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Proof the Left Wants All Guns Outlawed
American Thinker ^ | December 20, 2012 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 01/27/2013 10:50:29 PM PST by neverdem

It has been said that to identify a liar, look for contradiction, because it's hard keeping lies straight.

It's no revelation that leftists would like to effect gun confiscation (except for themselves and their bodyguards, of course), but they generally maintain plausible deniability so that the world's Dirty Harry Reids can convince the flyover-country bitter clingers that they believe in the Second Amendment. And they certainly do - the way the Devil believes in God. Nonetheless, leftists sometimes tip their hand, and such is the case with a recent New York Post editorial.

The paper posits the idea that the "application of modern military design to civilian firearms" has produced weapons so dangerous that the Second Amendment is rendered obsolete. Of course, the editors are referring to what are incorrectly called "assault weapons," such as the AR-15-type rifle Adam Lanza used to do his evil in Newtown. And they take, or at least imply, a position that low-information voters would consider reasonable: they don't propose to outlaw all guns, just those dreaded "assault weapons" (that aren't). These, the editors say, are so deadly that it's "[t]ime to get rid of them."

Now we come to where they betrayed themselves. When describing Lanza's arsenal earlier in the op-ed, they noted that he had his rifle and, as they put it, "two equally deadly handguns."

Well, well, if they're equally deadly, why pick on the AR-15? Some guns must be more equal than others.

If the "assault rifles" (that aren't) are too deadly to be....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; secondamendment; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus

1 posted on 01/27/2013 10:50:34 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

If guns become illegal in USA, then only country left in the world where ordinary citizens can buy guns will be Switzerland. I don’t think Switzerland can hold off takeover by UN, despots, dictators or tyrants all by themselves.

Abolishing 2nd Amendment will be end of freedom. I can’t think of anything worse happening with any other law.


2 posted on 01/27/2013 10:59:50 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12

The libturds already let the cat out of the bag ..
they did so in New York State - the full agenda was released.
All to get Cuomo in the front of the Demrat list for 2016.

He sold out the Constitution for an election ..
Go figure !


3 posted on 01/27/2013 11:10:48 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (To conquer a nation , first disarm it's citizens ~ Adolf Hitler)
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To: entropy12

“Abolishing 2nd Amendment will be end of freedom.”

Abolishing the 2nd Amendment cannot be done by Executive Order...not Obama’s nor by any other.

Abolishing the 2nd Amendment cannot be done by any act of Congress. All Gun Control Laws are a breach of the 2nd Amendment...they are all ‘infringments’.

It can only happen if WE THE PEOPLE let it happen.

I choose to keep my freedom.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 11:25:06 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Bump


5 posted on 01/27/2013 11:30:33 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Heck Obama himself is illegal unconstitutional! He is not a natural born citizen since his father was a Keyan citizen and a life long communist. No background check was done on Obama by the government. He appointed so many people unconstitutionally including NLRB members. He has already done tons of stuff with executive orders. I don’t put anything past this usurper. Be afraid, very afraid now that he is not worried about re-election. He is going to be more “flexible” as he told Putin’s right hand man.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 11:33:16 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: neverdem

The left is chipping away at the second amendment one compromise at a time. No more compromising. You SOBs can go compromise with each other in a bath house. We’ll be over here, sticking to our guns. No more compromising.


7 posted on 01/27/2013 11:38:24 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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If not having native born citizen in the White House is no big deal - how about we simply swap King Obama for Prince Harry - who seems to relish terminating Islamic terrorists in his Apache - while Obama plays golf - badly.

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8 posted on 01/27/2013 11:51:04 PM PST by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belushi ---- ----)
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To: neverdem
Proof the Left Wants All Guns Outlawed

??

Proof is needed?

9 posted on 01/28/2013 12:01:59 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: neverdem
The paper posits the idea that the "application of modern military design to civilian firearms" has produced weapons so dangerous that the Second Amendment is rendered obsolete.

Modern?

Semi-automatic firearm - Wikipedia

The first successful design for a semi-automatic rifle is attributed to German-born gunsmith Ferdinand Ritter von Mannlicher, who unveiled the design in 1885.

