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[Quisling ALERT] More Iowa Republicans coming out for marriage equality
Bleeding Heartland ^ | Jan. 29, 2013

Posted on 01/29/2013 12:54:46 PM PST by EternalVigilance

Very few prominent Iowa Republicans have endorsed same-sex marriage rights since the Iowa Supreme Court's 2009 decision striking down the state's Defense of Marriage Act. Every Republican now serving in the Iowa House and Senate is on record supporting a constitutional amendment to reverse that court ruling. When former State Senator Jeff Angelo created the Iowans for Freedom movement in 2011 to support marriage equality as consistent with conservative values, only a handful of Republicans signed on. One of them, Linn County Supervisor Brent Oleson, was later warned against seeking the GOP nomination for the special election in Senate district 18, in part because of his position on marriage.

Last night some heavy-hitter Republican strategists and activists met in Des Moines to urge the Iowa GOP to change its stance on marriage equality.


Former Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman, who worked on George W. Bush's first presidential campaign in Iowa, was the featured guest at yesterday's Iowans for Freedom event. As RNC chair, Mehlman collaborated on a strategy to place "one man, one woman" marriage initiatives on state ballots to improve GOP prospects. He came out as gay in 2010 and has been working ever since to reverse some of the damage he did to LGBT couples denied civil marriage rights. O.Kay Henderson covered the event and posted the audio at Radio Iowa. Mehlman's remarks run for about ten minutes.
"How can smaller and less intrusive government not include the right to choose the person that you would like to marry?" Mehlman said during brief remarks at the gathering. "...How does standing in the way of two adults who love each other not discourage rather than promote family values?"

Mehlman emphasized that civil marriage laws protect religious liberty and the right of religious organizations not to perform or recognize same-sex unions. He also talked about the hardships LGBT couples endure in states that don't grant legal status to their relationships. He said Iowa is "a better place today, a freer place, a juster place" because of civil marriage rights, and said opponents of equality can't provide a single example of how they have been harmed by other people's marriages.

David Kochel, who managed Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign in Iowa, helped organize Mehlman's Iowa visit. On January 27, he came out for marriage equality on WHO-TV's show "The Insiders." On that program, Kochel referred to a "demographic shift," including his own young adult children, who want to "move past" some of the social issues that have been a focus in Republican politics. Kochel asserted, "Frankly, the culture wars are kind of over. And the Republicans, largely, lost." He said that if Republicans are the party of "freedom and liberty," that should extend to personal freedom and the right to marry.

Kochel told last night's gathering that he usually stands in the back of the room at political events, but feels it's time to "step to the front of the room" on this issue. He said his children had called him to congratulate him after Sunday's WHO-TV program. For them and their generation, "it's a settled issue." Kochel said he had quietly felt this way for many years. While he understands that many Republicans will disagree with him on marriage, he urged them to recognize the need to "update our message," "reach out" and be more inclusive."

Henderson listed some of the other notables at last night's Iowans for Freedom Event. They included longtime RNC Committeeman Steve Roberts, Bob Dole's 1988 Iowa caucus campaign manager Tom Synhorst, Linn County GOP activist Kathy Potts, and (most surprising to me) Eric Woolson, who managed Mike Huckabee's 2008 presidential campaign in Iowa and the 2010 gubernatorial campaign of Bob Vander Plaats. No Iowan has been more relentlessly, some might say obsessively opposed to marriage equality than Vander Plaats. I am seeking comment from Woolson on whether he supports same-sex marriage rights or attended last night's event just to see Mehlman. Stan Thompson, the GOP challenger to Representative Leonard Boswell in 2002 and 2004 was there as well.

Toward the end of the event, Angelo asked supporters to "like" the Iowa Republicans for Freedom Facebook page, while Kochel jokingly asked people to defend him on twitter @ddkochel. They deserve that support. It takes courage to step as far out of the Iowa Republican mainstream as they have done. The sooner marriage stops being a partisan issue, the better it will be for everyone.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: gop; homosexualagenda; republicans

1 posted on 01/29/2013 12:54:55 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Damn, this constant redefining of everything from the left has gone far enough.

Gay is really SSAD (Same Sex Attraction Disorder) to be kind and sodomy to be truthful.

