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Man kills Alabama bus driver, holds child hostage underground
CNN ^ | 01/30/2013 | Lateef Mungin, CNN

Posted on 01/30/2013 9:29:49 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

(CNN) -- A gunman boarded a school bus in Alabama, took a 6-year-old boy hostage and killed the driver who tried to save him, police said Wednesday.

The incident occurred Tuesday and continued into Wednesday morning, with authorities still desperately trying to free the young child, who was being held by the gunman in an underground bunker.

"We will continue to work diligently through the night in an effort to bring closure to this incident as quickly as possible," the Dale County Sheriff's Department said late Tuesday.

Authorities identified the slain bus driver as 66-year-old Charles Albert Poland Jr.

Late in the evening Tuesday, the shooter had the child in some sort of underground bunker or storm shelter, and authorities were communicating with him through a PVC pipe, CNN affiliate WSFA reported.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; hostage; jimmyleedykes; splc; vietnamvets
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UPDATED: Man shoots Alabama bus driver, takes child

The News Herald - ‎1 hour ago‎
Law enforcement personnel work a check point Wednesday, Jan. 30, 2013, in Midland City, Ala, below the home where Tuesday's school bus shooting suspect is barricaded in a bunker with a young child as hostage. Police, SWAT teams and negotiators were ...
 

S. Ala. bus driver has died; child remains hostage in bunker

WBRC - ‎12 hours ago‎
A south Alabama child remains the victim of a hostage situation, having spent hours in an underground bunker with a man who took him from a school bus Tuesday afternoon after fatally wounding the driver. The situation started around 3:40pm near the ...
 

 

1 posted on 01/30/2013 9:30:03 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is horrible! That poor child.........


2 posted on 01/30/2013 9:31:54 AM PST by basil (basil)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Prayers for the little boy, the slain bus driver, and that this ends well.


3 posted on 01/30/2013 9:32:37 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Many prayers for that lil’ one. Prayers for his family, as well. They must be terrified.


4 posted on 01/30/2013 9:36:58 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Was the driver armed?


5 posted on 01/30/2013 9:37:04 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Responsibility2nd

The hostage has a medical condition, and authorities overnight were able to send the child's medication down the pipe into the bunker and also determined that the boy had not been physically harmed, WDHN-TV reported.

 

6 posted on 01/30/2013 9:38:36 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
IF they are underground, and sealed in a bunker with a pvc pipe as access, why not try to gas them to knock them out?

Of course, anyone sick enough to do this, would also likely be sick enough to set booby-traps, or may even have a dead-man-switch-activated device.

Just wondering out loud.

7 posted on 01/30/2013 9:40:11 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: laweeks

If he was he would be alive.


8 posted on 01/30/2013 9:40:31 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Responsibility2nd

Another case where the police were powerless to protect an innocent child, and a public employee bus driver.

They tell us we should give up our guns, and trust the police to protect us. But every day, we see proof that the police cannot protect us.


9 posted on 01/30/2013 9:44:11 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Responsibility2nd
Authorities are not confirming any details about the suspect, including his name or if he has a relationship with the hostage, but a man identifying himself as Mike Creel said the suspect is his neighbor.

Creel said he spoke with some of the students who were on the bus and was told that the suspect boarded the vehicle as it stopped to drop off some students. Creel said students told him the suspect was trying to take two children from the bus but only managed to leave with one.  "He was only able to get a hold of one," Creel said the other riders told him, because the child fainted and was grabbed.

more...

10 posted on 01/30/2013 9:44:31 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: laweeks

If he was working for the school district, he is probably not allowed to have weapons on the bus. I just finished school bus training to be a sub for the local school district. I wonder what I would do in a similar situation - and pray nothing remotely like it happens.


11 posted on 01/30/2013 9:44:52 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“killed the driver who tried to save him”

God bless the heroic driver and may the Lord watch over that poor child.


12 posted on 01/30/2013 9:47:31 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Responsibility2nd
Three school systems have decided to cancel classes for Wednesday. Those systems are Dale County, Daleville City and Ozark City.

Why in tarnation would they do that?

13 posted on 01/30/2013 9:51:13 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The suspected gunman is identified as Jimmy Lee Dykes, a 60-something military veteran, a police source told ABC News. Dykes and the child are in an underground bunker behind his home.

~snip~

Dykes was scheduled to be in court today for a trial related to charges of menacing, according to court records obtained by WDHN.

more....

14 posted on 01/30/2013 9:52:40 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I read that the little boy has autism. Depending on the severity, and knowing how they get upset when their routines ate disrupted, it could be another kind of chaos in the bunker.

I do find it ridiculous that this situation is still ongoing and there is no progress. Prayers for all involved.


15 posted on 01/30/2013 9:55:10 AM PST by jodster36
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To: Responsibility2nd

I read that the little boy has autism. Depending on the severity, and knowing how they get upset when their routines ate disrupted, it could be another kind of chaos in the bunker.

I do find it ridiculous that this situation is still ongoing and there is no progress. Prayers for all involved.


16 posted on 01/30/2013 9:55:23 AM PST by jodster36
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To: Responsibility2nd
Looks like another LESSD (Law Enforcement Senior Skip Day).

