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MSNBC's Morning Joe Allows Ex- Playboy CEO to Peddle Climate Change Link To Gun Crime
NewsBusters.org ^ | January 30, 2013 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 01/30/2013 3:55:36 PM PST by Kaslin

Hours before the Senate Judiciary Committee held Newtown-inspired gun control hearings, MSNBC's Morning Joe program brought on former Playboy chairwoman and CEO Christie Hefner to warn that warmer weather in Chicago has been a contributing factor in the number of gun deaths in the Windy City. "[W]e are having this climate change effect that is driving" young men in Chicago to commit 500 homicides in 2012 she insisted.

For his part, quasi-conservative host Joe Scarborough made no attempt to press Hefner on this outrageous claim, although he did mildly mock it. In doing so, however, he dismissed conservative bloggers with a lame stereotype:

CHRISTIE HEFNER: Well, to answer the question about is it higher? Yes. Last year we hit a record number of murders from guns. And this year we are already outpacing last year's numbers. Now, there are contributing factors that are not under anybody's control and may seem odd, but it is factually true. One of them is actually the weather. There is a dramatic increase in gun violence when it is warmer. And we are having this climate change effect that is driving that. But I do think -- and from people I talked to in Chicago--

JOE SCARBOROUGH: By the way, Chris – Christie, can I just stop you and say conservative bloggers across America, thank you for saying that climate change is responsible for the rising murder rates in Chicago. You have just made a lot of people in their basements of their mothers' homes very happy.

HEFNER: I don't believe that's exactly what I said. I said there are a number of contributing factors and a correlation between heat waves and gun violence.

The funny thing is Christie contradicted herself.  She said climate change was affecting the epidemic violence gripping Chicago, but said that she only meant heat waves.  What have climate warmists talked about to support their claim?  They use the rising global temperatures, which have stalled for sixteen years, to back up their claim.  ABC News used did a segment on 2012 being the "hottest year" to promote climate change initiatives.   So, in this little exchange we see an unhinged theory that climate change causes us to kill people, news hosts failing to press Hefner on it, and the gun control debate taking a rather bizarre turn into climatology. 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; christiehefner; crime; guncontrol; guns; joescarborough; journalisticissues; morningjoe; pmsnbc; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/30/2013 3:55:46 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I’m guilty too...I farted and I’m sure that set off a wave of gun violence in Chicago...this is confession hour isn’t it?

grasping at air...literally...


2 posted on 01/30/2013 3:57:51 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Kaslin

Why do they not teach post hoc ergo proprter hoc in school anymore? Or fallacies in general?

3 posted on 01/30/2013 4:00:17 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: Kaslin

this will go into the “You can’t make this stuff up “file!


4 posted on 01/30/2013 4:00:33 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Kaslin

And pornography contributes to child molestation, sexual assaults and sex trafficking.

So, what is your point, Christine?


5 posted on 01/30/2013 4:00:47 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Kaslin
quasi-conservative host Joe Scarborough

"Quasi" is not a synonym for "pseudo."

6 posted on 01/30/2013 4:01:36 PM PST by FredZarguna (Because EVERY day is kid's day!)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I mean, Miss HEFNER.


7 posted on 01/30/2013 4:01:42 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: freedumb2003

They only discuss fallacies in the context of condom placement.


8 posted on 01/30/2013 4:03:20 PM PST by FredZarguna (Because EVERY day is kid's day!)
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To: Kaslin

These people are shamelessly desperate


9 posted on 01/30/2013 4:05:03 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Kaslin

Last year was one of the warmest on record for our county in Western North Dakota. Nobody was murdered. The last murder in this county was in 1987 or so. It was in the dead of winter and the victim was not from here. The killer was not from here either. At the minute it is 3 below zero and the wind is whipping at 25 MPH. Too darned cold to kill any one by any means.


10 posted on 01/30/2013 4:05:40 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Kaslin

Faux conservative Scarborough is a genuine a$$.


