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New details surface on Iran nuclear explosion
WND ^ | January 29, 2013 | Reza Kahlili

Posted on 01/29/2013 8:49:57 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota

Sixteen North Koreans, including 14 technicians and two top military officers, are among those trapped after a Jan. 21 explosion destroyed much of Iran’s Fordow nuclear site, a source reveals.

The source who provided the initial information on the explosion at one of Iran’s most important nuclear sites has now provided details about the degree of the destruction.

The report, published exclusively by WND Jan. 24, is being covered internationally by major media, with independent intelligence sources confirming the explosion for the Times of London and the German Die Welt.

But White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters Monday: “We have no information to confirm the allegations in the report and we do not believe the report is credible.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fordow; iran; israel; nucleariran; nuclearplantblast; rezakahlili; russia; waronterror
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Interesting that the White House denies these reports. Even if US intelligence doesn't agree I would be twisting Ahmadinejad's tail.

BHO has supported the Ayatollahs throughout his Presidency, though. Traitor.

1 posted on 01/29/2013 8:50:05 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota
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To: LucianOfSamasota

My guess is that we’ve infiltrated the site....but we can’t let on....and besides....4 Americans died but what difference does that make now?


2 posted on 01/29/2013 8:52:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Who do mean by WE? I don’t believe our current administration has any serious desire to inhibit Iran’s ability to produce a nuke.


3 posted on 01/29/2013 8:56:33 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Hold my 맥주 and watch this.
4 posted on 01/29/2013 8:59:17 AM PST by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

What do you call 16 North Korean nuclear experts trapped underground by a conflagration in an Iranian nuclear facility?


5 posted on 01/29/2013 9:00:24 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Carney has to be the illegitimate son of Baghdad Bob.


6 posted on 01/29/2013 9:02:56 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Paine in the Neck
What do you call 16 North Korean nuclear experts trapped underground by a conflagration in an Iranian nuclear facility?

A good start.

7 posted on 01/29/2013 9:03:54 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
BHO has supported the Ayatollahs throughout
his Presidency, though. Traitor.
he's cheer-leading their efforts....
and preventing efforts to prohibit/stem nuclear bomb-making.

8 posted on 01/29/2013 9:04:29 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I think this is the work of Mossad. Just like the killing of their scientists...


9 posted on 01/29/2013 9:05:23 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Sacajaweau
My guess is that we’ve infiltrated the site

We? the USA? LOL! Not possible with the current pro-ayatollah regime in place in the WH. Israel's Mossad? Now that's a distinct possibility.

10 posted on 01/29/2013 9:05:46 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Paine in the Neck

KIM SHIITES......


11 posted on 01/29/2013 9:06:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
The report, published exclusively by WND Jan. 24,...

I'm beginning to believe this is all hogwash. No confirmation from other sources.

12 posted on 01/29/2013 9:06:25 AM PST by McGruff (What difference does it make? - Hillary Clinton)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Interesting that the White House denies these reports.

AND... if we go by past practice, this is a GIANT RED FLAG which almost guarantee's that it IS TRUE.

Anyone know how to find Seismic Charts for IRAN on that day ?

13 posted on 01/29/2013 9:07:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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To: McGruff

well at the chance my tin foil hat might shine to brightly...the msm only reports what it is allowed to report

Fox news did run the story yesterday morning saying that it had been confirmed by israeli intelligence sources


14 posted on 01/29/2013 9:12:35 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: McGruff

well at the chance my tin foil hat might shine to brightly...the msm only reports what it is allowed to report

Fox news did run the story yesterday morning saying that it had been confirmed by israeli intelligence sources


15 posted on 01/29/2013 9:12:44 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Well if Jay Carney says iot aint so, then it aint so.

I trust Jay 100%. He would never tell us a lie.

Our Government would never lie to us.

Obama wouldn’t let them.

Does this need the /s/ tag?


16 posted on 01/29/2013 9:13:36 AM PST by Venturer
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To: McGruff
I'm beginning to believe this is all hogwash. No confirmation from other sources.

I am always skeptical of WND reports, including this one. However, the White House denies it, which makes it more likely to be true, and http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4337728,00.html and http://www.timesofisrael.com/tehran-suspects-mossad-in-fordo-blast-says-iranian-expat/ and http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-intelligence-confirms-blast-at-iranian-nuclear-facility/ implicitly or directly support the story independent of WND. I'd rather see photographs (without jar Jar Binks in the foreground), but it's not just another WND story.

17 posted on 01/29/2013 9:16:18 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: Paine in the Neck

Work accident.

