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The Economist is living every much the surreal dream about Islamic moderation, and modernization through science. Come on. True they had once dabbled in science and medicine on the cutting edge of technology in their heyday. But truth be told most of their "accomplishments" in the realm of science were actually advances co-opted from those they had conquered.

A perfect example is of the numerical system we use today is referred to as Arabic numerals but they were actually discovered, invented in India from those they have conquered and to give it proper credit it should be called Indian numbers. A lot of the socc-called inventions and discoveries made in the enlightened period of The Muslim world were in no credit to Muslims as much as those they have conquered deserved the credit.

And if you study the last four reports of the UN status of the Arab World, available online, you get a block of 265 million people that other than oil, produce only as much as that of the GNP of Holland. The Illiteracy rate is 2.5% and a whole host of social/sexual customs that has the Arab World falling further and further apart from the rest of the industrialized nations.

And it's not even that science is seen as some panacea for the Muslims in becoming modernized and moderate. Thee Economist is really smoking something that's having them trying to save the Muslim world where nothing in the repertoire in the name of Science which is the non-believer's approach to the world will do anything to bring the Muslims out of the 7th Century. To them ,Jihad,in re-gainng their old Empire is the only way they see their future.

Here below is the sorry state of the Arab World as reported in study after study by the UN.


1 posted on 01/29/2013 7:03:46 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

The only science that could justify Islam is the science of inbreeding.


2 posted on 01/29/2013 7:13:08 PM PST by doc1019
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To: lbryce

But hey, they just developed a high-tech amputation machine! How can you say they’re backward? /s


3 posted on 01/29/2013 7:15:47 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: lbryce

I wonder why the author didn’t remind us of all the Great Automobiles and Airplanes produced by these Muslim Countries??


4 posted on 01/29/2013 7:19:42 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: lbryce
The Economist (which does a fine job of reportage -- less so in its opinion pieces), true to its name, overemphasizes the economic in accounting for Islam's scientific backwardness. Not once does the article mention destruction wrought on Islamic science by the adoption of the occasionalism of Al Ghazali in preference to the Muslim Aristotelianism of Averroes and Avicenna. (Al Ghazali's stance, which denies realistic causality, regarding every event as caused directly by the will of Allah, also creates a fatalism, which along with Sharia financial rules also accounts for the economic backwardness of the Muslim world: just shrug and say "Inshallah".)
5 posted on 01/29/2013 7:22:22 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: lbryce

This was a jaw dropping article via WoJ by way of Danial Pipes:

The Arabs didn’t “inherit” anything. They robbed, with raw force, everything, reducing a higher culture to a lower civilizational status!

http://sheikyermami.com/2013/01/28/the-arabs-didnt-inherit-anything-they-robbed-with-raw-force-everything-reducing-a-higher-culture-to-a-lower-civilizational-status/#more-124437

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Speaking of robberies and stolen symbols, for me a much more sinister theft of symbolism is Hagia Sophia which the Turks are so fond of boasting, displaying it in almost every photo of Constantinople and Turkey. These barbarians could not build something better so they boast of at least having raped and Islamizing the Emperor Justinian’s Temple.
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Read it.


6 posted on 01/29/2013 7:54:59 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: lbryce

Opening dialog from the movie EL CID.

Bin Yusef: (Lecturing the Moors).. “When men speak of you they speak of poets and scientists!

BURN YOUR BOOKS! MAKE WARRIORS OF YOUR POETS!
Have your scientists invent new poisons for our arrows...!”

Nice guy.


11 posted on 01/29/2013 9:28:09 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: lbryce
Between the eighth and the 13th centuries, while Europe stumbled through the dark ages, science thrived in Muslim lands.

Less than 200 years after the foundation of Islam, its religionists invented the distillation of the military incendiary accelerant Al-Kuhl, which has been employed in debasing the whole human race through intensification of alcoholism. Nice contribution, fellahs!

13 posted on 01/29/2013 9:54:34 PM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: lbryce

Top comment on the article:

If I were to burn a book for a science experiment, let us say a hardcover Bible:
Paper Bible + O2
=> Produces heat + light + CO2 , with smaller amounts of CO, particulate matter, and ash.
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If I were to burn a Koran,
=> Produces Muslim Worldwide Hysterical Homicidal Catastrophic Mayhem bringing us within a hair’s breadth of Armageddon.
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Explain THAT by Science!
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All paper books are not equal, which contradicts the First Law of Thermodynamics.
A Koran has some special ‘Q-factor’ not found in ordinary paper and ink.
And definitely not observed by physicists, scientists or measurable by instruments.

In the battle of for Reason in the Islamic World, Religion trumps Rationality.


14 posted on 01/30/2013 2:18:51 PM PST by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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