONE that Feinstein’s Gun Grab is DOA. Because if it had a chance, he would NEVER say anything about telling his side that they have to calm down. Never. This is GREAT NEWS for us. It’s game over on her gun grab, but bad things can still happen.

“Obama also said one of the biggest factors in the gun-control debate will be how it is shaped by the media.”

That is a message to “get on board” and stop allowing this to be a fair debate. The media should not be SHAPING anything in the news, they should be reporting on it, and giving both sides. Asking them to SHAPE the news sounds an awful lot like Fascism. By the way, what he means here is that the media keeps reporting on things that don’t help him, like the legal use of guns in self-defense (at least at the local level), and the problems that Senate Democrats are having in supporting the gun grab. He wants the media to ignore all that and put the heat on Republicans in whatever ways are possible. But there is only so much power that the media has with Republicans, as no doubt, virtually every Republican that votes for a gun grab will find himself up against a VERY WELL-FUNDED Primary opponent in 2014 (or whenever).

““If a Republican member of Congress is not punished on Fox News or by Rush Limbaugh for working with a Democrat on a bill of common interest, then you’ll see more of them doing it,” he said.”

No, it won’t be Fox or Rush that “punishes” a Republican member of Congress for supporting a gun grab, it will be his constituents in the next Primary (i.e., the little problem we have in this country called ‘elections’), and those office holders know it. Rush can yell all he wants, but it’s not as easy as the president may want it to be. And by the way, there are probably TWO DOZEN or so DEMOCRATS in the House that are in exactly the same position as the Republicans, except they lose their seat in November, if they vote for a gun grab - and they know it. But you’ll never anything about them for two reasons...first, there is no way AT ALL they will vote for a gun grab, they didn’t vote for it in 1994 and they won’t in 2013, and second, it doesn’t fit the Fox/Rush template of being the problem.

““I think John Boehner genuinely wanted to get a deal done, but it was hard to do in part because his caucus is more conservative probably than most Republican leaders are, and partly because he is vulnerable to attack for compromising Republican principles and working with Obama.””

All of the above is probably true. You get into leadership through seniority, which means being there a long time. Being in DC a long time almost always leads to compromises and moderation. So, yes, that is the case, which is why we need some fresh blood there, and also why the president is wasting his time talking to Boener.

“The president argued that “the more left-leaning media outlets recognize that compromise is not a dirty word” and that party leaders, including Senate Majority Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, are “willing to buck the more absolutist-wing elements in our party to try to get stuff done.””

Again - this is the FIRST issue that I’ve seen him go after Democrats on, and so it is very interesting. It seems like their base is hell-bent on all or nothing. They either get their serious gun-grab or nothing passes. And it’s hard to blame them, because the middle ground is simply not somewhere where they want to be - which is being blamed for what might be minor gun control moves, but not winning the big prize. And they know, for lots of them, gun control can easily drive them from office, just as it did in 1994 and just as Obamacare did in 2010 - but to many, that’s ok, if the accomplishment is big enough (like Obamacare...in 1994 they had no clue what they were in for). So they are not going to take chump change to give up their seats - either they win the whole prize, or nothing.

“Has Obama himself ever fired a gun? Yes, he says, he and others shoot skeet frequently at the president’s Maryland retreat, Camp David.”

Scare the crap out of the migratory birds up there, why don’t you. This level of sheer disrespect towards the animal kingdom simply CANNOT BE TOLERATED.

“The president also said much of the challenge in Washington is to make Americans feel that national politics is indeed connected to their day-to-day realities.”

You can say what you want, but that DEFINITELY is not the case with your party. Day-to-day realities say that when you are in debt you CUT SPENDING, and the entire Democrat playbook is to spend more and more, I guess with the knowledge that the country will go broke. So they could start by telling the public this.

““And that’s not an unjustifiable view,” he said. So everything we do combines both a legislative strategy with a broad-based communications and outreach strategy to get people engaged and involved, so that it’s not Washington over here and the rest of America over there.””

