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Boehner spokesman to Obama: Donít mess up immigration effort
WaPo ^ | January 29, 2013 at 3:47 pm | Rosalind S. Helderman

Posted on 01/29/2013 10:27:07 PM PST by Red Steel

A spokesman for House Speaker John A. Boehner warned President Obama Tuesday not to derail bipartisan efforts to overhaul immigration laws by pushing more liberal proposals than those under consideration in Congress.

“There are a lot of ideas about how best to fix our broken immigration system,” spokesman Brendan Buck said in a statement, responding to Obama’s Las Vegas speech on immigration. “Any solution should be a bipartisan one, and we hope the President is careful not to drag the debate to the left and ultimately disrupt the difficult work that is ahead in the House and Senate.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens

1 posted on 01/29/2013 10:27:11 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I am afraid the GOPe-Dem coalition will pass this mostrosity


2 posted on 01/29/2013 10:29:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Red Steel

Don’t mess it up or else Boehner may cry!


3 posted on 01/29/2013 10:34:44 PM PST by Vindication
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To: GeronL

I hope obama monkeywrenches this thing to hell and gone and I hope the pubs make him eat it when he tries to blame them...and I’ll bet a lot of pubs are hoping the same thing.


4 posted on 01/29/2013 10:38:07 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Red Steel

How can laws never enforced need to be overhauled?


5 posted on 01/29/2013 10:45:15 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Red Steel; Liz; AuntB; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; GOPsterinMA; ...
I thought the end of year tax fight was stupid and I figured they would lose another debt extension standoff, both deadline driven events.

But this is different. There is no hard deadline in passing amnesty except rushing it through before opposition can take hold.

What you are seeing with Bohner’s comment above and the Rubio comments on Obama’s plan is a deceptive scam to fool Republicans into thinking that they are opposing O while passing his plan.

In fact tonight over on the Dem channel ‘The Last Word’ they were joking about how they (Rubio, McCain, Bohner) have to play this ‘Obama’s plan is unacceptable’ act when the two plans are basically the same, to fool stupid Republicans into not opposing it.
As if Obama would veto a ‘path to voting’ bill that reaches his desk.
Ignore the ‘path to voting’ in the bill, keep your eye on the border instead”

If they give illegals the right to vote, even if delayed by a few years in the Rub bill, it is over,
Deficits, taxes, mandates,.... etc fights will be pointless.
Talk about convincing the voters will be meaningless.
We might as well all become Democrats at that point.

6 posted on 01/29/2013 11:09:38 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Red Steel; Liz; steerpike100; 9YearLurker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...

And whether illegals come here and personally collect welfare or not is small potatoes.
The key is voting.

Many illegals who are already here (from childhood) will get educations discounted college like here in Maryland and if they get amnesty will pay taxes(government jobs) .
But they will line up and vote for the welfare state and progressive values.

Rubio on Rush today (Tues) said that they will open businesses and ‘understand the cost of government.’

This is very deceptive sweet sounding talk and how they are waging this fight: to convince us that illegals are natural (business owners) conservatives and that they (Rubio, McCain, Bohner) are fighting O on this.


7 posted on 01/29/2013 11:25:41 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Red Steel

I believe Boehner’s comment is part of ACT ONE from Kabuki Theater.


8 posted on 01/29/2013 11:54:35 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: sickoflibs

There’s certainly no doubt that most of the nation’s illegal aliens come from socialist countries and would vote for more of the same. However, I wonder how many would even apply for citizenship. Do they even want to be Americans? I don’t know. It seems like many don’t want to adopt our culture or language, preferring instead to bring their countries here.

Businesses like the cheap labor. How large is our undocumented economy? Are these folks going to pay far more for legal employees? I don’t know. There’s a reason why companies hire illegals and pay them off the books—it’s profitable and undercuts legal competition.

Then you have this secure border nonsense. I read Senator Rubio wants a commission that includes representatives from border states to first certify the border is secure before we get an amnesty. Who will sit on this commission? Will it be composed of equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans? We know where THAT would lead, as the RINOs would join the Dems to certify the border in short order.

