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U.S. military spy drone can see what type of phone you're carrying from 17,500ft
Daily Mail ^ | 28 January 2013 | DAMIEN GAYLE

Posted on 01/28/2013 10:12:04 PM PST by expat1000

A sinister airborne surveillance camera gives the U.S. military the ability to track movements in an entire city like a real-time Google Street View.

The ARGUS-IS array can be mounted on unmanned drones to capture an area of 15 sq/miles in an incredible 1,800MP - that's 225 times more sensitive than an iPhone camera.

From 17,500ft the remarkable surveillance system can capture objects as small as 6in on the ground and allows commanders to track movements across an entire battlefield in real time.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 666; argus; drones
Full Title: The incredible U.S. military spy drone that's so powerful it can see what type of phone you're carrying from 17,500ft
1 posted on 01/28/2013 10:12:12 PM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

That tremendous level of detail makes it sensitive enough to not only track people moving around on the ground thousands of feet below, but even to see what they are doing or carrying. The ARGUS array sends its live feed to the ground where it connects to a touch-screen command room interface. Using this, operators can zoom in to any area within the camera's field of view, with up to 65 zoom windows open at once. Each video window is electronically steerable independent of the others, and can either provide continuous imagery of a fixed area on the ground or be designated to automatically keep a specified target in the window.

2 posted on 01/28/2013 10:16:28 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Travis McGee

ping


3 posted on 01/28/2013 10:17:04 PM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

30,000 drones roughs out to a 10sq mi grid over the 48, well within the capabilities reported for this drone.

Land of the free is becoming a giant open air super max.


4 posted on 01/28/2013 10:19:00 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: expat1000

they can probably tell the date on a dime


5 posted on 01/28/2013 10:20:31 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: expat1000

Remember folks... the guy doing this can be in North Dakota and the Cell Phone he is looking at can be in Iran.

Cool stuff ... much better than Dick Tracy, but I heard Apple may be coming out with a Dick Tracy Watch

TT


6 posted on 01/28/2013 10:22:06 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: expat1000; MestaMachine; SunkenCiv; LucyT

More detail on ARGUS:

“The system automatically tracks any moving object it can see, including both vehicles and individuals on foot, highlighting them with coloured boxes so they can be easily identified.

“It also records everything, storing an approximate million terabytes of data a day - the equivalent of 5,000 hours of high-definition video footage.

“’So you can go back and say I’d like to see what happened at this particular location three days, two hours [and] four minutes ago, and it will actually show you what happened as if you were watching it live,’ said Mr Antoniades.”


7 posted on 01/28/2013 10:22:49 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: TexasTransplant

And the guy controlling the drone could be in Iran and you are in North Dakota.

Think hackers.Think about the U.S. drone the Iranians already got. Think about our terrorist-in-chief occupying the White House.
Think about having absolutely no privacy from the government. Think it still sounds wonderful?


8 posted on 01/28/2013 10:26:11 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: expat1000

My recent post on ARGUS:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2981309/posts

“Here is the FR thread on the NOVA program, which was very informative. The Predator drone’s inventor is interviewed and the Predator insides are extensively revealed in addition to demonstration of the ARGUS system.

“Rise of the Drones (PBS NOVA Wed Jan 23 9PM EST)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980837/posts

2 posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:07:28 AM by Seizethecarp


9 posted on 01/28/2013 10:26:53 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: hoosierham

17,500ft. Too high. Maybe HERF could get it.

Better yet don’t deploy 30,000 drones over US.


10 posted on 01/28/2013 10:28:42 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Seizethecarp; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; KC_Lion; Godzilla; Domestic Church; ...

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.... U.S. military spy drone can see what type of phone you’re carrying from 17,500ft ....

Article and # 7.

Thanks, Seizethecarp.


11 posted on 01/28/2013 10:29:29 PM PST by LucyT (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: expat1000

I’ve read they also have cameras that can now identify every individual in a crowd individually.


