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New super PAC hopes to give cover to pro-immigration Republicans (Bush, Romney, Rove RINOS)
Wash Post ^ | 11/16/13 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 01/29/2013 4:58:08 AM PST by jimbo123

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To: TomGuy

The GOP-e, at most, gets out 15% of the vote ~ they can be disposed of and replaced with currently unregistered Republican voters. There are 90 million adult Americans who don’t vote. Time to bring them on board, and without the GOP-e we should be able to do that.

21 posted on 01/29/2013 11:56:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I disagree completely. A large number of young children were brought to the US in their infancy, have no experience of Mexico at all, no remaining relations in Mexico, and speak almost exclusively English.

Skin color is utterly meaningless in this debate, for example taking a white American high school student and putting them in Russia, with a hearty, you’ll be fine, Russians are white people, too. They would be utterly lost, and would fall prey to the first villain they encountered.

Add to this that many families are mixed, with some illegal and some US citizens. I have known several such families, where grandparents, parents and children are illegal or legal with no rhyme or reason. Often citizens know minimal English, were educated or not in Mexico, and are entirely “old world”, where their illegal grandchildren speak English fluently, attended school in the US, and are wholly integrated.

It would be incredibly cruel to deport integrated people to what for them is a foreign country, splitting up families, taking children away from their parents and vice versa. There has to be a better way.

22 posted on 01/29/2013 12:51:33 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
i'm sorry ~ i was not brought up in Mexico yet on my very first visit as a young man I was able to walk across the border into a town where i bought food, drink, one of those chess sets with pieces carved out of stone to look like Aztec figures, and had a great time for nearly an entire day.

Those kids have an advantage over all of us ~ they grew up in households where people spoke Spanish and talked about Mexico and it's quaint folkways!


23 posted on 01/29/2013 1:22:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Wow, a whole day. Imagine if you had gone there by yourself, knew nobody, didn’t speak Spanish very well, and had to live there for a year or more, without help, or a whole lot of money.

You don’t even have, nor can probably afford, a room for the night. You would be desperate to get back to the US in any way you could, because you would otherwise be dead or a slave within a month.

You can’t “send them home” when here is their home. The only home they’ve ever known. Me, I’m not into brutalizing children. I’m willing to look at some alternative to doing that.

24 posted on 01/29/2013 3:38:46 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
i've gone to far worse places, couldn't speak the language, had no money ~ and survived handily. people can adapt quickly.

you have a strawman argument with little foundation. those kids grow up in mexican families and they hear spanish all the time ~ they are not without knowledge.

odds are good they ALL have relatives somewhere there.

obviously we should be deporting them along with grandma, grandpa, mom, dad, brothers and sisters ~ cousins, aunts, uncles ~ the whole crowd.

they want to be here, time to get in line.

Remember, these kids are not like WWII refugees ~ they, in fact, have citizenship somewhere ~ and if it's mexico, that's the world's 8th largest economy. there are well over 100 other countries in this world which are guaranteed to be far worse places to be.

25 posted on 01/29/2013 4:27:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Sounds like a great challenge, for you. Give it a month, and try to keep it under $500. Granted you will need a passport to go there and come back. You should have a blast.

But remember, you have no transportation, and you’re in something of a war zone, so be careful not to get kidnapped. No fair getting help from the US embassy, either, though if you can bum off your fellow Americans that is fine.

As you say, you’ve been in nastier places. Well, so have I, though I didn’t have fun like you did. But just take a month there, and then you’ll have some credibility with kicking those damned dirty kids back to where they came from, when they were two or three years old.

Remember, your life won’t be any good until theirs is a whole lot worse.

26 posted on 01/29/2013 5:16:09 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Get over your anti-mexico bigotry. it's one of the better places to be on this planet for anybody at any income level at any time.

The kids aren't going to be deported by themselves ~ they have relatives here who are just as illegal ~ SEND THEM TOGETHER!

Let them drive there in their own motor vehicles. Give them some time to unload their real estate and other property.

27 posted on 01/29/2013 5:25:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I am not bigoted against Mexico. You are bigoted against Mexicans. What you have been proclaiming is basically ethnic cleansing, and while I have tried to be diplomatic about it, it is increasingly offensive.

These are individual human beings we are talking about, not “them” as opposed to “us”. Please stop.

28 posted on 01/30/2013 5:05:27 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Ethnic cleansing occurs when an outside group comes in and drives off the natives.

So, you have it backwards. The Mexicans are engaged in ethnic cleansing ~ we need to put a stop to it.

29 posted on 01/30/2013 5:52:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Timber Rattler

Hispanics still don’t vote Republican even though Reagan gave illegals amnesty.

Greed must make people really stupid.

30 posted on 02/04/2013 11:17:55 AM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Timber Rattler

I have seen Guiterrez on tv numerous times discussing immigration but I have never seen him have an honest, balanced, open discussion of illegal immigration. It is always a closed panel and the audience is also closed to opposing views. And this guy has the nerve to keep calling us the “extremists”. Let them eat cake, Guiterrez.

31 posted on 02/04/2013 11:24:13 AM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks jimbo123. softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said. [Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST]

32 posted on 02/06/2013 6:41:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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