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Marco Rubio wins big praise from Rush Limbaugh
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Posted on 01/29/2013 11:28:29 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Marco Rubio wins big praise from Rush Limbaugh By: Kevin Cirilli January 29, 2013 01:55 PM EST

Sen. Marco Rubio went into Rush Limbaugh’s lion’s den on Tuesday and came out with a rousing praise and support from the conservative radio show host for the Florida Republican’s effort to reform the country’s immigration system.

“What you are doing is admirable and noteworthy. You are recognizing reality. You are trumpeting it. You are shouting it,” Limbaugh said on his radio program during a 15-minute phone interview with Rubio. “My concern is the president wants to change the reality.”

Limbaugh added: “You’re seek compromise, Obama is seeking political victory.”

Limbaugh asked Rubio if he thought Obama really wanted an immigration deal or whether he wanted to preserve the status quo so the president could paint Republicans as anti-Hispanic for political gain.

“They can try to sell that, but I doubt people are going to buy it. Because the reality of it is we have put something that is very common sense and reasonable,” Rubio said.

“They can’t argue that we haven’t tried to do our part to come up with something reasonable here, which has always been our point,” Rubio added. “Our point has always been that we have to fix this problem, but just because we’re for what you’re for doesn’t mean that we’re anti-immigrant and anti-immigration. And I think certainly it’s hard to make that argument to me… I didn’t read about this in a book, I live this everyday.”

Limbaugh repeatedly commended Rubio, saying that he hopes he succeeds in selling conservative ideals to the public.

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1 posted on 01/29/2013 11:28:36 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Rubio has obviously gotten word from the Romney/Rove wing of the GOP that the big money will back him in 2016.

So he is going all in RINO now. No surprise.


2 posted on 01/29/2013 11:37:07 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah...I’m gonna get on that train based solely on what Politco says - not. I heard Rubio and Rush. Rush essentially said he was SLICK! POLISHED! ON-MESSAGE ALWAYS!.....he didn’t say he said he agrees!

The sole argument for this appeasement is getting the Pubs more of that supposedly elusive, fickle Hispanic vote. We gotta appease them or else Rubio can’t get that big “Get” he can hang his hat on in 2016 race for the Presidency.

Afterwards, Rush demonstrated through history that this notion is bullshit. He cited Reagan’s numbers pre and post 1986 where he believed Democrat bullshit and did the dirty deed on amnesty....what did GWHB get? BUPKISS of the Hispanic vote -—even less!

SCREW THIS! SCREW POLITICO! SCREW RUBIO! I want these invaders gone or made irrelevant and illegal in every part of our society! I think Rush does too in his heart. We are Americans, not sniveling squat-to-pee appeasers.


3 posted on 01/29/2013 11:39:15 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m a Floridian and was OK with Rubio as House Speaker overall. But besides his rock star status nationally among conservatives, his conservative credentials are not as stronh here.

He does speak well but I am not buying into this crap - regardless of Rush’s apparent enchantment.


4 posted on 01/29/2013 11:39:37 AM PST by publius321
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To: lodi90

If Rubio is right on people over-staying their visa’s because they are not tracked or monitored by the government that issued the visa, it seems a simple policy change to say you track from the moment they land until they go.

We don’t need any new laws opening the boarders more.


5 posted on 01/29/2013 11:39:37 AM PST by edcoil (Manage your own lawsuit: www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=KK0012)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m a Floridian and was OK with Rubio as House Speaker overall. But besides his rock star status nationally among conservatives, his conservative credentials are not as stronh here.

He does speak well but I am not buying into this crap - regardless of Rush’s apparent enchantment.


6 posted on 01/29/2013 11:39:56 AM PST by publius321
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To: lodi90

And Rush knows when to bend over for the power elite.


7 posted on 01/29/2013 11:40:00 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama got wind of this “deal” and will do everything he can to blow it up and then blame the GOP! BASTARD!