The first semi-automatic rifle adopted and widely issued by a major military power (France) was the Fusil Automatique Modele 1917.


10 posted on 01/28/2013 12:23:45 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: neverdem
It is so obvious.

When you run across one of these anti-gunners ask a couple of simple questions.

1. You make guns (or certain guns) illegal.
2. You tell their owners to turn them in (effectively taking the owners’ property worth hundreds or thousands of dollars for nothing).
3. The owners refuse.
4. How do you get those guns out of the hands of the owners?
5. Will you send in government agents to kill the resisters and take their property?
6. Will you inform on friends, neighbors, and family so that government agents can raid their homes, steal their property, and murder them?
7. Do you not think there will be blowback on the people who inform or support the theft, incarceration, and murder of their fellow Americans?
8. If you hate guns so much, why outsource to the government? Don't you have the guts to do your own ‘wet work’?

11 posted on 01/28/2013 2:42:44 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: neverdem
...such as the AR-15-type rifle Adam Lanza used to do his evil in Newtown.

No he didn't use an AR-15-type rifle.

12 posted on 01/28/2013 3:45:03 AM PST by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: MasterGunner01

The gungrabbers say it’s futile to resist government forces if they come to confiscate guns. But without gun registration, the only enabler for the confiscators will have to be swarms of informers. But if at that point the word gets out that to snitch is to die, then all bets are off. Again.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 4:12:05 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: CPOSharky
Article: - ...such as the AR-15-type rifle Adam Lanza used to do his evil in Newtown.

You say: - No he didn't use an AR-15-type rifle.

- I continue to read articles, almost every day, stating that, he did use the rifle.

I continue to read articles, almost every day, stating that, he did not use such a rifle.

Where is the truth? And prove it, one way or the other.

14 posted on 01/28/2013 4:12:05 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: neverdem
Proof The Left Wants All Guns Outlawed

Proof the left wants all guns outlawed except theirs is this quote from one of their Communist mentors, Mao Tse Tung:

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun."

15 posted on 01/28/2013 4:23:55 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: neverdem
Isn't "Lanza" an Italian name? New York's infamous Sullivan Law of 1903 was intended to keep hand guns out of the hands of the "inherently criminal" Italians that had recently migrated to New York. Passing another law based on the criminal actions of an Italian sure sounds like profiling to me, especially since it was recently done in New York by another Italian. The Just Us Department needs to step in and investigate this clear case of racial profiling.

For our FReepers of Italian extraction, the above screed was anti gun control, not anti Italian, so that you don't yell at me for something I didn't intend.

16 posted on 01/28/2013 4:24:26 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I agree with you completely, however, multiple Supreme Courts disagree with us. Being that the justices are members of the ruling class, selected & approved by same, there is no one to actually enforce the Constitution.

The Constitution is completely dependent on the people to elect representatives who have honor, integrity, & patriotism. This RARELY happens anymore. Why is anybody surprised that our elected perverts, crooks, & would be tyrants are ignoring the Constitution?


17 posted on 01/28/2013 5:07:14 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: CPOSharky

“No he didn’t use an AR-15-type rifle.”

Not this again... Early reports that he used the handguns were WRONG. This has been repeatedly debunked.


18 posted on 01/28/2013 5:50:39 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: neverdem

Obama To Top Brass: Will You Fire On American Citizens?
January 24, 2013 By Daniel Noe 3

The Obama administration is openly escalating its campaign against private gun ownership and shaking up the top ranks of the military command structure — but is it also preparing to make war on the American population?

VIDEO INTERVIEW:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-to-top-brass-will-you-fire-on-american-citizens/

Obama does skeet shooting “all the time”
Monday, January 28, 2013 5:10

Yeah, riiiiight.

Obama Discusses Gun Control, Tells The New Republic ‘We Do Skeet Shooting All The Time’

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Obama added to that perspective by admitting that he has fired a gun. “Up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time,” he said.

