Skip to comments.Mother of VA Tech shooting survivor: NRA shouldn’t be part of gun safety debate
Posted on 01/30/2013 9:46:42 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
The mother of one of the survivors of the Virginia Tech shooting told elected leaders to stand up to the NRA, a group she argues doesnt even deserve to be at the table in the gun safety debate.
Lori Haas joined PoliticsNation Wednesday after attending the contentious Senate hearing which featured testimony from gun control advocates, gun rights supporters, and experts in law enforcement. NRA head Wayne LaPierre voiced some of the strongest opposition to new regulations, including shooting down a proposal to close the background check loophole.
We are hopeful and impressed with some of our leadership on the hill but frankly we need leadership from all of our representatives, Haas said. It shouldnt take much courage to stand up to the NRA. Courage is facing down the barrel of a gun, and my daughter did that and there were 16 other injured students at Virginia Tech who did that.
The NRA should not even be at the table, she said. I dont see reports from them, I dont see studies from them, I dont see activities from them, I dont see policies from them that contribute to the public safety debate.
Haas, who joined the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence as an organizer in her home state of Virginia in 2010, pushed back against those who think argue regulations like background checks attack legal gun owners in America. I find it very, very telling that the commentary is always youre targeting law abiding citizens, she said. No, were not targeting law abiding citizens, were targeting criminals, dangerous individuals, felons, domestic abusers, terrorists. We want to stop those individuals from getting a firearm and harming our neighbors, our friends, our communities.
We need to do a background check on all buyers on all gun sales.
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Freeper TheConservator: Mother of VA Tech shooting survivor shouldn’t be part of gun control debate.
Lori Haas can STFU. Who the hell does she think she is denying 1st Amendment rights to anyone???
leftists do not believe in debate or discussion, they do not believe in freedom of opinion or thought or association either.
I guess it's because she's never bothered looking for any of these. Simply put, the NRA is the #1 gun safety and training group in the USA, they sponsor the award winning "Eddie the Eagle" gun safety programs for children, and they train and certify range safety officers, and put on law enforcement training seminars all over the country.
My guess is she gets all her information on the NRA from the NY Slimes and MSNBC.
She only believes what the liberal news tells her... all too common.
So according to her, only liberals can be part of the debate????
Lady, you are hysterical. So it is you who needs to be ignored.
Like the BATFE? Pwners of F&F, Waco and Ruby Ridge (among other "actions" like their latest escapades in Milwaukee)
“Courage is facing down the barrel of a gun, and my daughter did that...”
Seriously? She makes it sound like her daughter confronted the gunner. Maybe so, but without a gun or other weapon and a decent chance to stop the gunner, that sounds more foolish than courageous. There’s nothing courageous about getting shot down while trying to hide or flee.
Also, why is a victim’s mother suddenly qualified to set policy for an entire nation of 300+ million people. Are we going to survey all of parents and make our decision based that? What if I find one of the parents not only wants the NRA to teach classes in the schools but thinks all teachers should be armed? Should we do that? Ridiculous!
We realize you are trying to target criminals. But though the laws keep changing somehow the black market stays black. All you do with idiotic closings of “loopholes” is make it harder for non-criminals to get guns. That’s a fact, despite what it is you have in mind to do.
Not only is she “hysterical”....she’s daft.
yes, life is so much better when you don’t have to listen to arguments from people who disagree with you. Just ask Obama.
“Are we going to survey all of parents”
No, just her and Trayvon Martin’s mom (because her son looked like Obama’s make-believe son).
The NRA shouldn’t be part of the gun debate?
Planned parenthood shouldnot be part of the abortion debate...
The ACLU should not be part of the relgion debate...
The NEA should not be part of the education debate...
PETA should not be part of the animal rights debate...
Doctors should not be part of the assisted suicide debate...
The NAACP should not be part of the race debate...
The NLRB should not be part of the employment rights debate...
The NFL should not be part of the TBI debate...
The FAA should not be part of the aviation safety debate...
Withe complete respect for her loss, she is being a useful idiot on her emotion! Shame on the people prompting her to do this.
just a small step up from the Left swooning over a letter that a 6 year old wrote to Obama to keep other kids from being killed by guns
Where are the kid’s letters wanting to make the White Hut a weapons free and fence free zone?
Typical leftist spewing her idiocy..you can always figure out which one is a leftist by the stupid things they say..Hey Haas..if you don’t like this country move to Venezuela they will be happy to have you
Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.
I believe these panels should only be made up of people who were in these shootings in these stupid-ass gun-free zones who wished they had an equivalent force weapon to defend themselves with.
I guess the bit about Cho’s mental state was lost on this woman.
Moms do not get to tear away people’s GOD GIVEN right to self-defense that the Constitution ACKNOWLEDGES and GUARANTEES TO UPHOLD.
I don’t care whose mom you are. I seriously don’t.
They seem to know that in order to eliminate the 2nd amendment they have to restrict the 1st amendment.
