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Gun Owners, Opponents Clash Sharply At Historic Hearing At State Capitol Complex
The Hartford Courant ^ | January 28, 2013 | Christopher Keating

Posted on 01/28/2013 10:14:49 PM PST by Daffynition

More than 1,000 citizens descended upon the state Capitol on Monday to voice their often-emotional views in the wake of the shooting massacre last month at a Newtown elementary school that brought out national calls for gun control.

Some speakers called for a ban on military-style assault weapons and high-caliber magazines that allowed killer Adam Lanza of Newtown to shoot 20 children and six educators by firing at least 150 shots in a span of about six minutes.

The public hearing, focusing on gun-control bills offered by legislators, lasted more than 12 hours and went past 11:30 p.m. Monday.

Barbara Richardson of Sandy Hook, whose son attended the Sandy Hook Elementary School, said that cars and ladders are all regulated by the federal government in an attempt to keep the general public safe.

(Excerpt) Read more at courantblogs.com ...


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It is still going on. Viewable on CTN to CT cable subscribers. Some 1,500 participants. WTG CCDL!
1 posted on 01/28/2013 10:14:58 PM PST by Daffynition
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Some of the published Public Hearing Testimony January 28, 2013
2 posted on 01/28/2013 10:18:11 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

WTF is a high-caliber magazine?


3 posted on 01/28/2013 10:20:17 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Daffynition
Barbara Richardson of Sandy Hook, whose son attended the Sandy Hook Elementary School, said that cars and ladders are all regulated by the federal government in an attempt to keep the general public safe.

Dear Barbara, You might think guns aren't regulated by the federal government, but then again, it isn't a federal felony if a ladder or a car is 1/4" too short - like it is for rifles and shotguns.

4 posted on 01/28/2013 10:20:38 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Daffynition

The Hartford Courant is a terrible paper. They can not write a story without a slant.


5 posted on 01/28/2013 10:20:52 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Daffynition
Barbara Richardson of Sandy Hook, whose son attended the Sandy Hook Elementary School, said that cars and ladders are all regulated by the federal government in an attempt to keep the general public safe.

Yo Barb, last I looked so are guns.

6 posted on 01/28/2013 10:22:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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BAN CARS AND LADDERS!!!


7 posted on 01/28/2013 10:22:59 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ray76

They’ve been relentless since Sandy Hook.....day after day....page after page salivating at the thought of universally banning all guns....this is their Alinsky moment.


8 posted on 01/28/2013 10:27:47 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: coloradan

There’s more...if you dare ;): http://courantblogs.com/capitol-watch/gun-owners-opponents-clash-sharply-at-historic-hearing-at-state-capitol-complex/


9 posted on 01/28/2013 10:29:50 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

A good guy with a gun didn’t kill 27 people at Sandy Hook.


10 posted on 01/28/2013 10:32:07 PM PST by umgud
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To: Daffynition

All that has been enacted so far is to destroy Dr/Patient confidentiality.
The very people that passed the HIPPA laws used an executive order to destroy that confidentiality.

It’s pretty hard to pass laws against crazy, and I often think our legislators are crazy.
We have laws now that prevent the sale of fire arms to mentally disturbed people, but no way of enforcing it without getting into gray areas.

If some fellow loses his wife of 35 years and becomes clinically depressed and seeks prozac from his Dr.
Will the Dr turn him into the Feds and lose his 2ndA rights?

There are enough laws as it is, We cannot regulate away tragedy.

More people are hit by lighting each year that shot with evil assault rifles.

Ban Assault Legislation!!


11 posted on 01/28/2013 10:37:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“WTF is a high-caliber magazine?”

I guess it’s a magazine of exceptionally high quality. LOL


12 posted on 01/28/2013 10:37:49 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Daffynition

This whole thing reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode “The Monsters on Maple St”


13 posted on 01/28/2013 10:39:44 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Daffynition

Didn’t the CT State Police just announce that it might be 6 months before their investigation is complete. They got an extension on keeping records sealed.