There’s no will to enforce current law. We would be fools to believe government will suddenly start enforcing a slew of new laws. They don’t want to round up illegal aliens now. What will they do when millions more sneak in (in spite of the “certified secure” border) after this amnesty. Again, we’d be utter fools to believe them this time. It’s been done before! We KNOW how it turns out.


9 posted on 01/29/2013 11:55:50 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Red Steel

Wait. Boehner doesn’t know the congress rats are already on exactly the same page as the African communist scumbag?
Drag the debate to the left? WTF?!


10 posted on 01/29/2013 11:59:51 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Red Steel

There’s no more room on the left!


11 posted on 01/30/2013 12:00:37 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Red Steel
Bone-Head Boehner has GOT TO GO!

This disgusting Curse on our Nation named Barack Hussein Obama II, aka Barry Soetoro, has a real birth certificate, with his right footprint on it.
All you have to do is look for it.

Here's some critical sources and FACTS.
People can go to www.scribd.com and read their pages 20 thru 32 ,
For those of you who don't know, remember this:
8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to meRead it for yourself.
Then look at these links.
Just before the 2008 election Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.

Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were 8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!

Obama's record is hard to find.
Check this link out Sunday, June 27, 2004 Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.

This document from the British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. in 1961 In Kenya


shows a birth date of Aug 4, 1961, the exact date of genuine birth certificate with Obama's right foot print on it.

This IS the very document that links the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF to his birth certificate.

Let me say again: Think about this.
Here's something to ponder. Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.

Read INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!
The documents provided in that article are very damaging to Obama, and well worth your time.

Most of these early "supporters" of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF were party to the Communists "spooks".
There's a great volume of history you have to go through to understand this, and it goes back to about 1850.

Read these three articles on one of my earlier post:


Now go back and read The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals.

Are you getting the depth of this Fabian Society takeover?

You wouldn't believe the information here

It's deep, it's ugly, and most people WILL NOT ... CAN NOT ... accept the truth.

Anybody recall a press release telling the masses about federal intelligence notes sent warning police about this cabal?





12 posted on 01/30/2013 12:06:22 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Red Steel

humm, seems to me that the right things to do include the following:

make e-verify mandatory to end employer abuse of slave-wage, illegal immigration. i.e., why not remove the reason illegals come to America? unless of course you actually want them to come.

end the unconstitutional practice of allowing chain migration “citizenship” for the children of illegal immigrant parents. unless you think that anyone in the world has the authority to grant *themselves* citizenship in America through their children?

secure our borders by fully funding and enforcing *existing* immigration law as required of the federal government by the law of the land, The Constitution. unless you couldn’t careless about enforcing the Constitution. but then why would any politician not want to uphold their oath of office?

if you’re really serious about solving the immigration problem, one wonders why you don’t just implement this low hanging fruit. conversely, if you won’t even argue for these three preconditions before making a massive, costly, “comprehensive” effort which doesn’t include these simple things, then i submit that whether republican or democrat, you prove yourself to be an untrustworthy politician pandering for votes at the cost of an existential threat to our nation.

perhaps boehner is so busy salivating at the thought of pandering to all those latinos, that the right things to do just don’t occur to him.


13 posted on 01/30/2013 12:09:30 AM PST by dadfly
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To: CitizenUSA
RE :”There’s certainly no doubt that most of the nation’s illegal aliens come from socialist countries and would vote for more of the same. However, I wonder how many would even apply for citizenship. Do they even want to be Americans? I don’t know. It seems like many don’t want to adopt our culture or language, preferring instead to bring their countries here.”

I do know.
Here in Maryland we have been invaded by legal immigrants Koreans the past 10 or so years and they vote Dem, and their kids part of the cool Obama culture vote Dem. Dems recently passed about 7 tax increases here with zero opposition: sales tax, income tax, alcohol and tobacco taxes, gasoline taxes next

Many illegals were brought here as kids and graduate from HS here which is why the ‘pass nothing’ wing of the R party will lose this fight. They will always be see as victims so the Rubio-Obama side will give them the vote, for Dem of course .