Marriage is between a Man & Woman period.

If the SSAD group wants some kind of phony bonding then instead of ruining the meaning of Marriage, call it “Mirage”. the fudge packers will think it is french for Marriage but just like them it is all fake.


2 posted on 01/29/2013 1:06:33 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Hard to avoid the obvious, that the US has put up no resistance to the inevitable and is now gone the way of Europe. Conservative keyboarding was never the answer to impending doom, so now it’s here.

Our hollowed out military is put now in a skirt and its a given that we are well into an era of state run media and religious intolerance placing only Christianity in the crosshairs, as well as dissolving the Constitution before our eyes.

Conservative media is still around only to keep a punching bag before the people, to see us brought down by nose twisting.

The shock is that collapse was all so damn easy. Barely a murmer, or last gasp. But that happens with keyboarding. Not a sound is made, none is heard. Sheep.


3 posted on 01/29/2013 1:16:53 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Will this include polygamy or polyandry or incest?

I mean equal is equal, right?


4 posted on 01/29/2013 1:32:56 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Pro-animal rights, Pro-abortion, Anti-religion, Anti-tobacco, Pro-euthanasia, Pro-redistribution of wealth, Anti-gun rights, Pro-labor union, Pro-homosexual "rights", Pro government healthcare, Uses children as props........Hmmmmm


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5 posted on 01/29/2013 1:35:54 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: svcw
Polygamy, polyandry, multiples of both sexes (whatever that would be called), no age limit, incest, bestiality ...

Imagine any perverted relationship you can possibly think of, any perverted act that you can possibly dream up ...

The sexually promiscuous and perverted left has already thought of it ... and worse ... and is trying to make it the "new normal".

The perverts are ahead of you on this, because they're perverts ... and you're not.

6 posted on 01/29/2013 1:37:54 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh for heaven’s sake. We already have marriage equality. Laws of marriage apply equally to everyone, regardless of sexual orientation.


7 posted on 01/29/2013 1:43:20 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

Yep.


8 posted on 01/29/2013 1:47:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

Tell me again why I should bother voting Republican?


9 posted on 01/29/2013 2:10:13 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: EternalVigilance

Hard to avoid the obvious, that the US has put up no resistance to the inevitable and is now gone the way of Europe. Conservative keyboarding was never the answer to impending doom, so now it’s here.

Our hollowed out military is put now in a skirt and its a given that we are well into an era of state run media and religious intolerance placing only Christianity in the crosshairs, as well as dissolving the Constitution before our eyes.

Conservative media is still around only to keep a punching bag before the people, to see us brought down by nose twisting.

The shock is that collapse was all so damn easy. Barely a murmer, or last gasp. But that happens with keyboarding. Not a sound is made, none is heard. Sheep.


10 posted on 01/29/2013 2:15:14 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: I want the USA back

Sorry. I can’t think of a thing.


11 posted on 01/29/2013 2:17:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

Well being heavily involved in Iowa politics, let me give you a rundown of the above names:

Ken Mehlman - Not from Iowa so who gives a crap.

David Kochel - Who? Not a common name in political circles.

Steve Roberts - Again, not from Iowa so who gives a crap. Even if he was...1988 Bob Dole chair? Really?

Tom Synhorst - I’ve heard the name, don’t know a ton about him.

Eric Woolson - Ah, the first legit player. Notice he gave no opinion. He might have been there for opposition research.

Kathy Potts - Also legit, but again no opinion given.

Stan Thompson - Boswell challenger in 2002 and ‘04? Those are Model T days in Iowa politics years.

Jeff Angelo - Legit, probably the only one with weight here that’s pro-marriage.

Brent Oleson - Legit. Paulbot I believe. He may be pro-gay marriage but it’s from a Libertarian perspective.

If you want to get a real litmus on where our state GOP legislators are. Almost all would be a resounding NO.


12 posted on 01/29/2013 3:13:07 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

Correction, Synhorst ran Dole’s campaign, Roberts was former committeeman from the Model T days, so both are has beens.