Tublecane, my FRiend, the propaganda is so obvious I wonder how anyone can miss it, but I have to admit. The left is the master of the lie. They make distortion of the truth an art.
Too many Americans get their news from the state-run media. By that I don’t mean government directly controls the media. I mean the media and government are ideological bedfellows who see the news as a way to shape thought.
On behalf of all those killed by drunk drivers, I hope this asshat has completely disassociated herself with everything remotely connected to the spirits industry.
And since when has the NRA ever made money off of gun sales?
Can’t say the same thing for Planned Parenthood and abortion. Can’t say the same thing about the NEA. Can’t say the same thing about the NAARCP.
You’re absolutely right, S.A.M. If the left doesn’t like it, amend the constitution. Until then, I have nothing more to say to any of the gun grabbers. While I sympathize with the mom, she’s not the only parent of a victim. Even then, those parents aren’t more important than 300+ million other Americans. We have an equal say, and I say not another inch. If they don’t like it, start working on a constitutional amendment.
The sad part is that it is the left, that is handing out the mental booze and the keys.
To this Mother. My cousin was killed at age 18 by a drunk driver. Why haven’t they taken these people off the road?
Since the NRA represents many of the millions of gun owners in America and has done more to promote safe usage of guns then the Government has, this is a stupid statement on her part.
And I had a friend that fell off the back of a car going 25mph horsing around (no booze) and died.
Ban fooling around!
Lord knows there is no percentage in TEACHING COMMON SENSE!!
I find it very, very telling that the commentary is always youre targeting law abiding citizens, she said. No, were not targeting law abiding citizens, were targeting criminals, dangerous individuals, felons, domestic abusers, terrorists
Sure lady. Terrosits go to the local Gander Mountain or Cabelas and buy their weapons and submit to a background check........
I am sorry for your loss but do not allow your grief to make you stupid...........
I dont see reports from them, I dont see studies from them, [the NRA] I dont see activities from them, I dont see policies from them that contribute to the public safety debate.
Then you’re willfully blind, because the NRA has produced numerous studies over the years as to gun safety, as have many other organizations. And, let’s just suppose the NRA handed you a nicely bound volume of their studies. Here, I will outghoul you. You’d pour red paint on it as a means of protesting its very existence.
Sorry for your loss mrs. Haas but, you can’t get where you want by shutting up, shouting down or making 50% of America non particpants in the discussions to stem violence.
You need our input. We have ideas, strategies and are willing partners in the effort to mitigate violence of all types.
Well, lady, victims and their families shouldn’t have a place at the table either then because you’re too emotionally damaged to make rational decisions.
A "survivor" probably means anyone who was on campus that day.
No sympathy is called for.
Correction: Her daughter was injured. But not killed.
In school settings where mass shootings have occurred, where a firearm was used against the killer, the killer only averaged 2 victims. Where firearms were forbidden and the police were called, the average body count was 14. When an armed citizen confronted the shooter with deadly force, the shooter either surrendered or killed himself. Scapegoating the firearms and their owners, people who are not and will never be a threat, is just EVIL.
She knew her daughter was going to class in a building never designed with numbers of students in mind.
She knew ........
There's a percentage of responsibility here she doesn't want to address ~ I'd keep her out of the debate as well (if we are going to keep people out of the debate).
The person who shot people on the VA Tech Campus was already in violation of campus regulations. Discharging that firearm on campus is a violation of campus policy, and probably some local laws as well. Shooting people violates the law. Do you seriously think just one more law would have tipped the balance and stopped a madman from slaughtering students and staff there? Really?
Since the NRA runs training programs for Law Enforcement, as well as firearm safety, I think their presence in any debate to promote public safety vis-a-vis firearms is highly germane.
Your misguided ranting, simply on the basis of your daughter's misfortune, however, is not.
I pray you find more constructive ways to deal with your grief. As a parent, grandparent, and great grandparent, I'd be upset if one of ours got hurt, too. I would look for solutions which might have a real effect, though, and so far the only meaningful deterrents to maniacs have been forceful--on occasion, lethally so.
Disarming in the face of that threat is not the way to become more safe, quite the opposite.
Have a better day,
That's right. We only want to hear the emotional, irrational side of the argument. Who can stand to listen to that reason and logic stuff? /s
We need to do a background check on all buyers on all gun sales.
Once again I ask - What difference would that have made?
There was nothing stopping him from passing a background check because he had no criminal record. Nothing about his mental state would have been a factor in the approval process.
If she doesn't see them, it's because she's refusing to look. Her ignorance is culpable.
Whe the goal is to eliminate the 2A, I don't think fidelity to the 1A means much.
I thought Lindsey Graham did quite well in that hearing also.
The government should not be at the table. Read the founders’ words on the second amendment - it is to keep the government in check. Why would anybody want the very entity for which the second amendment protects us from to have any say whatsoever in the issue?
Don’t let the fox guard unarmed hens.