I see nothing that shows me that we will do anything but lose from them voting. Sure GWB won some of their votes in 2004, but look at the massive give-away it took (tax cuts plus huge increases in spending) and he still benefited from 9/11, and by 2006 that party was over.

What will candidate Rubio promise them to vote for him in 2016?

14 posted on 01/30/2013 12:19:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Red Steel

FUBONER


15 posted on 01/30/2013 12:25:07 AM PST by BOOHA
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To: Red Steel

FUBONER


16 posted on 01/30/2013 12:25:19 AM PST by BOOHA
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To: Red Steel
In other words, we're giving you everything you want, so don't screw it up.

I'm sick of this, 2014 needs a house leadership change like a three day old diaper.

17 posted on 01/30/2013 12:25:26 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Red Steel

Boehner has to be the dumbest a-hole to ever hold that position. He has fallen right into Obama’s trap. Obama laid out a plan so divisive and absurd it is doomed to fail. Of course, that was his intent. Obama’s plan makes the traitor’s plan look reasonable by comparison and that is exactly what he wants.

While Obama and his minions are laughing at Boner and the GOP we citizens are left to mourn or dead country.


18 posted on 01/30/2013 3:35:06 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Red Steel

Wish Boner showed this much backbone when it concerns American citizens.

Anyone still considering voting for GOP not only is a Liberal...but has many screws loose


19 posted on 01/30/2013 3:44:55 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: CitizenUSA
There’s certainly no doubt that most of the nation’s illegal aliens come from socialist countries and would vote for more of the same. However, I wonder how many would even apply for citizenship. Do they even want to be Americans? I don’t know. It seems like many don’t want to adopt our culture or language, preferring instead to bring their countries here.

They are waiting to collect Social Security. Once legalized they become eligible. Then they can retire to their cesspool of a "home country" and live high on the hog off our children's tax dollars. Also, setting up voting rights to vote free stuff for their bambinos.

I hate these traitors, invaders and quislings...

20 posted on 01/30/2013 3:46:26 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Red Steel
Here's another example of why Boehner is a failure and will be a failure. His spokesman uses liberal talking points: "our broken immigration system". Really?

What exactly is broken about the immigration system? The main problem I see is that the current laws are not being enforced.

The problems with the current laws are never, ever mentioned. First, the law was changed to favor immigrants, putting the benefit to Americans and the United States by immigration has been lost.

Mark Levin pointed out last night how Eugene McCarthy and other liberals said that the US economy can not compete in the world on the basis of importing low cost (low wage) labor. But that's exactly what we're doing.

Allowing 10's of millions of foreigners and foreign governments determine the number of illegal aliens in our country is insane.

Boehner needs to change the template, not embrace it. He's a loser, he doesn't know what battle he's fighting. My suspicion is really that Boehner's on the other side. That he's losing on purpose, because he doesn't agree with conservative/libertarian positions.

21 posted on 01/30/2013 4:03:29 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: CitizenUSA; Red Steel; Liz; steerpike100; 9YearLurker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...
Here's more obvious proof that illegals getting the vote will be a problem :
The Dems wont accept a bill without it. It is their #1 demand, they know who these folks will vote for otherwise it wouldnt be their non negotiable item.

All this smoke about Obama disagreeing on border protection is just a scam to get us to line up with Rubio, MCcain and R party leaders by making us think they are fighting Obama.
This is just a scam to change the story on FNC and talk radio aways from the drawbacks of amnesty.

Obama will gladly sign any bill with ‘path to voting ‘ in it.
So I say tell O that ‘path to voting’ is not on the table. Republicans should take that stand and see Dems scream.

22 posted on 01/30/2013 4:46:39 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: GeronL

Ink’s probably already dry on the bill in the backroom. You can pretty much bet on it.