8 posted on 01/29/2013 11:40:35 AM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: Sub-Driver; Liz

doesn’t mean that we’re anti-immigrant and anti-immigration.
_______________________________________________

Rubio, if you are for illegal aliens getting AMNESTY, a path to citizenship etc

then you ARE anti-immigrant and anti-immigration.

it means just that ...

HELLO ???


9 posted on 01/29/2013 11:43:17 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Wolfie

He didn’t bend. You didn’t listen closely enough.


10 posted on 01/29/2013 11:43:41 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Sub-Driver

11 posted on 01/29/2013 11:45:15 AM PST by drewh
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To: publius321

Marco ain’t a dumb bunny...he saw how an incompetent like Obama could get elected..he’s smart, he’s conservatively hip, he’s all that...he’s looking for that extra bump he thinks he can get with his brother Hispanics by appeasing on this with a spiel to conservatives that “this is the last best thing we can get and make it right” “Trust me, I’ll make sure we’re protected”.....all to do one thing - get elected President.

I ain’t buying it, not one damned bit. Yeah, I like him, but I’m not about to take it up the illegal alien invasion a$$ to get him elected.


12 posted on 01/29/2013 11:48:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Rush did everything but bend over for Rubio.

Not one question about how this actually helps Americans. Nothing about how flooding the labor market wont make unemployment rise or wages drop....nothing.

He kissed Rubio’s a**. It was frustrating to listen to.


13 posted on 01/29/2013 11:49:44 AM PST by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: publius321
He does speak well but I am not buying into this crap

Do you buy into ANY politicians crap? Just say'n.

14 posted on 01/29/2013 11:51:07 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: edcoil

The problem of people on expired visas is not huge. That is dem style misdirection by Rubio.

It’s the border jumpers with no paper and those who employ them that turned CA into Northern Mexico. Now they are working on flipping TX and FL. Why should we help them do that?


15 posted on 01/29/2013 11:51:49 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Sub-Driver

I listened to much of the interview and I believed that Rubio did a great job.

Later, I read an article listing Rubio as having voted to support of John TRAITOR Kerry for Secretary of State.....


16 posted on 01/29/2013 11:53:05 AM PST by Gator113 (Leave my guns alone and REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS!!)
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To: Wolfie

That’s my thinking. Also, no seems to recall Rubio’s own version of the “Dream Act”.


17 posted on 01/29/2013 11:53:58 AM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: Sub-Driver
Rush doesn't understand the impact of an amnesty. The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

Rush is just another tool of the political class.

18 posted on 01/29/2013 11:54:13 AM PST by kabar
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To: lodi90

Visa overstays comprise 40% of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country. Border security is only part of the problem.


19 posted on 01/29/2013 11:55:47 AM PST by kabar
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To: Sub-Driver

I’d think it would be easier for Florida to maintain their borders than, say, Texas/NewMex/Arizona/Cali.

Rubio’s plan doesn’t speak to the overland illegals.


20 posted on 01/29/2013 11:56:56 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: DwFry

I heard differently. His FIRST words after Rubio signed off were essentially “He’s polished, he’s slick, he’s on message.” He even cautioned about “what if you and your gang reach a message and the President doesn’t enforce it?”
Rubio retorted with a big “Trust me.” He likes Rubio because he’s slick and polished and can speak without a teleprompter or notes, a full class above idiot Obama, and reminsicent of Slick Willie’s inate ability to roll with a punch.

Rush is incredulous in my opinion because he doesn’t believe that anything the Democrats will accede to will be enforced. All things being equal and in an ideal compromise, Rush says it could be a good thing - But he does not believe it will happen at all. He’s just trying not to devalue Rubio at this point.


21 posted on 01/29/2013 11:57:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Sub-Driver
Rush has just killed all of his credibility. Rubio has jumped the shark and joined forces with the RINOS. For Rush to praise him for ANYTHING, just wrecks his credibility as the “conscience” of conservatives.
22 posted on 01/29/2013 11:59:20 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
IDK.