11 posted on 01/30/2013 4:06:02 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Kaslin

Why doesn’t Christie Heffner shut up and stick to the things she knows best, tits and ass?

Guess she thinks that any temporary increase in temperature is an example of a “hot flash” by Mother Earth. Wonder what she would call a temporary cold spell? The Apocalypse?

I’m also waiting for her to come out as a supporter of traditional marriage. Waiting, waiting.

I wonder if she agrees with her father’s pathological habit of marrying young women just for sex? Gee, Obama Family Values from Chicago. Who’d thunk?

As for Joe Scarborough. He’s an example of a once decent Republican whose brain has been turned to liberal mush by his association with the mentally ill leftists who infest MSNBC.

Don’t think that even radical brain surgery can save him now.

[Might as well get in as many shots at the Left as I can re one story about the wingnuts of the media]


12 posted on 01/30/2013 4:11:46 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Kaslin

Agree with the article but NB needs to do a bit of proofreading.


13 posted on 01/30/2013 4:14:04 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: freedumb2003

Its always good to get the perspective of one of America’s leading pimps on matters of national importance. Who else but Joe, where else but MSNBC.


14 posted on 01/30/2013 4:14:19 PM PST by allendale
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To: freedumb2003

Looks like Pittsburgh had better do some real hiring if they want to win any pennants this century.


15 posted on 01/30/2013 4:15:14 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Kaslin

This is the dumbest generation.


16 posted on 01/30/2013 4:17:00 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I’m so glad I let my subscription expire. Nevermind that is was more advertisements than actual content, pictorials and otherwise.


17 posted on 01/30/2013 4:19:53 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: muir_redwoods

No, they are just unabashedly stupid.

There is a difference.


18 posted on 01/30/2013 4:22:07 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Kaslin

Just think how bad it would be if AK 47s hadn’t been designed in one of coldest climates in the world. (How am I doing at liberal logic?)


19 posted on 01/30/2013 4:25:08 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: jazusamo
Faux conservative Scarborough is a genuine a$$.

You may be right, but I'll bet he's just a ratings whore, like pierced moron and that bag of fartgas, shultz.

20 posted on 01/30/2013 4:25:38 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: CrazyIvan

LOL,

I like your thinking. But let’s put on our moon bat helmets and try to conjure up some whoopie here.

It was so cold, they made the AK-47 knowing that it would “heat things up” and CAUSE global warming, thereby making Siberia a less frozen tundra!

Rooskies are sharp like that.

Be creative!

Hey, its no more simpleminded than Hefner’s air headed musings. (Obviously, she’s been hanging out with bimbos for so long, she has regressed into one.)


21 posted on 01/30/2013 4:33:27 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Looks like Pittsburgh had better do some real hiring if they want to win any pennants this century.

Not really. All they need to do is stop exhaling (creating carbon dioxide) and the number of pirates should start going back up.

22 posted on 01/30/2013 4:35:59 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

At one time Playboy had the best and longest interviews with people in journalism. I saved a lot of them because of the information found in them, esp. that of Tom Hayden, Phillip Agee, and other leftists.

Really good cartoons and jokes.

Shannon Tweed rules. See her on the cover of one issue in the early 80’s. Absolutely beautiful woman.

Today PB would probably put Helen Thomas in as their centerfold.

Hmm.. I could use that to scare away rats and burglars.

Copyright that, Dano!


23 posted on 01/30/2013 4:39:51 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: freedumb2003

Teaching logic will be a hate crime within 10 years.


24 posted on 01/30/2013 4:47:40 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: Kaslin

I have no objection to allowing gun conrtol and global warming advocates to demonstrate their stupidity and embarrass themselves and their stupid causes.


25 posted on 01/30/2013 4:48:08 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Kaslin

Christie, stick to what you know best...keeping Daddy supplied with Bunnies.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 4:49:50 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: palmer

I have only seen one Pirates baseball game (I was on TDY to Pittsburgh for work). They were playing the Cleveland Indians (or Chicago, I don’t remember which) in the old stadium and the fans were razzing Albert Belle big time.