23 posted on 01/30/2013 4:57:43 AM PST by mykroar ("I'm afraid I can't use a mule. I have several hundred up on Capitol Hill." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: sickoflibs

Exactly, and the GOP is in on the scam just as much as Barry. They claim that they’ve we’ll have border security before we make citizens of 20 million new Democrat voters, but there is nothing in their bill to stop Barry from offering it immediately. Only a commission that can offer a ‘recommendation’—which you know was put in there only to try and fool us.


24 posted on 01/30/2013 5:07:01 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: raybbr

Boehner has to be the dumbest a-hole to ever hold that position.


You are wrong. Boehner is simply the “new-age” kinder, gentler, “in touch with themselves,” sensitive, diverse, and neutered male that is the typical Republican of today.

He’s simply doing his part to maintain harmony between the free people and the communists. You just gotta give him credit where credit is due.


25 posted on 01/30/2013 5:17:20 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: sickoflibs

Nice take.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 5:44:19 AM PST by Liz
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To: All
Hispanic pressure groups---"Voto Latino" AND other latino groups lobbying Congres for amnestys----- need immediate investigation:

(1)to determine the scope and dimension of Voto Latino and other Hispo/lobbying groups using pressure tactics on Congress (a violation of US law).

(2) Hispo/lobbying groups and Voto Latino's exchanging votes for amnesty (a violation of US law).

(3) Hispo/lobbying groups and Voto Latino's sources of funding---whether tax dollars are illegally funding legislative initiatives, and, whether foreign countries are funding their activities.

(4) whether Voto Latino is using hate-mongering against amnesty opponents to force a vote.

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enforcement@SEC.gov

IRS toll free 1-800--829-1040

FBI TIPS PAGE---https://tips.fbi.gov/

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PARA-MILITARY DEMOCRATS A RELIC OF CIVIL WAR Carpetbaggers---Northern invaders into the South ----were prominent in politics until 1875, but nearly all left under pressure from the Red Shirts and White Liners -----white paramilitary organizations, then-described as "the military arm of the Democratic Party", working openly to violently overthrow Republican rule, using intimidation and assassination to turn Republicans out of office and suppress freedmen's (former slaves) voting.

The Republican sheriff of Yazoo, Mississippi, received a brief flurry of national attention when insurgent white Democrats took over the county government and forced him to flee. (WIKI)

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FREEPER ACTION MEMO In 1875, Hiram Revels, a Mississippi Republican--and the first African-American US Senator--wrote to then-Pres Ulysses S. Grant denouncing Northern invaders into the post-Civil War south for manipulating the Black vote for personal benefit, and for keeping alive wartime hatreds. (WIKI)

We need to get someone with integrity----like Cong Allen West (not reelected)----- to write letters to his colleagues, and to the media.

Cong West needs to do the following:

(1) decry the agitation and intimidation tactics being used by latino groups,

(2) expose latinos using hatemongering for personal gain,

(3) emphasize the illegalities WRT threateing the US Congress, and,

(4) precpitate investigations into fraud.

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Is Mexico friend or foe?

EXCERPT Scary Times in the Texas Valley: Ask old timers about the “WW 11 days” in South Texas and you’ll get assorted stories and tales, enough to fill a book.....South Texas was a hot-bed of conspiracy theories, real and present dangers, and a fear of direct war time threat. Apparently the concerns were not without foundation.

For one, the political climate in neighboring Mexico was extremely volatile. Agents of the German war machine were known to be active throughout Mexico (with the knowledge and consent of the Mexican govt?).

Nazi Germany was the leading importer of Mexican oil, taking just over half of their annual production....... To counter, American oil and gas production in Texas and Louisiana was elevated. Port Isabel's large oil refinery was a shipping point for fuel headed to the war, and was considered a possible target for German U-boat shelling or even a shore scurry. (Hat tip to FReeper Grampa Dave for posting the full article.)