12 posted on 01/28/2013 10:29:58 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: hoosierham

(My comment on NOVA demo):

You will note that the ARGUS demonstration was made over Quantico VA, just down the Potomac River from Wash DC and right over the Marine Corps base, so ARGUS is already in US airspace as of this 2011 demonstration and probably earlier.

I strongly expect that the inauguration this week was covered by an ARGUS drone (maybe several)...and some armed Predator drones as well that would have been piloted by a dedicated Secret Service detail. This is “merely” an extension of the sniper protection of the POTUS to a third dimension. I also expect that POTUS has Predator and ARGUS coverage in place for all US appearances around the US and probably in many foreign appearances as well.

This same logic that I suspect has already brought armed drones into US airspace will inevitably bring armed drones to local law enforcement as part of SWAT teams.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 10:31:21 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Ray76

How does one zero in a scope for 10,000 ft?


14 posted on 01/28/2013 10:32:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: expat1000

Can you hear me now???


15 posted on 01/28/2013 10:33:28 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: TexasTransplant

>>Remember folks... the guy doing this can be in North Dakota and the Cell Phone he is looking at can be in Iran.

Well, yeah. Hopefully it will be Iran, not Kentucky or Texas, for example.


16 posted on 01/28/2013 10:35:00 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Seizethecarp

Thanks. I thought details had probably been posted under another title, but what the heck...


17 posted on 01/28/2013 10:37:05 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Ray76

***** “Land of the free is becoming a giant open air super max” *****

Not gonna happen... the operators, the support ... all local ... ain’t cheap either

If it gets to the point that you are worried about we have already decreased our population by 50% those that could give the orders to turn these loose on us... their attrition rate may be a bit higher.

I Trust my fellow Soldiers, Sailors, Marines. (You Coasties need to step up, starting to worry bout you guys turning into the Maritime version of BATF)

I Trust my Sheriff

I (WE) in my town can (if we need to) replace our Mayor and City Council that give the marching orders to LE

TT


18 posted on 01/28/2013 10:37:20 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: Paladin2

Dunno. HERF might disable electronics. Trace a grid across the sky. Maybe get lucky.

This is the stuff they tell us about and it’s unbelievably powerful. The fed. govt plans on deploying 30,000 drones. I don’t know that they are all this powerful... yet.

Surveillance of this magnitude is an incredibly aggressive act. No humans should have this power over others save in war.


19 posted on 01/28/2013 10:38:29 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Ray76
Having worked with "dynamic situational", near surveillance real time control systems prior to my (premature) retirement, I find the "Machine" described in the TV show "POI" to be only a few years away from possible implementation.

The slope is a cliff and we are headed for it at full warp speed.

20 posted on 01/28/2013 10:47:17 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: expat1000

Yeah well the Big Guy Upstairs is watching the drones watching us.

Who shall I fear?


21 posted on 01/28/2013 11:00:10 PM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: expat1000

Through cloud cover?


22 posted on 01/28/2013 11:04:57 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: expat1000

Daily Mail is great! Thanks for posting the article with even greater detail regarding the surveillance that is available to Barry for good or evil.


23 posted on 01/28/2013 11:05:22 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: expat1000

This system can take any sector and toggle back and forth through time. They can track you back to the house (or place of crime) you came out of; to what you are doing in present time (with a colored marker following your movements). They can keep track of an entire city and know the comings and goings of anyone they want. If you are taken out, they call it a “splash.”


24 posted on 01/28/2013 11:13:54 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Comcast has that PBS Nova broadcast on pay-per-view.


25 posted on 01/28/2013 11:15:54 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

Used to be I would think this technology and think “This stuff is great - sure would suck to be a Gook, Taliban, etc.”

Now it is scary as I think instead of our enemy being on the receiving end of this, I think of me. HOWEVER - I would hope that the military guys running this would NOT run them over the U.S. BUT - other posts with regard to the Secret Service, SWAT, etc. make very good points that this technology will make it to our skies.


