Skip to comments.Rubio, Senate ‘Gang of Eight’ unveil bipartisan immigration deal (Amnesty, H-1B Visas DOUBLED!)
Posted on 01/28/2013 6:17:14 AM PST by jimbo123
A group of eight Democratic and Republicans senators, including Floridas Marco Rubio, will officially release a wide-ranging immigration plan Monday that could give a pathway to citizenship, tighten border security and increase guest-worker permits.
Most controversially, the proposal would give a pathway to residency and even citizenship to many of the estimated 11 million immigrants unlawfully in the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...
Conservatives love affair with Marco Rubio is about to encounter some rough sailing. As it should.
Whatever is done must NOT include a path to citizenship that includes the right to vote. There must be some penalty for illegal immigration in the first place and this also punishes any politician or party that viewed illegal immigrants as a future voting block.
Ok, let’s hear from the pandering dummies around here who want to nominate this first term RINO for President just because he’s Hispanic. How do you like him now?
The whole reason this bill exists is that both sides ‘think’ they will be getting these votes, so there’s no way it would include a ban on voting. One side is right; our side is wrong.
The only thing wrong with our present immigration laws is the fact they are not enforced.
I would like to see what Rubio has to say before I pass judgment. Taking the Miami Herald’s word as gospel is not a good idea. That paper will almost always skew coverage to delight liberals and enrage conservatives.
Doormat RINO/Socialist File.
What part of ‘illegal’ do these Senators and Representatives not understand?
They are putting out the same old canards: enforce border security, yada yada yada.
How did that work out in the previous amnesty bills? Answer: It didn’t, because they never bothered TO enforce the border security.
Rewarding illegal behavior - never a good idea!
If this passes, it marks the end of the “productive phase” of the US and the beginning of the “welfare phase”. Sadly, that’s no exaggeration.
I think that we should demand that any path to citizenship require self sufficiency meaning that one can not be receiving public assistance of any kind nor can their dependents as a condition for a citizenship appplication. Also for illegals there should be a penalty of 10 years before they can apply for citizenship. The bar should be set high so we do not continue to produce an alien voting block that is essentially slave labor and a ward of the state.
If and when Rubio comes around looking for my vote for President, he can kiss my fat behind. He's another liberal who has betrayed this nation.
We so desperately need a truly conservative third party.
This ought to help with the unemployment here.
They are all touting one poll which claimed Americans favored a “legal path”. Yet in all prior polls Americans favor deportation. The poll result is pure bull crap.
Making illegal immigrants into citizens is immoral and is national suicide.
And OBAMA is going to enforce the border?????
The illegals themselves, as citizens, will enforce the border?????
Why should any American respect any law after this?
“Bipartisan” implies two DIFFERENT parties.
...and you too can file for a tax return totaling $25,000 for your 16 nephews and nieces under your new worker permit, don't forget now, VOTE DEMOCRATIC, no one's going to know, and IF THEY DO, we have special "rights" we'll extend to our prospect citizens, DON'T WORRY,GET RICH off the American tax payer
Which of these three will never happen?
They will have a fight in the House.
It is NOT over, not even close.
Hispanics, if we ignore them, will become 95% Democrat voters, just like blacks. Democrats will destroy the Republic. This is simple demographic truth.
We need to address their needs or the Democrats will do so—and then the Democrats will use that electoral advantage to crush individual liberty.
This immigration bill may or may not be useful to that end, but the fact is that people will vote for people who “look like them”...and it sure as hell would help the conservative cause if we actively promoted men like Rubio and Cruz.
They may disappoint us once in a while, but their thinking will be much better than that of a Hitlery....
Overall, I am generally AGAINST promoting Senators to the Executive branch....we would do better to look at our bench of governors.
The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.
And yes these people will be allowed to vote once they complete their "earned path to citizenship." This country is finished. Amnesty just hastens the process. The Dems will be the permanent majority party if they are not already nationally.
“One of these articles even claims you do not have to be born on US soil like John McCain. “
A Senate 'Gang of Eight' that includes Republicans Marco Rubio, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Jeff Flake and Democrats Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Bob Menendez, and Michael Bennet have reportedly come to an agreement on a comprehensive immigration reform package that would include an amnesty for the nation's 11 million illegal aliens. An agreement between Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) and Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) is also being finalized in the House. CALL YOUR THREE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AT (202) 224-3121 AND TELL THEM "NO AMNESTY."