13 posted on 01/29/2013 3:19:00 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

Well, you may be very active now, but if you don’t know most of the names involved, you haven’t been active for that long. Those are some of the heaviest hitters in this state over the last twenty-five years. And, don’t kid yourself, they all maintain a great deal of influence in the GOPe, both in Iowa and nationally.


14 posted on 01/29/2013 3:32:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Mehlman emphasized that civil marriage laws protect religious liberty and the right of religious organizations not to perform or recognize same-sex unions.”

Civil marriage laws PROTECT religious liberty?! And insure that the state never punishes those faiths that won’t buy into whatever impossibility the state is calling marriage at the time? That’s the ticket, more state involvement to protect us from the state, makes perfect sense.

Civil marriage laws are whatever judges, pols, or 51% of the voting public think they should be at any one time. That’s all they can be.

Freegards


15 posted on 01/29/2013 3:37:41 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: EternalVigilance

BWHAHAHA! Bullcrap Tom. They have near zero influence and less every day. They don’t even have much influence over the money people. Every election in Iowa is a half-life, and any big name that’s been out of things more than 6 years is politically dead. If anything, that list of has beens shows you exactly where the Iowa GOP is today - totally against gay marriage.

We have one of the most conservative group of legislators on the GOP side in Iowa history, and you know full where the Paulbots and not the Establishment run RPI. There is no way this situation could exist if the conservatives didn’t have control over both the conventions and the primaries. Do you forget that Santorum won the primary and Paul came in third in the caucuses? Had the conservatives been able to rally around a candidate, Romney would have gotten stomped.

The only vestige of the old Establishment is Branstad and Grassley, and even they are markedly more conservative than the old days. So please, don’t try and sell your snow to this eskimo.


16 posted on 01/29/2013 3:48:18 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

What’s Kochel, like forty or forty five years old? For such an old “has been” he sure did a number on you all. Got Romney a political win even when he didn’t get an actual win.

And I know quite a bit about the current Republican ranks of legislators, and about Branstad and Grassley. I wish they were half as conservative as you make them out to be.

But, your perspective is obviously a bit different than mine.


17 posted on 01/29/2013 4:00:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: Free Vulcan
even they are markedly more conservative than the old days

I gotta admit, that one made me laugh out loud.

18 posted on 01/29/2013 4:01:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

Marriage equality is when a man offers to make a sandwich for his wife.


19 posted on 01/29/2013 4:03:20 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Yeah...

Well played!


20 posted on 01/29/2013 4:21:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: Free Vulcan
Thank you for some rationality. This group is to be discredited. Stop and think, why did they do this? We have no problems going in Iowa at all. Why would Mehlmann make a trip to Iowa to do this in a state that already has gay marriage?

They're a bunch of trouble making rabble rousers and we must ridicule them and not let this create a fissure where there is none.

I wonder if George Soros money is involved here.

21 posted on 01/29/2013 4:28:48 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: EternalVigilance

Tom, you are irrelevant to everything by your own choice. Go back to your insignificant little “third party” and stop pimping it here on FR. You have NOTHING to offer anyone.


22 posted on 01/29/2013 4:30:48 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

It’s my state, too. So you can pound sand, old friend.


23 posted on 01/29/2013 4:42:53 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

You chose to make yourself irrelevant.


24 posted on 01/29/2013 4:50:26 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I’m thankful you think so.


25 posted on 01/29/2013 4:52:41 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

Name some names buddy. Pearson and Massie just left as did Hamerlinck and Schulte and Sweeney - all extremely conservative. Shaw is still there, there’s Windschitl, Highfill, Upmeyer, Sorenson, Hagenow, Paulson, Behn, Sinclair, Roby Smith, Greiner, Sheets, Dix, Hess, Landon, Pettingill, Brieitbach, Klein,. Kapucian, Heartsill, Ernst, Rozenboom, Whitver, Kaufmann, Zaun, Fry, Sands, Maxwell and on and on.

I know or know of alot of those guys personally and I know the legislation they’ve sponsored. Who amongst them isn’t uber conservative?

Look at the legislation that’s being put forth this session...have you even looked? HF65 and 66, the Voter ID bill, making Right-to-Work constitutional. That’s just a few.

Your opinions are crap.