So the legislators are going to “make sure this doesn’t happen again” before we even know “what happened”


14 posted on 01/28/2013 10:40:52 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Nik Naym

I hear new BS everyday LOL

DIFI said that collapsible stocks when fully collapsed make a rifle “full auto”

Or that is what a caller on the radio said today.
Funny how messages devolve with rumor, “purple monkey dishwasher” (a Simpsons reference on rumor)


15 posted on 01/28/2013 10:44:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Daffynition
Barbara Richardson of Sandy Hook, ..., said that cars and ladders are all regulated by the federal government in an attempt to keep the general public safe.

And any American can own any car or ladder.

16 posted on 01/28/2013 10:47:37 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Ray76

Good point.


17 posted on 01/28/2013 10:47:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
DIFI said that collapsible stocks when fully collapsed make a rifle “full auto”

And if a gun has a chromed stock that makes it an El Camino! LOL

18 posted on 01/28/2013 10:49:57 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Funny how these hand wringers thing nothing of strapping their lid into a car over 25 ga of gasoline and head 70 mph down the road with on coming cars just a thin line between them, and think nothing of the risks.


19 posted on 01/28/2013 10:51:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ray76

That was brought up dozens of times in the testimony today by speakers. There was no *give-and-take* between the committee and people giving testimony. None.

The big concern, is that when the bills are in final form, there will be *no* opportunity for exchange or discussion.

In the words of one person giving testimony, *It’s a mess!*


20 posted on 01/28/2013 10:51:38 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: TigersEye

Funny how these hand wringers thing nothing of strapping their kid into a car over 25 ga of gasoline and head 70 mph down the road with on coming cars just a thin line between them, and think nothing of the risks.


21 posted on 01/28/2013 10:51:38 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TigersEye

And we all know how dangerous El Camino’s are!

There are no seat belts in the back.


22 posted on 01/28/2013 10:53:08 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TigersEye

BTW, Andrew Cuomo who just passed a draconian gun law while shouting “No One needs 10 rounds to kill a deer!!”
Collects muscle cars. “No one needs 500hp to drive 55!!”

LOL


23 posted on 01/28/2013 10:55:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Daffynition

Ahh. The public comments are a sop. It’s all theater.


24 posted on 01/28/2013 10:56:17 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: umgud

Someone testified that the crazed killer broke 30 some odd laws already on the books.

Speakers brought home the notion several times, that since there is no one to prosecute for the murders, the CT gun owners are now the scapegoat.


25 posted on 01/28/2013 10:57:00 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Ray76

Since it took 20 minutes for police to respond to the school in Conneticutt, we shouldn’t be surprized that it will take 6 months to find out what happened .

“Gun Free Zones are hunting preserves for innocent people. Period.

Think about it. You are a violent, homicidal madman, looking to make a statement and hoping to go from disaffected loser to most famous person in the world. The best way to accomplish your goals is to kill a whole bunch of people. So where’s the best place to go shoot all these people? Obviously, it is someplace where nobody can shoot back.

In all honesty I have no respect for anybody who believes Gun Free Zones actually work. You are going to commit several hundred felonies, up to and including mass murder, and you are going to refrain because there is a sign? That No Guns Allowed sign is not a cross that wards off vampires. It is wishful thinking, and really pathetic wishful thinking at that.

The only people who obey No Guns signs are people who obey the law. People who obey the law aren’t going on rampages.

I testified before the Utah State Legislature about the University of Utah’s gun ban the day after the Trolley Square shooting in Salt Lake City. Another disaffected loser scumbag started shooting up this mall. He killed several innocent people before he was engaged by an off duty police officer who just happened to be there shopping. The off duty Ogden cop pinned down the shooter until two officers from the SLCPD came up from behind and killed the shooter. (turned out one of them was a customer of mine) I sent one of my employees down to Trolley Square to take a picture of the shopping center’s front doors. I then showed the picture to the legislators. One of the rules was NO GUNS ALLOWED.