26 posted on 01/28/2013 11:24:49 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: expat1000
   it can see what type of phone you're carrying from 17,500ft

  I carry a portable Western Union rotary phone just to freak out the surveillance drones.
27 posted on 01/28/2013 11:34:28 PM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: IncPen

To mess with the people watching - put your cell phone in your shoe-


28 posted on 01/28/2013 11:44:08 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: expat1000
Why do I have the feeling that mirrored reflective material based Umbrellas are going to be the new rage? Hmmmmm Great potential for the inventive type. Think of the thousands of new jobs! Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

29 posted on 01/28/2013 11:50:09 PM PST by Chance Hart
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To: TigersEye
Through cloud cover?

Nope not visible light, but there are other spectrum's.

30 posted on 01/29/2013 12:00:29 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot

That they can see what type of phone I’m carrying?


31 posted on 01/29/2013 12:07:53 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: 21twelve

In that PBS Nova broadcast on drones, they said that we are in the Wright Brothers era of drone technology. With that technology, you can run but you can’t hide.


32 posted on 01/29/2013 12:27:16 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: expat1000
I remember the joy I felt when I discovered that the new Google maps pic of my house was taken in the summer and my little 2 story home in the woods is virtually invisible. The mailbox way out on the highway gives me away though. Its a real shame about domestic drone use. Hard to believe our own tax dollars are being spent to track us like sheep. This technology should be delegated for non domestic military use only.
33 posted on 01/29/2013 1:22:29 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: expat1000

Can it see my middle finger?


34 posted on 01/29/2013 1:35:36 AM PST by trailboss800
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To: trailboss800

>>Can it see my middle finger?

Splash one! :-(


35 posted on 01/29/2013 1:56:20 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Two Words: Information Overload.

This can have a paralyzing effect on real-time actions, just as having too little information can do the same.


36 posted on 01/29/2013 3:08:53 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: gunsequalfreedom

They could tell you whether a dime was heads or tails way back in the 70s. I kinda doubt the resolution is any less these days.


37 posted on 01/29/2013 3:39:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: expat1000

Interesting that the article states the altitude as 17,500 feet, 500 feet below the lowest usable flight level.


38 posted on 01/29/2013 6:48:45 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: expat1000
There are now UAVs that have the capability to hover right in front of your head like a hummingbird, shoot a .22LR into your brain, and fly away. Enemies of the state begin dying like flies in unsolved homicides.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2970580/posts

39 posted on 01/29/2013 7:11:42 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: driftdiver

They just think we are dumb and don’t know their capabilities. Of course, the reporter dutifully printed the misdirection.


40 posted on 01/29/2013 11:13:55 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: driftdiver

I think it was the movie “Conspiracy Theory” with Gene Hackman - and the Govt. is trying to figure out who he is - and tracking every move. Paraphrased IIRC:

“Come on - look up! That stupid hat he’s wearing!!”

“What - you can’t see his face?”

“No you idiot - it’s from a satellite!”

“Well - if you can’t see his face, what good is it? That’s pretty lame.”

All of that said, I imagine if they wanted to they can just follow the signal on your smartphone. I just bought my first one and most everything requires answering yes to “Can we use your current position?” in order to work. That will be the first thing to go.


41 posted on 01/29/2013 12:47:02 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: expat1000

System does not have nearly a large enough effective aperture using visible light to distinguish a cell phone type or even discriminate between a phone or type of another device. In fact, the phone would fall within a single pixel.


42 posted on 01/29/2013 1:03:51 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: TigersEye
That they can see what type of phone I’m carrying?

I don't think what they showed on the NOVA show would do that, but they probably have better stuff than they show us.

What they did show was impressive, It is somewhat like the "Person of Interest" TV show, but all from above.

It is a shame that we have to be afraid of a government that can see everything we do, but we lose the fear of God who knows our every thought.

43 posted on 01/29/2013 1:29:25 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot
I don't think they can see what type of phone I’m carrying through cloud cover. Secret technology included.
44 posted on 01/29/2013 1:39:40 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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