Rubio could be trying to solidify his base before going after a wider audience. Repubs are very fickle people (IMO). It seems that no Repub is pure enough for some conservatives, and not enough people (the electorate) will accept a "pure" Repub to get elected to national office. Those who maintain that Repubs be purer than driven snow condemn the GOP to secondary status. Let's get elected first, and that takes appealing to a wider audience.

We need another Reagan.

23 posted on 01/29/2013 11:59:20 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: lodi90

Excellent-—Rubio is an enabler. (Rush, too-—in my opinion. Rush goes just so far and, then, no further-—”wouldn’t be prudent”.)


24 posted on 01/29/2013 12:01:51 PM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: kabar

Too late. Those overstays with ability to get status thru family have already been placed in to the citizenship pipeline by Obama.

I know this for a fact because a friend got an UNSOLICITED email from DHS a few weeks offering adjustment of immigration status for his wife.


25 posted on 01/29/2013 12:02:26 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Sub-Driver

Rush is praising Rubio’s intent to sell the conservative and traditional immigrant’s view of the US as the land of opportunity (to work) to the newer immigrants. Rubio acts as if he thinks he can turn many new immigrants into conservatives.

I doubt it can happen, but that’s what Rubio is saying and that’s what Rush is praising, though Rush is also skeptical.


26 posted on 01/29/2013 12:03:01 PM PST by Will88
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To: DwFry

See my #3 post....I am NOT for anything Rubio said...I just see Rush as not against Rubio, but not for either. Rush knows what Rubio is trying to do is highly unlikely and dangerous, especially with Obama certainly not likely to enforce anything these 8 Senator appeasers come up with.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 12:04:15 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Will88

I agree. Rush is dubious as we here all are. Democrats f@ck us on every compromise that depends on future action, period. It’s real, it’s history, it’s certain. The only ‘enforcing’ they’ll be doing is taking your gun.


28 posted on 01/29/2013 12:06:10 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
All things being equal and in an ideal compromise, Rush says it could be a good thing - But he does not believe it will happen at all. He’s just trying not to devalue Rubio at this point.

Even if there was enforcement, amnesty would not be a good thing. It would be a disaster fiscally and it will add not only the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens to the voter rolls, but another 66 million legal immigrants who would be sponsored by the illegals who were granted amnesty thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification.

The very fact that Rush can support Rubio on amnesty joined by McCain, Graham, and Schumer is mind-boggling. Hannity and Rush just exposed themselves for the useful idiots they are.

29 posted on 01/29/2013 12:07:02 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

See my #3...I’m just saying Rush is trying not to muddy Rubio’s waters. Personally, I believe the 12 million number is bullsh!t...morelike 50 million. They are our enemies. They pollute our culture, they won’t assimilate; they murder, rape and rob our citizens; they bring extinct diseases; they choke our schools and resources; they steal our public aid; they choke our emergency rooms for GP needs; and they have absolutely no redeeming value to this country we do not already have. They are an invading blight.


30 posted on 01/29/2013 12:10:31 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Sub-Driver
Countdown to Rush being called a RINO:


31 posted on 01/29/2013 12:14:10 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: lodi90
There is no static population of illegals. Yes, the temporary visa holders know that once they get here, they can stay here by changing status. Did you know that 60% of the green cards issued each year are to people who change their status?

As someone who has actually issued visas, I can attest to the corruption within ICE. There is a saying within the DOJ about the prosecution of illegals, "It is not over until the illegal alien wins."

Just as happened in 1986, there will be a flood of illegals entering this country to take advantage of an anticipated amnesty. In 1986 the USG estimated that 1 million illegal aliens would apply for amnesty. The true number turned out to be 2.7 million. Imagine if there are far more than the 11 million illegal aliens estimated by the government? It is insane to promise amnesty without knowing the full extent of its impact.