The man that attacked the midnight showing of Batman didn’t attack just any theater. There were like ten to choose from. He didn’t attack the closest. It wasn’t about biggest or smallest. He attacked the one that was posted NO GUNS ALLOWED.” ~ Larry Correia ( firearms expert )

Gun Free Zone make us all ...-—> TARGETS


26 posted on 01/28/2013 11:00:28 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Our enemys don't fear us ; and our friends don't trust us !! I wonder why .. (rhetorical))
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To: Daffynition

Bingo.

It is madness.


27 posted on 01/28/2013 11:01:02 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ray76

>>It’s all theater.<<

I wish that were true.

This is all about eliminating all fire arms.

Infringing my God-given rights is a tad more than theater.


28 posted on 01/28/2013 11:02:12 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

You NEVER hear of massacres at a gun range.


29 posted on 01/28/2013 11:02:43 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Daffynition
Speakers brought home the notion several times, that since there is no one to prosecute for the murders, the CT American gun owners are now the scapegoat.
30 posted on 01/28/2013 11:04:25 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Re “WTF is a high caliber magazine?”

How about “Vogue”, “GQ” and “Mad”?


31 posted on 01/28/2013 11:05:40 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I am shocked that the hysteria has lasted this long.


32 posted on 01/28/2013 11:07:35 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

The only heartening thing, is that the pro-gun attendees were in *huge* numbers...no matter what the press tells us.

One speaker put it aptly....this is a *witch hunt* against law-abiding gun owners, with a goal for complete gun control. As I said above...this is the antis *Alynsky moment*.


33 posted on 01/28/2013 11:09:20 PM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: mylife

I think Cuomo needs about 50 points to get into the three digit IQ range. Talk about a guy who’s just crying out for a psych eval!!! lol


34 posted on 01/28/2013 11:10:10 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I often wonder about our jury system type of justice.

Every time I am called up I am reminded that most people are mush brained.

Thank God the founders said it takes 2/3 to pass a constitutional amendment.


35 posted on 01/28/2013 11:10:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TigersEye

Hey, He Married Sandra Lee. LOL


36 posted on 01/28/2013 11:11:51 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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mylife~:” You NEVER hear of massacres at a gun range.”

Because gun owners are responsible citizens,
‘twinkies ‘, or the mentally disturbed want recognition ,or ‘revenge’.

Which Presidential Candidate suggested the concept of “ Revenge “ ?
Buehler ?,... Buehler ? .., Buehler .. ?


37 posted on 01/28/2013 11:14:51 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Our enemys don't fear us ; and our friends don't trust us !! I wonder why .. (rhetorical))
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

38 posted on 01/28/2013 11:17:06 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Who is Sandra Lee?


39 posted on 01/28/2013 11:17:06 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

You don’t wanna know.

She makes Michelle look positively strong.


40 posted on 01/28/2013 11:18:13 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TigersEye

1st Lady of NY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2iWTJqo98


41 posted on 01/28/2013 11:20:27 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

0bama makes Michelle look strong. And tall. And masculine! lol


42 posted on 01/28/2013 11:22:59 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: mylife

What was her name before the sex change operation?


43 posted on 01/28/2013 11:25:22 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: mylife

Sorry ,.. I was looking for Buehler ...

“If you stuck a lump of coal up his a**,
in two weeks you’d have a diamond” – Ferris Bueller

“Revenge” is just so adolescent ... !
Maybe the U.S. treasury could use diamonds...? / sarc


44 posted on 01/28/2013 11:25:57 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Our enemys don't fear us ; and our friends don't trust us !! I wonder why .. (rhetorical))
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To: coloradan

I didn’t see any reference to cars or ladders in the Constitution.


45 posted on 01/28/2013 11:30:21 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: mylife

;)

The marathon session just ended. I believe this must have set records.


46 posted on 01/29/2013 12:33:31 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: mylife

A really good one?


47 posted on 01/29/2013 12:46:55 AM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Daffynition

I meant the hearings are theater.

The agenda is our disarmament. The agenda is treason.


48 posted on 01/29/2013 1:00:08 AM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: mylife

Playboy?


49 posted on 01/29/2013 1:11:02 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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Clear gutters being necessary to proper drainage beyond the house foundation, the right of the people to keep and bear ladders shall not be infringed.


50 posted on 01/29/2013 1:15:28 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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