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Syrian tank brews up in Darya district of Damascus after being hit
Youtube ^ | Jan 25, 2013 | Norasaman23

Posted on 01/30/2013 9:21:50 PM PST by Zhang Fei

The impact is from some kind of anti-tank weapon. Can't tell if it's been doctored, but the footage is pretty dramatic:


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assad; fsa; syria

1 posted on 01/30/2013 9:22:02 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

Let’s try this again, shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAwwa-OaHWA


2 posted on 01/30/2013 9:24:46 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

WTH..., where did that Hodad come from with his clothes blown to rags...?


3 posted on 01/30/2013 9:27:50 PM PST by freebilly
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To: Zhang Fei

I never saw anything incoming it just suddenly blew up. And who was the guy that ran away from near it later? I didn’t get that either, maybe there was an accident inside the tank and a shell exploded.


4 posted on 01/30/2013 9:28:30 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Zhang Fei
That's what happens when you use a high explosive anti-tank round to hit a tank fully loaded with high explosive rounds for the main gun, and machine gun ammunition.
5 posted on 01/30/2013 9:30:17 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

It looked like it blew up from inside to me, maybe that wierd guy running away later in the video had dropped a granade inside it somehow.


6 posted on 01/30/2013 9:31:43 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: freebilly
WTH..., where did that Hodad come from with his clothes blown to rags...?

My guess is that he was standing behind the tank. No way anyone could have gotten out of that tank alive.

Mark

7 posted on 01/30/2013 9:31:43 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Another thing I don’t get is - where the heck was the supporting infantry?


8 posted on 01/30/2013 9:31:53 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yep...it almost looks like a main gun round cooked off in the tube with the breech open, and the rest of the ammo in turret storage went up.


9 posted on 01/30/2013 9:32:27 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Zhang Fei

In slo mo looks like the round in the breech cooked off or was otherwise set off prior to closure. There is fire coming out of the tube same time as the explosion in the turret.


10 posted on 01/30/2013 9:33:20 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Joe 6-pack

For their sakes, I hope whoever was in that tank died instantly.


11 posted on 01/30/2013 9:36:35 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I think you’re right. Cooked off a round or fired out of battery somehow.


12 posted on 01/30/2013 9:37:20 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Zhang Fei

Those look like t-72’s. If memory serves, the main battle gun’s ammo is stored in the rear. As another poster pointed out, one might have gone off in the breach prematurely. That could have definitely cooked off the rest (I don’t think the warhead is “armed” until spun out of the barrel, but it has been a while)


13 posted on 01/30/2013 9:37:31 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Here’s a frame by frame video. Looks like an external projectile ruined the tank’s day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKbfuwMc66E

Also, looks like the dude who ran away from it was crew that got blown out of the turret, which does happen occasionally.


14 posted on 01/30/2013 9:39:11 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I never saw anything incoming it just suddenly blew up. And who was the guy that ran away from near it later? I didn’t get that either, maybe there was an accident inside the tank and a shell exploded.

The lack of people and activity around the tanks makes me wonder if they were abandoned after they ran out of diesel and then blown up by the rebels.

15 posted on 01/30/2013 9:40:08 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Frame by frame looks like an anti tank round hits the turret, and then some of the explosion vents out the main gun barrel.


16 posted on 01/30/2013 9:41:08 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: MarkL; Zhang Fei; Joe 6-pack; going hot

See post 14.


17 posted on 01/30/2013 9:41:26 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Looks like ragtags demolishing abandoned/captured equipment for video. Or maybe gubmint troops do it to prevent passing tanks to jihadis.


18 posted on 01/30/2013 9:41:53 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Spktyr

Definitely day ruining.


19 posted on 01/30/2013 9:44:37 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Zhang Fei

After the first tank gets blown up, the track commander pops up out of the background tank and the foreground tank elevates its main gun, traverses left a bit, depresses the gun a bit then traverses left more. I think those tanks are live and not abandoned.


20 posted on 01/30/2013 9:45:32 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
After the first tank gets blown up, the track commander pops up out of the background tank and the foreground tank elevates its main gun, traverses left a bit, depresses the gun a bit then traverses left more. I think those tanks are live and not abandoned.

I'm flabbergasted that there's no supporting infantry milling about in the background or rushing to the stricken tank's aid. These guys are naked. given that there are tall buildings that provide great vantage points for anti-tank missile crews.

21 posted on 01/30/2013 9:48:20 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Watch what happened to the ejected crew member once he starts running. There’s puffs of dust around and near him that look like someone’s shooting at him. My guess is the accompanying infantry (if any) have taken shelter in nearby buildings - in fact, that’s probably why he was running to that specific building instead of closer cover.


22 posted on 01/30/2013 9:52:30 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; Joe 6-pack; going hot
The tank was hit by an RPG-29.

some_text There is some additional information, including diagrams of the rocket's path, here.

23 posted on 01/30/2013 9:54:43 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: freebilly; TexasFreeper2009; MarkL

From inside the tank - he was blown out of the hatch right as the ammo cooked off. You can see him land 13 seconds in.