32 posted on 01/29/2013 12:14:52 PM PST by kabar
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To: Gaffer
Regardless of what Rush intended by his comments, he is now on record supporting Rubio's efforts, misguided as they may be in terms of his trust of the Dems. Politico will not only run with this story but so will the rest of the MSM. Let's hear what the nightly news has to say. I bet there will be mention that even Rush Limbaugh supports Rubio's efforts.

For low information voters, it will appear that there is a general consensus among politicians and the pundits, left and right, that the 11 million "undocumented immigrants" deserve an "earned path to citizenhship." As for that small group of radical Rep naysayers like Jeff Sessions, Mike Lee, etc., they just don't get it.

I fought this battle in 2006 (Hagel-Martinz) and 2007 (McCain-Kennedy). The same Orwellian use of language is being used and very few are talking about the huge costs involved in such an amnesty. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation estimated in 2003 that entitlement costs alone for those given amnesty (12 million) would be $2.6 trillion. And this was before Obamacare that will add 18 million to the Medicaid rolls. Once these illegal aliens are legalized, they will be covered by Obamacare--and given their generally low wages, they will receive subsidies for medical insurance or be placed on the Medicaid rolls. And they will be joined by their family members--another 66 million of them.

33 posted on 01/29/2013 12:27:58 PM PST by kabar
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To: edcoil

“If Rubio is right on people over-staying their visa’s because they are not tracked or monitored by the government that issued the visa, it seems a simple policy change to say you track from the moment they land until they go.”

A large percentage of the illegals in this country today didn’t swim the Rio Grande or slog through the Sonoran Desert, they hopped on a plane with a one-way ticket!


34 posted on 01/29/2013 12:34:05 PM PST by vette6387
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To: kabar

Did you listen to Rubio on Rush? I wasn’t able to hear all of it, but in the part I DID hear, Rush was not agreeing with him. He was complimentary of RUbio’s passion vs. being jaded. Rush seemed skeptical that illegals were coming here for the AMerican dream as Rubio claimed.


35 posted on 01/29/2013 12:34:31 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene

Rush lost a lot of credibility when he backed down on his “slut” reference to the promiscuous law student who thought we had an obligation to pay for her extracurricular activities. I won’t comment on this particular interview with Rubio until I read the transcript, but if Rush stops being the voice for anti-establishment conservatives his audience will shrink dramatically. We can get the party line from NRO and other such publications. Rush has been able to carve out a loyal following because he’s been willing to poke the Dems and other leftists in the eye with a sharp stick and because he hasn’t been a lapdog for the e-GOP.


36 posted on 01/29/2013 1:01:15 PM PST by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Gator113

Elections have consequences! The ONE won the election and senate is majority democrat. And it takes a simple majority in senate to approve any nominee.

So what exactly is your method of stopping traitor Kerry? Republicans are MINORITY in senate in case you have not heard.


37 posted on 01/29/2013 1:24:30 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Sub-Driver

I listened to entire interview of Rubio by Rush. I had to wait 10+ years to get my US citizenship after entering legally. So I am not for any kind of amnesty to illegals.

1 Million+ immigrants are given legal permanent status every year. They have to wait many years to get it. AFter 5 years they all become eligible to receive naturalized US citizenship. If I understand Rubio correctly, under his proposal all illegals go at the BACK of the line formed by waiting immigrants. Therefore there is no special expedient entry granted to gain permanent status aka the Green card.

All the time the illegals are waiting, they receive no benefits at all. Not even Obamacare.

So the only “amnesty” the illegals will get under Rubio proposal is they do not get deported if they have not broken any other laws. They have already broken the illegal entry law. That is the only amnesty.

So I do not see the Rubio proposal as full amnesty, it is a limited amnesty for breaking the illegal entry law.