Wonder how many hundreds of local, state and federal "authoritays" are there to grab this bad guy?

He's in a hole in the ground, so they might need 5-10 guys AT THE MOST. State po-lease & the Fibbies are there.

Teyh've got a helichopter, which is quite useful for getting a guy out of a hole in the ground. Not.

How come nobody ever demands to see the taxpayer tab for these fracking LEO block parties?

17 posted on 01/30/2013 9:56:14 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Responsibility2nd
More on the nut-job....

Sources tell Al.com the suspect, identified as 65-year-old Jimmy Lee Dykes, is a Vietnam veteran looking to gain attention to “air his grievances.” The Southern Poverty Law Center said today that Dale County Sheriff’s Investigator Tim Byrd told SPLC’s “Hatewatch” that Dykes has “anti-America” views.  They described him as a “survivalist” with ties to the antigovernment movement.

Negotiations with Dykes have been ongoing throughout the night via a PVC pipe leading into the bunker.

The ordeal began just after 3:30 p.m. Tuesday when authorities say Dykes boarded a school bus in Midland City and shot the driver several times. Dale County sheriff’s officials this morning confirmed the bus driver’s identity as 66-year-old Charles Albert Poland Jr., who has been a Dale County Board of Education bus driver since 2009.

It was not immediately clear what prompted Dykes to storm the bus, but his motives appear to be related to a menacing charge in December. That month, Dykes pointed a gun at his neighbor, James Edward Davis, who told the Dothan Eagle that Dykes accused him of driving on his yard. Dykes was scheduled to have a bench trial today on the charge, and an unidentified girl who Dykes released from the bus told reporters that Dykes was referring to his upcoming case.

more....

18 posted on 01/30/2013 9:57:57 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The SPLC has a complete dossier on the gunman.

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/01/30/police-hostage-taker-in-alabama-standoff-has-anti-america-views/

No surprise, huh?


19 posted on 01/30/2013 10:00:52 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: IYAS9YAS
IF they are underground, and sealed in a bunker with a pvc pipe as access, why not try to gas them to knock them out?

Anesthesia is a tricky business -- ask Michael Jackson's doctor. It only works in the movies and comic books. In that Russian movie theater, for example, more than half of the people ended up dead, terrorists and victims alike.

20 posted on 01/30/2013 10:04:30 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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I hope they don’t use this as another opportunity to push gun control. The suspect is obviously mentally ill. When he was arrested not to long ago, this should have been checked into and something more done about it. But instead of laws and regulations for the mentally ill being looked at and changed/enforced they focus on gun control. Its BS and its so maddening!

And by mentally ill, I don’t mean the regular depression, etc. that any person can suffer from, but I mean crazy and delusional like the suspect here.


21 posted on 01/30/2013 10:04:46 AM PST by jodster36
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I hope they don’t use this as another opportunity to push gun control. The suspect is obviously mentally ill. When he was arrested not to long ago, this should have been checked into and something more done about it. But instead of laws and regulations for the mentally ill being looked at and changed/enforced they focus on gun control. Its BS and its so maddening!

And by mentally ill, I don’t mean the regular depression, etc. that any person can suffer from, but I mean crazy and delusional like the suspect here.


22 posted on 01/30/2013 10:05:01 AM PST by jodster36
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To: kiryandil

You’re reading my mind...They’ve shut down multiple schools, they’ve brought in the feds, the state government, SWAT teams, helicopters, state police, county sheriffs, etc...

We’re talking one suspect here with one hostage....

One article I read implied there were *hundreds* of LE in the area.

You can bet the rent, with this hysterical government response, this will cost the tax payers 75 million...

But it’s quite a show!

Wait till the governor comes down and makes some speeches..


23 posted on 01/30/2013 10:06:10 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jiggyboy

Oops, for the record, about 1/4 of the victims in the theater died, most of the terrorists died.


24 posted on 01/30/2013 10:10:51 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The man who ignited a hostage standoff in southern Alabama when he shot a bus driver and took a child into an underground bunker is a “survivalist” who has ties to the antigovernment movement

Here ya go.....Better send in 300 more cops...And call the national guard!

I just read another article where there are 14 different government agencies on scene.

Amazing...

25 posted on 01/30/2013 10:11:13 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jiggyboy
In that Russian movie theater, for example, more than half of the people ended up dead, terrorists and victims alike.

True, I had forgotten about that. Thanks!

26 posted on 01/30/2013 10:11:26 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“They tell us we should give up our guns, and trust the police to protect us. But every day, we see proof that the police cannot protect us.”

When seconds count the police are only minutes away.


27 posted on 01/30/2013 10:12:19 AM PST by MeganC (“Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!”)
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To: dragnet2; kiryandil
Have no fear y'all. The ATF is on the scene.

Midland City shooting: ATF on site day after bus driver killed; 6-year-old hostage is autistic

What could possibly go wrong now?

/s

28 posted on 01/30/2013 10:12:55 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If anti-American views are what qualifies one for a dossier at the SPLC then they must have a warehouse full of stuff on most Democrats.