24 posted on 01/30/2013 9:54:55 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

I just don’t see an incoming projectile, but I do see the arm of the man moving under the tank doing something in the rear just before the explosion. He falls over later.


25 posted on 01/30/2013 10:03:14 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s not an arm, that’s some sort of plastic or debris if you look at it on a big screen. Frame by frame shows an RPG-29 screaming in on the tank.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 10:07:24 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“For their sakes, I hope whoever was in that tank died instantly.”

Sorry, can’t feel the same way about the f’n Syrian islamofacists...and yes, I know they were ‘just soldiers’...BS


27 posted on 01/30/2013 10:13:25 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: freebilly

Watch it again. There was a person moving around from underneath the tank on the left side (rear?) of the tank prior to the explosion. It appeared to me also that the explosion came from within or under the tank, and not from an anti-tank missle.


28 posted on 01/30/2013 10:14:05 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: JerseyanExile

The link you provided also shows two guys providing cover for a Hezbollah anti-tank guy as he lines up a shot against a Merkava. It wouldn’t surprise me if this was how a lot of “civilians” ended up becoming “collateral damage”. They weren’t really “collateral damage” - they were actively helping combatants by shielding them from discovery while they prepared to ambush their targets.


29 posted on 01/30/2013 10:24:29 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

It blowed up real good.


30 posted on 01/30/2013 10:36:31 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Michael Barnes
until spun out of the barrel

T72 usually has a smooth bore gun.

31 posted on 01/30/2013 10:38:58 PM PST by the_daug
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To: Michael Barnes
until spun out of the barrel

T72 usually has a smooth bore gun.

32 posted on 01/30/2013 10:41:58 PM PST by the_daug
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To: Zhang Fei

Is that title racist? “brews” up?


33 posted on 01/31/2013 12:24:22 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: JerseyanExile

Well, a pretty detailed analysis at link. Still it sounds near impossible if this guy is a survived gunner. He has to become a monk to pray until the end of his life.


34 posted on 01/31/2013 1:39:17 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“I never saw anything incoming it just suddenly blew up. And who was the guy that ran away from near it later? I didn’t get that either, maybe there was an accident inside the tank and a shell exploded.”

There was a slight “woosh” of an incoming missile. It apparently hit the side of the tank dead center of the video screen. This means the camerawork and the missile were coordinated. I’m not familiar with that model tank, but perhaps there is an escape hatch. If the crewman was in the tank when it was hit he was badly burned. I’d guess what appears to be a sweater is actually burned flesh.

Tanks are not used in the Middle East the way they are used by the west. In the west you’d never send in a tank without infantry to protect it. In the ME tanks are mobile pill boxes primarily used in crowd control. Tactical thinking does not appear to be a strong point.

When Israel last went into Lebanon they lost a classified number of Murkava tanks. Every other Arab had a $10,000 Iranian supplied, wire-guided anti-tank missile. I read where the Israelis plan on taking all 1500 Murkava’s out of service as soon as they’re replaced. The replacement looks to be an RPV about the size of an old VW Beetle.

The US Army’s persistent attempts to rid itself of the Abrams and the Israeli decision indicate that the era of the MBT is drawing to a close. General Dynamics and their minions in the Senate have succeeded in gaining contracts and funding to keep Lima, Oh. (the tank facility) open and working to provide Egypt and others with tanks. All tanks, no matter how heavy, are vulnerable from the rear. The armor is focused for attack. If you retreat you run the tank backwards. But that presupposes a battle line where the enemy is in front of you; not above in an RPV or behind dressed as a civilian but with a wire-guided missile.


35 posted on 01/31/2013 2:32:05 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Joe 6-pack; going hot; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Yeah, the second guy who tried to climb out wasn’t able to make it all the way.


36 posted on 01/31/2013 3:44:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: exnavy
Is that title racist? “brews” up?

I couldn't say, but it appears a rebel anti-tank team found a chink in the tank's armor.

37 posted on 01/31/2013 10:24:05 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

” ...brews up?”

WWII military slang for explodes and burns. Probably British in origin.


38 posted on 01/31/2013 11:20:31 AM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: VietVet
WWII military slang for explodes and burns. Probably British in origin.

Precisely. There's a sense of fermentation in the way the ammo gradually cooks off, starting with the tank shells, followed by the machine gun rounds. I saw the phrase a lot while reading accounts of WWII campaigns. Once penetrated with explosives, tanks become crematoriums.

39 posted on 01/31/2013 12:23:42 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: VietVet
WWII military slang for explodes and burns. Probably British in origin.

I used the phrase figuring that anyone who's spent any time reading military history would know about it. I guess it's a little esoteric for some readers.

40 posted on 01/31/2013 12:27:32 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

A “Syrian tank brews up” ... ?

“Brews up”?

Can’t be. Muslims do not drink alcohol.


41 posted on 01/31/2013 5:09:28 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: GladesGuru
Muslims do not drink alcohol.

Alawites are allowed to drink alcohol. Ergo Alawites are probably not real Muslims. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.

42 posted on 01/31/2013 5:24:03 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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