26 posted on 01/29/2013 5:30:12 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Hardly anyone know who Kochel is! I’m all over the 2nd district and I’ve never seen or heard of the guy directly or in conversation.

Deal with it - the RINO in Iowa is a White RINO. Most of them have died off or faded into irrelevance. The only one of significance is Gross and that’s only because he’s tied to Gov B.

Please, name the influential RINO’s in Iowa that can actually raise real money and win anything other than a caucus. If the Paulbots can take over the RPI, then I’d say the RINO faction is pretty damn dead.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 5:35:17 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Because they are on the downhill slope and they know it. It’s a desperation move. We’ve had enough convos on TIR and FB that I don’t have to tell you that the big worry in Iowa politics is the Paulshivek wingnuts not the RINOs.


28 posted on 01/29/2013 5:39:21 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan
Your opinions are crap.

Grow up.

29 posted on 01/29/2013 5:47:02 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

BWHAHAHAHA! When confronted with the truth Tom, you try to act as if you are the adult in a parent-child relationship. The classic stance of a control freak without authority or credibilit, and typical liberal tactic. You’re just like the loons at RPI, wrapped in flag and freedom, Marxist/Alinsky tactics to the core.


30 posted on 01/29/2013 5:59:27 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: RitaOK
But that happens with keyboarding. Not a sound is made, none is heard. Sheep.

There is nothing wrong with "keyboarding" (putting pen to paper) and many powerful movements, both good and bad, have started with overwhelmingly convincing arguments circulated in a well-written piece.

But, what would you recommend in its place?

31 posted on 01/29/2013 7:03:53 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Wurlitzer

It’s a paraphilia,just like all the other sick and perverted sexual acts like auto-erotic asphyxiation. (I think I misspelled that).

Normal people do not do those things.


32 posted on 01/29/2013 7:58:13 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: I want the USA back

Indeed. I fail to see anyone’s “need” for a 2nd Democratic party(the 1st one is terrible enough).


33 posted on 01/29/2013 8:37:26 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Free Vulcan

You’re acting like a juvenile.


34 posted on 01/29/2013 8:48:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

And you’re acting like a Marxist.


35 posted on 01/29/2013 9:27:34 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

Really? You’re the one who came on this thread and has consistently acted like a teenaged disciple of Alinsky.


36 posted on 01/30/2013 6:38:43 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

The fact that you keep avoiding addressing the facts that I’ve put forth and have done nothing but attempt to personalize and vilify me in the argument is classic Alinsky. You then trying to accuse me of what you are doing yourself is yet more Alinsky.

Bottom line is you are without substance. You got called on your fake meme trying to present the Iowa GOP as a bunch of RINOs when the exact opposite is true, in a snivelingly arrogant punk attempt to bolster your own party that has zero legitimacy in Iowa politics. The fact that you keep shifting the argument away to personal attacks only damns you more.

How ‘bout you start acting like an adult and use your energies to get someone from your party elected instead of huffing and puffing BS lies and serving your own ego? The sophomoric anklebiter routine is getting stale Tom. Just shut up and deliver the goods.


37 posted on 01/30/2013 7:05:27 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

LOL...

I’m “personalizing and vilifying” you?

All I have to do is scroll back up the page to see your repeated juvenile personal attacks, starting with:

“Your opinions are crap.”

You’re a hoot.

All I’ve done is point out your tactics, and the age level they represent.


38 posted on 01/30/2013 7:16:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

Spare me. Your post itself is the tantrum of a petulant child serving his own deluded ego. You got called to the mat by the adults pointing out your deluded fantasies of false information, and you chose to deflect and misdirect with personal slams, because you know you had nothing.

And now that you’ve been called to the mat again on your juvenile antics, you attempt to claim it is I who’s engaging in juvenile antics in typical of the narcissistic control freak throwing a fit like a toddler. It’s obvious that you neither have facts or able to accept that fact.

So put this on me all day bub, because it’s all on you. You can’t refute one thing I put forth, you were just trying to use FR to promote your little pet project with lies.


39 posted on 01/30/2013 7:36:00 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan; Steve Schulin; Gelato; BlackElk

Look, in the first place, you don’t understand a thing about our party. You think you do, but you don’t.