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“You buying this? I’m not. If he really did skeet shooting we would have seen a picture already as he loves tweeting pictures of himself. Apparently not even HuffPo SuperUsers are buying it either. Some of their comments:

Barackis… please sit down now…. you are a divider, not a uniter…
It would be nice if libs stopped making this about hunting….the original intent deals with tyranny and today you can add self defense.
He doesn’t know which end of the shotgun to hold.
DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO.
Obama still thinks this is some urban vs rural thing. That just goes to show how out of touch he is with gun culture.
Aw shucks, SEE..He’s just one of the guys!….This makes it all different now…
I love the hunting analogy from a constitutional scholar!

I tried to find out how many times Obama has been to Camp David and although I couldn’t find the exact amount, it has been quite substantially less times than Bush and dramatically less times than Obama has golfed.

Funny how after being president for four years we are just now hearing how he does skeeting shooting when he’s trying to implement strict gun control laws. What a coincidence…”

DCG

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/01/obama-does-skeet-shooting-all-the-time-2567534.html


19 posted on 01/28/2013 5:56:42 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Lancey Howard

The main idea is that they need to be called on their lies that they don’t want to outlaw all privately owned guns.

They hide behind this lie all the time.

Time to strip that veil away and expose them.

A leftist agenda exposed to the light of truth is a leftist agenda defeated.

Too much time is spent trying to argue with the left’s “surface” agenda and not their real agenda.


20 posted on 01/28/2013 5:56:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: neverdem
In the not too distant past, both England and Australia had terrible shootings like Sandy Hook. They allowed the government to use the hysteria to excuse their moves to restrict private gun ownership in the aftermath. Each nation quickly saw significant and long-term increases in numerous categories of violent crime. Guns make us safer, no matter how much the politicians and faint-hearted Liberals want to pretend otherwise.

WSJ article with details on those shooting

21 posted on 01/28/2013 6:05:09 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Graybeard58; CPOSharky
Where is the truth? And prove it, one way or the other.

There's no way to prove the facts of this incident (beyond the word of the M.E. and of the state police, both of which in highly-charged cases like this I would take with a large grain of salt), until the actual evidence and investigation paperwork is unsealed.

And that information is likely to remain sealed until this congressional session ends, don't you think?

22 posted on 01/28/2013 6:18:10 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: TigersEye
The first semi-automatic rifle adopted and widely issued by a major military power (France) was the Fusil Automatique Modele 1917.

Don't forget the execrable Chauchat, introduced in 1907, which was a "machine gun" that was actually an "automatic rifle". Americans sometimes called it the "Sho-sho".

It jammed frequently (failure to extract) and was a dirt magnet -- the dirt then jamming the spent round in the chamber => failure to extract. It weighed 22 lb and was a beeotch to fire and aim properly. Please don't take my Chauchat away! (barf!)

Chauchat automatic rifle.

It ranks right up there with the military flail as one of the poorest weapons ever issued to fighting men.

23 posted on 01/28/2013 7:36:04 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem

“Assault weapons” are scary looking so easy to demonize, and it really is just emotional manipulation.

If they ban “assault weapons” the next ADHD drugged mass shooting will be with Joe Biden’s shotgun model, probably be even more gruesome if 00Buckshot is used, and the next ban is under way. And on and on.

They know it but are not honest enough to admit they want to ban all guns. But being lying deceitful tragedy exploiting, civil right denying, gun grabbing traitor communist is something they will deny to the end, no matter how the facts prove otherwise.,


24 posted on 01/28/2013 7:36:20 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: neverdem

Ok make the police give them up first and see how that turns out.


25 posted on 01/28/2013 8:24:27 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: lentulusgracchus

Full auto is kind of a non-sequitur in regards to the modernity of semi-auto rifles such as the AR.


26 posted on 01/28/2013 2:09:09 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: neverdem

Bttt.


27 posted on 01/28/2013 3:22:00 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: entropy12
Obama is illegal because he is an admitted cocaine and marijuana abuser. He cannot be given a security clearance or own a firearm.
28 posted on 01/28/2013 6:40:21 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
He sold out the Constitution for an election ..
Go figure !

I figure it's par for the course for the modern Democrat.

29 posted on 01/29/2013 8:57:25 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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