Red Wir ?
Brue Wir?
I don’t know pick o


18 posted on 01/29/2013 9:22:55 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“What do you call 16 North Korean nuclear experts trapped underground by a conflagration in an Iranian nuclear facility?”

An academy award winning movie?


19 posted on 01/29/2013 9:23:46 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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To: pgkdan; Paine in the Neck
What do you call 16 North Korean nuclear experts trapped underground by a conflagration in an Iranian nuclear facility?

Far too few.

20 posted on 01/29/2013 9:24:49 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

EMSC Western Iran............. Jan 22 11:12 AM M-4.9 20.0

USGS Western Iran............. Jan 22 11:12 AM M-4.8 49.8
GEOFON Western Iran........ Jan 22 11:12 AM M-4.9 10.0
EMSC Southern Iran............ Jan 22 08:44 AM M-3.5 12.0
EMSC Eastern Iran.............. Jan 21 19:49 PM M-5.4 37.0
GEOFON North-Central Iran Jan 21 19:49 PM M-5.3 10.0
USGS Eastern Iran.............. Jan 21 19:49 PM M-5.3 31.9
EMSC Turkey-iran Border..... Jan 20 06:53 AM M-2.4 11.0


21 posted on 01/29/2013 9:27:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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To: tet68

We know that significant amounts of explosive are used
to trigger these bombs, some more than others.
It’s possible they were in some stage of assembly?


22 posted on 01/29/2013 9:31:48 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I call it a God send. dumb butts!


23 posted on 01/29/2013 9:32:04 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“What do you call 16 North Korean nuclear experts trapped underground by a conflagration in an Iranian nuclear facility?” ... KIM’S CHI


24 posted on 01/29/2013 9:34:21 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: UCANSEE2

How would you cause an explosion in a underground facility? A small amount of explosives smuggled in each day..to build a critical mass? Or maybe a shot of natural gas into a vent system? Or a flammable liquid introduced into the water supply? Or..just a run away of some electrical equipment?
However it was done..if it was done..great.


25 posted on 01/29/2013 9:35:10 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: tet68

the Jooos did it!


26 posted on 01/29/2013 9:40:20 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Ronery.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 10:11:31 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I bet they blew their own silly selves up.hat makes more sense, that some exotic “force 10 from Navarone” was in the heart of the underground bunker and escaped without a peep, or that some bunch of iranians and koreans, working in a hurry did something sloppy and *kaboom*?


28 posted on 01/29/2013 10:17:27 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Mastador1

Well it depends. From the Saudi ring kissing incident, he might be Sunni. If true then the Shiites are infidels and fair game.


29 posted on 01/29/2013 10:18:02 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Mastador1

Well it depends. From the Saudi ring kissing incident, he might be Sunni. If true then the Shiites are infidels and fair game.


30 posted on 01/29/2013 10:18:21 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Paine in the Neck
What do you call 16 North Korean nuclear experts trapped underground by a conflagration in an Iranian nuclear facility?

Lucky. (hey, it's gotta beat being in North Korea...)


31 posted on 01/29/2013 10:21:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Paine in the Neck

A Democratic caucus?


32 posted on 01/29/2013 10:23:02 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: LucianOfSamasota

You cannot believe anything coming from this admin. Don’t even listen.


33 posted on 01/29/2013 10:42:22 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Oldexpat
How would you cause an explosion in a underground facility? A small amount of explosives smuggled in each day..to build a critical mass? Or maybe a shot of natural gas into a vent system? Or a flammable liquid introduced into the water supply? Or..just a run away of some electrical equipment?

I suspect that a computer virus (a "Trojan") that plays havoc with the experimental set-up, causing things to "go off" prematurely, would be the most cost-effective method.

Regards,

34 posted on 01/29/2013 11:01:03 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: UCANSEE2

None of those locations are near Fordo. It is located at 34.866, 50.997. NNE of Quom in the ridge below the dry lake bed. In 1973, I witnessed the Blue Angles doing a show near the Airbase just to the west of there.


35 posted on 01/29/2013 11:23:16 AM PST by mazda77
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To: LucianOfSamasota

The reality is that Hillary did not bump her head.

She was secretly in Iran working as an undercover agent planting exposives in the ceilings of the enrichment site.


36 posted on 01/29/2013 11:34:47 AM PST by staytrue
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Interesting that the White House denies these reports.

The White House isn't lying. There's no evidence of anything at all having happened at Fordow.