29 posted on 01/30/2013 10:14:40 AM PST by MeganC (“Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!”)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This will happen with increasing frequency because the press falls slobbering over themselves to gleefully report it to further their agendas.
The badguys see the glory and honor the press will give them, and for their fame and notoriety the badguys do even more acts because the press gives them immortality and an incentive to act to achieve the notoriety.


30 posted on 01/30/2013 10:16:29 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Dykes and the child are in an underground bunker behind his home.”
Could that possibly be a CELLAR, or maybe a STORM SHELTER?
What makes it a bunker?


31 posted on 01/30/2013 10:16:34 AM PST by 9422WMR
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To: dragnet2

they are idiots


32 posted on 01/30/2013 10:16:59 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: kiryandil

Indeed. The enterprising terrorist or evil criminal genius would be taking notes on how to get every single law enforcement entity within fifty miles away from his intended target.

But if you don’t want to put your henchman in mortal danger, just call 911 from the mall and say you saw a guy molesting a child. I saw literally half of all the squad cars of the San Jose PD on that report a couple of years ago.


33 posted on 01/30/2013 10:18:42 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: MeganC

SPLC specializes in promoting the new definition of “anti-American views” — Constitution, limited government, etc.


34 posted on 01/30/2013 10:21:34 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: 9422WMR

What makes it a bunker?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From what I’ve read - it’s sealed off, inaccessable, and probably booby-trapped. They had to shove the poor kid’s daily meds in through a PVC pipe. Dykes is reported to have said he ain’t coming out alive.


35 posted on 01/30/2013 10:22:38 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Have no fear y'all. The ATF is on the scene.

That child's chances of survival just went way down.
36 posted on 01/30/2013 10:25:39 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: Responsibility2nd
It's just incredible...they have the fed government, state government, county government, government helicopters, fire department, ATF, SWAT teams...Hundreds standing around drinking coffee...

Shooting some bus driver and taking little kid hostage, this guy is obviously a mental case...

Wouldn't it make more sense just to have the local sheriff and fire department/paramedics on hand to see if they could talk this guy into releasing the kid and to come out?

Bet the rent, with SPLC, the feds, state and county governments etc involved and next thing will be the mayor and governor on TV giving speeches, turning this into some political extravaganza...

It's just nuts...

They do the same thing out west...

37 posted on 01/30/2013 10:26:20 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: stansblugrassgrl

Concealed means concealed. I would worry about the fall-out after I had to use it.


38 posted on 01/30/2013 10:26:41 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Boogieman
God bless the heroic driver and may the Lord watch over that poor child.

If there was a Medal of Honor for civilians, no one would be more deserving than that driver.

39 posted on 01/30/2013 10:32:23 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: laweeks

I think you know the answer to that. If the driver was armed the kidnapper would have chosen another, more risky method. This was the easy way.


40 posted on 01/30/2013 10:34:24 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: dragnet2

I wonder what the article means by “...the antigovernment movement....”. Could that be, like, FReepers?


41 posted on 01/30/2013 10:34:49 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Responsibility2nd

If the bus driver had a gun....He’d be alive...


42 posted on 01/30/2013 10:35:49 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: dragnet2

They’ve already labled this nut-job a ‘survivorist’. It’s just a matter of time before they release info that he’s a right wing prepper. That’s he’s a gun nut republican who listens to Rush, Beck and watches Fox News.

Gee, I wonder what his FReep name is?

/s


43 posted on 01/30/2013 10:36:30 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: NEMDF
I wonder what the article means by “...the antigovernment movement....”. Could that be, like, FReepers?

If you are here, it's likely you're on the list.
44 posted on 01/30/2013 10:40:15 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: NEMDF

You seem paranoid...

BTW, I just can’t imagine why half the country has got an absolute belly full of controlling punitive government...The other half would feel the same way, but they consist of millions on the fat tax paid government payroll and those with their hands out.


45 posted on 01/30/2013 10:42:37 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NEMDF

In the view of the SPLC, that/ this is exactly what they mean.


46 posted on 01/30/2013 10:46:05 AM PST by sport
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To: Responsibility2nd
I still don't understand why they've haven't flown in 3 or 4 SEAL teams, a full Brigade Team of the 82nd Airborne, and elements of the 10th Mountain Division.

And don't forget a dozen or so tanks from the 1st Armored Division...

47 posted on 01/30/2013 10:53:36 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: 9422WMR
“Dykes and the child are in an underground bunker behind his home.” Could that possibly be a CELLAR, or maybe a STORM SHELTER? What makes it a bunker?

It's CNN.

The Drama Queens.

.

48 posted on 01/30/2013 10:54:40 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: 9422WMR

It’s probably a storm cellar. Handy if you live in tornado country and you don’t have a basement. I don’t believe anything SPLC says about anybody.


49 posted on 01/30/2013 11:14:41 AM PST by virgil
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To: Responsibility2nd

I just saw a report on the Dothan TV station.

The District Attorney asked the media and anyone else to leave and sure enough you could see them leaving until only the TV reporter was still there. I assume she will leave too.


50 posted on 01/30/2013 11:43:02 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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