38 posted on 01/29/2013 1:34:23 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Sub-Driver

This farce.... Obama and GW Bush never were serious about enforcing the border with the laws we we have. So why would Obama or any president enforce any new always written into Marco Rubio/Senator’s bill

The border laws are never seriously enforced going all the way back to the Simpson Mazzoli 1986 amnesty. You always get lenience and amnesties but the enforcement never kicks in.

AND WE HAVE 25-30 MILLION ILLEGALS...NOT THE 12 MILLION BEING LIED ABOUT


39 posted on 01/29/2013 1:44:25 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Sub-Driver

Karl’s going to save the CA Gop too.. the VunderKind, Jaaa!!


40 posted on 01/29/2013 2:20:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Sub-Driver
Was this a subtle Operation Chaos on Rush's part to give Rubio a podium and a shot at leadership? Regardless if you believe if Rubio's aim is correct, he at least is trying to move us directions that are more Conservative. If his demands are not met, he could become "The Resistance" if you will to Obama....Time for a new leader in the Senate, it is time for McConnell to go...

A penny for your thoughts folks,,..

41 posted on 01/29/2013 2:31:26 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Girlene
Yes, I listened to Rubio on Rush. Politico is reporting it correctly in terms of what Rush said. Rush's main problem with Rubio is that he is too trusting of the Democrats.

Rush also said that he would be in favor of amnesty including citizenship if those receiving it couldn't vote for 25 years. This is dumb for a number of reasons. Granting amnesty will result in huge costs for this country and make our unemployment problem worse. And if such a law were to pass, it would be challenged in court and we would lose. There is no way that you can create a second class of citizenship where one couldn't vote for 25 years.

I like Rush and listen to him daily. On immigration, he needs to get better informed. Shilling for Rubio just because he is the point snake oil salesman trying to give us McCain-Kennedy again is just plain dumb.

42 posted on 01/29/2013 2:32:12 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

On the 25 year thing, of course it wouldn’t be possible. He’s just making the point that this is what the dems want - the added voter base....that’s it.

My take on Rush was that he was giving Rubio a shot to make his points, but didn’t hold out any hope the border issue would be resolved (be closed, that is). Maybe he shouldn’t have given him any platform, I don’t know.


43 posted on 01/29/2013 2:39:53 PM PST by Girlene
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To: entropy12
If I understand Rubio correctly, under his proposal all illegals go at the BACK of the line formed by waiting immigrants. Therefore there is no special expedient entry granted to gain permanent status aka the Green card.

This is the crap that McCain tried to push. Words have meanings. The Democrats and the mainstream media have hijacked the language surrounding the immigration issue to the point that we had Michael Chertoff, the Secretary of Homeland Security and our nation’s top immigration official at the time, testifying before Congress using the term “undocumented workers” to describe illegal aliens. John McCain and Barack Obama studiously avoided the term “amnesty” to describe their comprehensive immigration reform plans and despite the evidence, baldly declared that it was not an amnesty. Instead, they used such euphemisms as “getting to the back of the line,” “an earned path to citizenship,” and “coming out of the shadows.” The Democrats and pro-amnesty crowd know full well that the American people are against amnesty, hence the avoidance of the “A” word.

Any legislation that allows illegals to stay and work here--the object of their crime--is amnesty. It is their choice if they want to become citizens or just Legal Permanent Residents. By allowing them legal status in the US they go to the front of the line. There are over 4 million intending immigrants waiting in line overseas for their turn to enter. They have completed all the paperwork and background investigations.

FYI: As someone who has been involved officially in the permanent immigrant process, I can tell you that many if not most of the illegal aliens in this country would not qualify for an immigrant visa or even a tourist visa.

All the time the illegals are waiting, they receive no benefits at all. Not even Obamacare.

Do you have a source for such an assertion? This is all nonsense. If you are legally here permanently, how do you get healthcare under Obamacare? Continue to use the ERs for free? Most of the illegal aliens are high school dropouts and earn low salaries. They would be prime candidates for Obamacare. And many illegal aliens are receiving benefits thru their American born children, e.g., Medicaid, food stamps, etc.