No, you DO NOT WANT that. The last thing you want are people engaged - that’s one of the main reasons you just took education away from the states (i.e., Common Core Curricula). Also, your party has virtually ended Congressional town halls with your own constituents. The list goes on and on - you ONLY want engagement when it suits your agenda.

That was fun.


3 posted on 01/27/2013 1:01:10 PM PST by BobL
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Translation: I'd get much more done if there was no opposition and everybody just do what I say.

4 posted on 01/27/2013 1:02:41 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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5 posted on 01/27/2013 1:02:56 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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What an idiot. He doesn’t see the BILLIONS of dollars we are spending on firearms and preparations for his attacks. He doesn’t see US as the deciding factor; he sees boogiemen like Fox and Rush. Typical out of touch liberal.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 1:03:01 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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He always blames someone. Never his fault.

Meanwhile living rent free in obamas brain....Rush Limbaugh.


7 posted on 01/27/2013 1:08:00 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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How dare the opposition be allowed to oppose him!! How dare they!! There ought to be a law!

//sarc


8 posted on 01/27/2013 1:08:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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9 posted on 01/27/2013 1:09:33 PM PST by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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There is too much “congeniality” in Congress. They ought to automatically rotate out every three years with no repeat terms. There are many smarter, more practical Americans who would serve and actually get something done if they did not feel it was a total waste of their time to have to play the archaic D. C. games.

Oh...and NO LOBBYISTS allowed. Any attempt at securing favors by giving campaign funds would be considered bribery and would be punishable with mandatory prison sentences.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 1:10:59 PM PST by txrefugee
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The great unifier is at it again!


13 posted on 01/27/2013 1:12:20 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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This SOB cannot get through his noggin he was elected to a term of office, not annointed king, emperor, or czar. The only good thing about his getting reinstated on Jan 20 is there are now 7 less days left in his reign of terror.


15 posted on 01/27/2013 1:16:24 PM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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The Obama Doctrine -

Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you. Push. Complain about you.


16 posted on 01/27/2013 1:21:13 PM PST by servo1969
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If he wants to see a politician being punished just wait until the next election and watch the public punish any congressman or senator who votes for gun control. They will punish them by voting them out of office. Obama will be gone for good in a few years but these congress critters will still be wanting a job.

All of our president's anti American, anti second amendment ideas are not going to float in that cesspool. The will be flushed away just like the rest of the.......

Most of the senate and the house will not support political suicide and the vast majority of this gun banning irrational panic will go away again.

17 posted on 01/27/2013 1:24:05 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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“I’d get more done if it weren’t for the opposition of Churchill and FDR.”
- Adolf Hitler

Obama seems to have forgotten - if, in fact, he ever knew - that the United States is NOT a dictatorship.


19 posted on 01/27/2013 1:32:04 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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The Republicans are not punished by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. This is just another manipulation by the Excuse Maker for not moving a silly agenda forward to satisfy his
uninformed voter base.

The Republicans are only satisfying the people who put them in office by voting the way they do. I hope for the next four years they continue as they have been doing until we can get somebody reasonable in the White House, not a spoiled child type.


23 posted on 01/27/2013 1:44:50 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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Aparently FOX and Rush Limbaugh are among His Royal Majesty’s loyal opposition?

( Dream On!)

Too late Hussein!

We are on to your fascist ways, and so is the nation and The People.

We will destroy you Hussein, the gauntlet has been cast.


24 posted on 01/27/2013 1:51:54 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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26 posted on 01/27/2013 2:05:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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“I’d get more done if the Jews weren’t holding the country hostage” - A. Hitler, 1936.


28 posted on 01/27/2013 2:10:38 PM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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Preident Obama...every buck he doesn’t pass, he spends..


30 posted on 01/27/2013 2:26:42 PM PST by Fedupwithit (You gave him what he wanted. I gave him what he needed.)
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I, I, I, I, I, I, I,etc. It’s always about him.


31 posted on 01/27/2013 2:28:21 PM PST by Digger
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