Tell your Three Members of Congress how ridiculous it is that Members of Congress are rushing on immigration reform just to stay ahead of Pres. Obama's announcement that's expected on Tuesday, Jan. 29. Also tell your Members that an amnesty is premature before E-Verify is mandated, an entry-exit system to track non-immigrant visa holders is complete, and chain migration and the visa lottery have been eliminated.
“Amnesty, H-1B Visas DOUBLED!”
Many many of the Indians that come in this way stay here. If/when they get citizenship they will vote for Obama types and Democrats same as the Hindus (Indians) already here
This is a formula for national suicide
that POS Jeff Flake is out...he lost last November
“This immigration bill may or may not be useful to that end, but the fact is that people will vote for people who look like them...and it sure as hell would help the conservative cause if we actively promoted men like Rubio and Cruz.”
These wetbacks have NO regard for the laws of our country. They are NOT moral, legal or hold any conservative values. Just like blacks, they will continue to vote for immoral, illegal activities that democrats are known for. Rubio and his ilk are just helping them to get there faster.
I hope the citizenship clause binds this up in the House. Simply put, the law should read that anyone presently here illegally or coming here illegally in the future will be ineligible for citizenship. They didn’t come here to be citizens. They came to work, game the system, put their kids in our schools, use our hospitals, steal our automobiles, join gangs, rape our women and children and kill people, pretty much the same thing Obama voters in the inner cities do, only adding the work. Change a path to citizenship to a path to legal residency as long as illegals can prove that they have worked and lived here for X amount of time without violating our other laws and abusing our welfare.
Rubio is a DREAM Act-er, too.
All those “Conservatives” who drool over him because he’s brown need their collective heads checked.....
What "needs" do they have that are more "needy" than American citizen?
You can demand all you want but there is no way that you will prevent all public assistance from going to them. They will receive food stamps and subsidies to enroll in Obamacare just for starters. Once their status is legalized, it will be extremely difficult legally to prevent them from being treated like all other people legally resident in this country.
Also for illegals there should be a penalty of 10 years before they can apply for citizenship. The bar should be set high so we do not continue to produce an alien voting block that is essentially slave labor and a ward of the state.
I doubt it will ever be ten years. And remember these are essentially the same kinds of people that comprise the 1.2 million LEGAL immigrants who enter annually. They have already changed this country's demographics forever. 87% of legal immigrants are minorities as defined by the USG.
How will their kids vote? You may want to ask Governor Jindal and Governor Haley.
I fear you're right, based on the few votes they've had thus far. While the Dems may not have won a "majority"... it seems they have won "functional control" of the House. Meaning, they've got enough votes now to combine with squishy RINO's to enact a bunch of legislation that most of us are going to HATE.
The next two years are going to be ROUGH!
Ryan has already signed on to the Rubio deal. The fix is in. Boehner didn’t appoint Steve King as chairman the House sub-committee on immigration. That was my first clue that there will be a coalition of some Reps and all the Dems to pass this amnesty. This country is finished.
Where are the nice people were pimping Rubio as the next conservative savior, and what do they have to say about this, I wonder?
This however is no surprise. He made noises about this all along. I don’t see this as a betrayal but rather as doing what he’s hinted at all along.
This is why i never approved of him at all.
Doubling H-1b visas in an economic recession/depression is treasonous.
The big question: WHO will be the 18 House RINOS to vote with the 200 House RATS to pass this Amnesty bill?
Its no surprise to me, either, and I’m hoping many conservatives will now stop crowing about Rubio as if he’s one of them. He’s not.
Game, set, match against America.
Yep. 4 republican democrats and 4 democrats.
Good cop/bad cop. Both parties want the same thing - power for themselves, wealth for themselves, and a luxurious tax payer paid lifestyle for themselves. (The republicans just work a little slower hoping no one notices)
The new Washington motto: "A government of the government, by the government, and for the government."
So, how do we “address their needs” without acting like Democrats, eh?
I don't hear anyone concerned about closing the damn gate as part of their deal.
The first act of an enlightened being is to call things by their correct names. It helps one to see reality.
(If the government is here to protect us, then why are so many people afraid of it?)