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I guess when Texas Gov Perry was honored by Mexico for giveaways to illegals---and when he told nay-saying Rep primary voters we didn't have a heart----he knew n-o-t-h-i-n-g about Texas-Mexico military history (/snix).

27 posted on 01/30/2013 5:46:33 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
RE :”Nice take.”

Take ‘path to voting’ off the table and Dems will scream.
All this enforcement talk by Rubio and McCain is to just distract us from the ‘path to voting’ that Dems demand and these RINOs caved early on.

That Darn Obama doesnt want to protect the borders. Thanks goodness we have Rubia to stand up to him

Offer no freebees and no voting and see how many sign up!

28 posted on 01/30/2013 5:58:11 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana; Grampa Dave; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...
Rubio is engaging in very deceptive, sweet sounding talk, attempting to convince recalcitrant Americans that illegals are "conservatives," and that Rubio, McCain, Bohner are fighting Obama on this. Truth is----the key to amnesty is voting by hate-mongering latino pressure groups. That translates into (1) a permanent Dem party, and, (2) US foreign aid zillions to the corrupt Third World.

Sure would like to see Rubio's emails, cell phone records, and the like----to see who in the Third World is giving him orders.

The salivating federales see a Pres Rubio as their ticket to untold riches----as the dispenser of US tax dollars. The playbook is already in-place---Rubio hired a neocon for his campaign.

The cunning pukeneos are masters at duping US presidents and blanketing America-hating hellholes with tax dollars.

29 posted on 01/30/2013 6:08:32 AM PST by Liz
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; Tennessee Nana

Vote-crazed pols are concerned only w/ getting entrenched in office, and achieving higher office, on the backs of mainstream Americans-—using MSM Americans for their personal gain.

Fugeddabait.

We have to scare the beejezus out of ‘em-—let the creeps know WE KNOW what they’re up to.

It’s appalling that a few narcissistic pols can corrupt a Nation-—making unconscionable demands on the citizenry.

Allowing law-breakers and foreign countries to exert a stranglehold on a free country is NOT what the Founders intended.


30 posted on 01/30/2013 6:26:19 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; 9YearLurker; CitizenUSA; Red Steel; steerpike100; Kaslin; ...
RE :”Sure would like to see Rubio’s emails, cell phone records, and the like——to see who in the Third World is giving him orders. “

Over at the Voto Latino websight Maria Teresa Kumar is president and she has been on MSNBC praising McCain/Rubio and politely told Ed Schulz not to criticize them on TV for their motives as long as they are working to get more(create) Latino voters, err earned legalization, justice.

About Voto Latino

Cant their families unite back in the 3rd world nations they came from?

31 posted on 01/30/2013 6:57:27 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: SatinDoll

Shut up !!!

Youre making sense...

:)


32 posted on 01/30/2013 7:54:57 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Red Steel

Let’s face it, this is nothing more than a ‘pandering for votes’ campaign.

El Rushbo has an amendment to this amnesty proposal that would suit me just fine - “withhold voting rights to the illegals for 25 years”.


33 posted on 01/30/2013 8:23:56 AM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: sickoflibs

see #33


34 posted on 01/30/2013 9:38:13 AM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: shove_it
RE :”El Rushbo has an amendment to this amnesty proposal that would suit me just fine - “withhold voting rights to the illegals for 25 years”.

Yep, that will give them time to establish those businesses that Rubio claims they will create (HA-HA) after they get amnesty, before they vote.

I am not esp a Rush fan but anyone can see that this past election showed that illegals will vote D, not R as McCain and Rubio are hinting at in interviews.

Why else would Dems (O, reid, Pelosi, ..) say their voting rights is the one thing that is non -negotiable if they were not sure they would vote D??

35 posted on 01/30/2013 9:45:26 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

Right on. It’s not about the bleating ... “oh, the humanity of it blah, blah, blah.” It’s 1,000% about getting the votes to keep the Rats in power. The 25 year voting exemption should be non-negotiable for the Pubs to go along with this pipe dream.


36 posted on 01/30/2013 7:44:37 PM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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