Then he got up to bat. He hit a ball so hard (hit the second level wall at the seats to my right and down one level), that the stadium literally shook.

There was NO MORE razzing after that!

That’s my Pirates story and I’m sticking to it.


27 posted on 01/30/2013 4:51:12 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Kaslin
I'm sorry but I agree with Christie. Who the hell wants to go out gangbanging in the snow when the temps are in the teens?

Chicago needs to pray for snow, not gun control........

28 posted on 01/30/2013 4:51:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Kaslin

The only question is which hypocrite has the bigger carbon footprint?

Pray for America


29 posted on 01/30/2013 4:55:59 PM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: Kaslin

I’m starting to believe Joe Scarborough was the banjo playing kid in Deliverance!


30 posted on 01/30/2013 4:57:45 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Kaslin; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

It’s tied to the increase in silicon breast implants, Christie.

What was the question again?


31 posted on 01/30/2013 5:32:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Kaslin

Except for the boobs, most 5th graders could give her a run for the money. That being said, she seems exceedingly intellectual when compared to most of the MSM staffers.


32 posted on 01/30/2013 5:36:16 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I bet she has a securiy detail or has a few guns herself
in her very large expensive home. If the bitch doesn’t want a gun than don’t get one but leave the rest of us alone.


33 posted on 01/30/2013 5:41:44 PM PST by funfan
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To: funfan

I am not able to decipher your post.

I promise I pressed one for English.


34 posted on 01/30/2013 6:02:17 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I meant to say Ms. Hefner is a HYPOCRITE.


35 posted on 01/30/2013 6:17:04 PM PST by funfan
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To: Kaslin
[W]e are having this climate change effect that is driving" young men in Chicago to commit 500 homicides in 2012 she insisted.

In another study it was found that homocide rates and ice cream consumption rates showed a similar pattern of increase and decrease throughout 2012. Hence, the need for the Obozo administration to begin working on drafting legislation to place controls on ice cream sales./s

36 posted on 01/30/2013 6:19:01 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; freedumb2003

>>>Looks like Pittsburgh had better do some real hiring<<<

Zoooom!

Right over my head!

I thought Max had choppered into the middle of the wrong thread.

But the follow-up made me LOL...


37 posted on 01/30/2013 6:21:25 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Kaslin
I clicked past Morning Joe this morning when Christie Hefner was speaking about gun control, and my thought was: WTF? What does Christie Hefner have to do about gun control? Then I realized Joe can't get any real guests on this topic. Joe has less clout than Piers Morgan.

And if Joe replaced Mika Brzezinski with a box of rocks, he would increase the IQ of the show staff by a good 20 points.

38 posted on 01/30/2013 6:36:08 PM PST by magellan
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To: funfan

Well said. (I figured your autocorrect had kicked in.)


39 posted on 01/30/2013 6:59:49 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: freedumb2003

If they taught logic, the students might apply it to the Left’s agenda.


40 posted on 01/30/2013 8:31:17 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kaslin.
...former Playboy chairwoman and CEO Christie Hefner to warn that warmer weather in Chicago has been a contributing factor in the number of gun deaths in the Windy City. "[W]e are having this climate change effect that is driving" young men in Chicago to commit 500 homicides in 2012 she insisted... Last year we hit a record number of murders from guns. And this year we are already outpacing last year's numbers. Now, there are contributing factors that are not under anybody's control and may seem odd, but it is factually true. One of them is actually the weather. There is a dramatic increase in gun violence when it is warmer. And we are having this climate change effect that is driving that.

41 posted on 01/30/2013 8:59:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: freedumb2003
Why do they not teach post hoc ergo proprter hoc in school anymore? Or fallacies in general?

Duh, cause it's the NEA in the classrooms and it's their commie fellow travelers that need to USE those fallacies! Why would they make life harder for their butt buddies?

42 posted on 01/30/2013 9:12:09 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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