The details have yet to be worked out on the Rubio/McCain/Schumer/Graham amnesty plan. They would like to sell it to you with all kinds of promises and generalities. McCain-Kennedy was over 900 pages long.

So the only “amnesty” the illegals will get under Rubio proposal is they do not get deported if they have not broken any other laws. They have already broken the illegal entry law. That is the only amnesty.

No, the lawbreakers will be allowed to stay and work here. And they are not going to be deported if they broke other laws. It depends on the law and what is a felony versus a misdemeanor. Under the 1986 amnesty and McCain-Kennedy, you could have up to three misdemeanors.

Most of these lawbreakers have broken many laws including working illegally, tax evasion, driving without a license, ID theft, lying on employment forms, using phony or other people's SSNs, etc. They have committed multiple crimes besides entering illegally--currently a misdemeanor.

So I do not see the Rubio proposal as full amnesty, it is a limited amnesty for breaking the illegal entry law.

You have obviously drunk the Kool-aid. This is an amnesty not a "limited" one. It is the same thing as the 1986 amnesty, which was called an amnesty by everyone. Just because Rubio has been chosen as the salesman for this shoddy product that McCain, Kennedy, Hagel, and Martinez tried to sell us before, doesn't mean that the new packaging should be viewed any differently. My God, Chuck Schumer is part of this Gang of 8.

44 posted on 01/29/2013 2:57:05 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Unless Obama is no longer among us, the border will not be closed off.


45 posted on 01/29/2013 2:58:37 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: bert

Agree. But I believe that the leadership of both parties is against a secure border. It was Kay Baily Hutchinson that neutered the Secure Fence Act. Too much money involved and political considerations to do it. The Mexican government has a vested interest in the colonization of America. The money sent back by their citizens living in the US is over $20 billion, more than they receive in oil revenue. And Mexico is our third largest trading partner.


46 posted on 01/29/2013 3:04:21 PM PST by kabar
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To: entropy12

So how did the Dems stop Bush’s judicial nominees? A minority can stop a nominee if they prevent cloture. Then you can’t get an up or down vote on the nominee.


47 posted on 01/29/2013 3:10:28 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

I am going by what senator Rubio said on Rush today. I have not had time to do any further research.

As for illegals receiving benefits, what I heard from Rubio is that it is against the law now for them to receive benefits! But laws never stopped Obama. Why else would he file a suit against Arizona for executing federal laws? Also, federal laws are separate from local laws. States, counties, cities can make their own rules. The legislation gang of 8 is proposing has no effect on local ordinances.


48 posted on 01/29/2013 4:46:48 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12
I am going by what senator Rubio said on Rush today. I have not had time to do any further research.

I have been working on the immigration issue for six years. I have done my research and I sure as hell know more about it than Rubio.

As for illegals receiving benefits, what I heard from Rubio is that it is against the law now for them to receive benefits!.

Illegals get benefits either thru their American born children or thru fraud. It is illegal for illegal aliens to work in this country. It is illegal for them to have an SSN. It is illegal for them to be here period. Since when has the law been an impediment for lawbreakers? These "undocumented" workers don't lack for documents.

IG Report: 4,317 Non-Citizens Obtained Multiple Social Security Numbers

"A report from the Social Security Administration Inspector General (IG) found 4,317 instances where a non-citizen was able to obtain two Social Security numbers, including 542 instances that happened since 2001."

49 posted on 01/29/2013 8:30:38 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Yap, law breakers don’t care about any laws. Which is why any new laws to restrict gun ownership will not affect criminals.

I can see how illegals of US born children can get benefits. Our system was designed to encourage immigrants. Which is why children born to any casual visitor on US soil becomes automatically a citizen. That needs changing too.

I am convinced we are already screwed. We will follow path of other once proud nations which succumbed to the socialist propaganda. Free stuff and soak the rich are extremely powerful to the low information voters.


50 posted on 01/29/2013 9:13:13 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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