We make our political associations and affiliations, and endorse candidates, based solely on proven adherence to core principles, not mere party labels. In a real sense, our party is beyond party.

http://www.selfgovernment.us/affiliate.html

http://www.selfgovernment.us/leadership-pledge.html

To date, in Iowa, that has so far meant that we have narrowly focused our limited resources on intensely backing a small handful of principled real republicans. (http://www.aprealrepublicans.com/what-is-a-real-republican.html)

If we were instead given to making political decisions based on the continuous juvenile personal attacks of Republicans like you and certain others here, we’d go out and recruit candidates to run against many, if not most, of your buddies.

For example, we would recruit someone to run against every single one of your “uber-conservative” heroes of the GOP who are now pushing an increase in the gasoline tax.

We would recruit someone to run against every single one of your “uber-conservative” heroes who promised Iowa gun owners they would support constitutional carry and then did not.

We would recruit someone to run against every single one of your “uber-conservative” heroes who cut a deal with the Democrats on the last day of the session to put all the Planned Parenthood funding back in the Medicaid bill - after principled real republican legislators had stripped it all out.

We would recruit someone to run against every single one of your “uber-conservative” heroes who opposed legislation to equally protect all the babes in the womb.

We would recruit someone to run against every single one of your “uber-conservative” heroes who supported the most liberal governor in the history of the United States for President of the United States.

How many of your “uber-conservative” heroes could pass that test, do you think?

I mean, is that your goal? To try to provoke us to make all of your elections a whole lot tougher from now on?

Is that what you want, scorched earth?

So far, we have taken a very careful, selective, “first do no harm” approach to steadily reforming the politics of this state.

But, we could easily create total chaos for you and your party if we wanted, especially in this political environment where most of the base of your party is completely fed up with your “leadership.” After all, we actually represent the principles of the base of your party much more consistently and thoroughly than almost any of your party’s leaders you could name.

Is that what you want?

Do you want to provoke us to total, all-out political warfare?

Because if that is what you want we know how do that.

And there are discussions going on throughout our party all across the country about how we continue to approach this. Your attitude, and the attitude we see coming our of other Republicans, is being weighed by many.

So far you’re not making your party very attractive, frankly.


40 posted on 01/30/2013 8:51:39 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

Tell me Tom, who is pushing the gas tax in the legislature? Where is the bill? Please link it.

Who voted against concealed carry? No Republican that I’m aware of. Who voted against Stand Your Ground? Again no Republican I’m aware of.

Sweeney put an amendment to the HHS bill that all money must go to whole health providers, and thereby away from Planned Parenthood. Shaw filed an amendment to specifically deny funding for abortions. BOTH were ruled Out of Order. NO deal was cut for refunding PP because it was already in the original bill, and all attempts to change it were ruled Out of Order. Your ‘history’ is bogus lies.

Please, list the bill where Republicans opposed legislation to protect babies in the womb. HF 657, the Fetal Pain bill was supported by every Republican.

Which legislators endorsed Romney? Name them.

Your ‘party’ has absolutely no factor in Iowa politics. You are delusional. You have no ability to create chaos in the party and your BS that we are fed up with our state leadership is just that.

So bring your scorched earth buddy, you are pressing a button connected to nothing.


41 posted on 01/30/2013 10:31:37 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Free Vulcan

Well, you’ve shown that you know little of your own party’s history over the last two decades, or who the real movers and shakers still are.

You don’t know much about what has gone on in the legislature for the last few sessions.

But you’ve convinced me of one thing for sure. It’s time that I spent a little less time helping folks in other states and spent a bit more time in my own.

What a mess the Republicans have made of things. Sheesh.


42 posted on 01/30/2013 10:51:52 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('Where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it.' Samuel Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

And once again, as I presented the facts, you go back to general, unfounded accusations and trying to be parochial with no authority or credibility.

What I presented was from the House Journal itself. Who should I believe, you or my dirty lying eyes? During all your ranting manifesto diatribes you have not managed to produce any facts about anything, other than who attended this meeting.

And then your go back to more unfounded, factless accusations and delusions of grandeur.


43 posted on 01/30/2013 11:17:22 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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