37 posted on 01/29/2013 12:50:48 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Pollster1
I'd rather see photographs

When and if commercial satellite imagery is available, you're going to be pretty disappointed.

38 posted on 01/29/2013 12:51:49 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: mazda77

Indeed, there was ZERO seismic activity within 100 miles of Fordow on the day in question, or any date near the day in question.


39 posted on 01/29/2013 12:53:22 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Mastador1

The Israelis did it...
As you said, 0bama has shown no interest in stopping them whatsoever.

And, he’s openly at odds with Netanyahu.


40 posted on 01/29/2013 12:54:01 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldexpat
How would you cause an explosion in a underground facility? . . . However it was done..if it was done..great.

Remember - miners have to work at not causing an explosion by accident. Underground facilities may have explosive gasses build up naturally. With uranium enrichment, you also have a range of potentially unpleasant gasses in use. The fluorine in uranium hexafluoride has to come from somewhere, and if they Iranians are morons, they might mess that up. The centrifuges rotate at a high rate and can generate static electricity or in other ways cause a spark if they are not maintained correctly, which could be colorful if there were explosive gasses present. The other processes needed for weapons components might intentionally (through virus commands or through direct physical sabotage) or inadvertently release the explosive gasses without intentionally smuggling in bulk explosives.

Causing something like this, if it was caused, is not hard. Bakeries can explode from airborne flour. Most homes have natural gas, which can be made to explode. Gasoline and propane can be made to explode. Chemical labs almost always have bulk solvents, which are often volatile and can become explosive. Tanks of high pressure hydrogen, oxygen, or other simple gasses are found in a surprisingly large proportion of labs. From the perspective of those who don't want nuclear war, it's not "how do we get the explosives in there" but "which ones shall we use".

41 posted on 01/29/2013 1:00:48 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: MrB

The Israelis did it...

You are probably right, but then maybe some of their Arab neighbors are frightened of them have nukes too!


42 posted on 01/29/2013 1:00:52 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Strategerist
When and if commercial satellite imagery is available, you're going to be pretty disappointed.

I almost agree. I'd say it's at best 50-50 that something happened. I'm still hoping - or perhaps the reports are premature and the actual explosion will be a week from now instead of a week ago.

43 posted on 01/29/2013 1:39:27 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Simple - if WH/obozo denies it, it must be true!


44 posted on 01/29/2013 1:59:34 PM PST by chrisnj
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To: LucianOfSamasota

All the information and news reports, pretty much track back to just one “public source” - and that’s Reza Kahlili.

There are a couple of news stories that cite some “unknown sources” (and nameless) - but those are questionable.

Even the Reza Kahlili source is questionable (which all these various news reports derive from) - because he’s not identified either.

SO ... what you have is some alias of a name, citing unknown figures that this has happened - and no one has anything objective, outside of this.

It would be different if you showed current satellite photos with rescue crews and a massive “operation” going on there (if there has been an explosion) - or - at the very least a “clean-up operation” going on. But, nothing is happening.

I would say that one has to wait for a while longer (maybe days and maybe weeks) before it really “settles down” and you get some real facts on the matter.


45 posted on 01/29/2013 2:01:48 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Paine in the Neck

A modest but commendable start.


46 posted on 01/29/2013 2:15:53 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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To: alexander_busek

We’ve done it before. In 1982 we let the Soviets steal compromised pipeline control systems we found out they were after, a trojan horse that supposedly led to the largest non nuclear explosion ever seen from space. Middle of nowhere Siberia, so apparently no one was hurt.


47 posted on 01/29/2013 2:24:48 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Star Traveler

It looks like the counter-narrative is that the story was sold to gullible reporters by either a) anti-regime Iranians based in the US trying to whip up support, or b) Iranian agents running an easily debunked story and attributing it to their opposition to discredit them.


48 posted on 01/29/2013 2:31:05 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: mazda77
None of those locations are near Fordo.

Well... that was my point. HOWEVER, the real problem was that I listed the data from JAN 21, 2012, instead of JAN 21, 2013.

I goofed big time. PJ-COMIX responded to me and listed the correct data in another post, showing seismic activity on that DATE and in that LOCATION.

Bottom line, it appears that there was some kind of explosion.

49 posted on 02/01/2013 12:28:01 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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To: mazda77; Strategerist; Political Junkie Too
The poster who correctly supplied the USGS data for the Fordo(w) incident was POLITICAL JUNKIE TOO, not PJ-COMIX.

(Well.... that's two mistakes, wonder what my next one will be?)

50 posted on 02/01/2013 12:40:19 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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