Skip to comments.New England fishermen say new regs mean ruin
Posted on 01/30/2013 11:29:50 PM PST by Olog-hai
Minutes after New England fishery managers took a vote that cast doubt on the historic industrys future, the prospects most clear to Gloucester fishermen Paul Vitale were his own.
Im bankrupt. Thats it, said the 40-year-old father of three. Im all done. The boats going up for sale.
The New England Fishery Management Council on Wednesday approved a year-to-year cut of 77 percent on the Gulf of Maine cod limit and 61 percent for Georges Bank cod. The cuts come on top of a slew of other reductions, ranging from 10 to 71 percent, on the catch of other bottom-dwelling groundfish species, such as haddock and flounder.
Fishermen say now theyre staring at industry collapse because theyve been left with far too few fish for most boats to make a living.
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The government controls fuel, food, healthcare, communications and now they want your guns. See a pattern?
“I’ve done everything they told me to do, and all of the sudden I come up here to a meeting today, and they’re going to send me in a coffin out of this place,” said New Bedford fisherman Carlos Rafael”
You don’t understand, Carlos, this benefits the “collective” in modern progressive parlance.
The same assholes that are bringing us global warming.
Hate to say it but they probably voted dem.
Who do you typically vote for Paul? Democrats maybe? along with the rest of your New England buddies. Maybe, in retrospect, that wasn’t such a good idea, huh? Pretty sure we warned you about voting for Democrats.
Guess they shouldn’t have voted liberal Democrat.
Oh well - they pay their taxes. Their government is broke. :)
If they are registered Democrats the deserve what they get!
Still, the democrats, mainstream media, unions are going to make it work here.
Yet they most likely voted for Democrats.
While I feel for anyone getting squeezed by the government, I must admit I no longer feel bad for those who voted democrat. Damn fools voted for their own demise.
The same thing has already happened to their neighbors to the north. Canadian authorities shut down the fishing industry in Newfoundland, which had supported the locals for generations, due in part to foreign factory ships looting the fishing grounds. As these local songs tell:
Where Did The Fisherman Go?
She’s gone boys, She’s gone
Will they lie there ever more?
Liberal bottom dwellers are just protecting their aquatic cousins.
“Hate to say it but they probably voted dem.”
You beat me to it, but I was going to say that they voted for Obozo.
It will not take much longer for the real Americans to realize how stupid they are.....voting for an end to America.
Buy local, grow your own, and try to unplug from the industrial food grid.
If our Coast Guard can't do it, it sounds to me like the sensible thing to do would be to hire and equip. the fishermen to protect their fishing grounds. Oh, wait. I forgot. That would be asking the gov't to do something sensible.
The Michigan pig conspiracy is actually only an attempt to keep siberian boars out of the state. If they get out into the wild they will quickly destroy the forests. Some of us are hunters/fishers here and we don’t like invasive species ruining things.
The fishing limits is to protect the cod from being fished out and completely destroying that industry.
Regulations are like cash in the bank for our ‘public servants’... Each side comes hat in hand begging for fairness - well hat in one hand - and cash in the other.
Our politicians shame the nation.
And what has come to us, will come to all you landlubing FRs sooner rather that later. Yes sure you say, we aren't fishermen, loggers, miners, or farmers so we are immune.
Get in line behind all those others who previously claimed immunity ...
After reading the article it’s not clear to me whether the fish are there or not. If they’re not then something has to be done to turn that around. Blue crabs in the Cheseapeake is a great example. It took Virginia forever to finally stop allowing watermen to dredge the females loaded with eggs out of the mud in the winter time. Now the population seems to be growing again.
I wonder what owner of a large commercial fishing fleet that donated huge sums of money to Obama’s “war chest” is waiting for a very good year of fishing in the near future?
No regulation is issued unless there is some special interest group standing in the wings awaiting their reward for the support they gave the Democrat (Communist) party.
Democrats and RINOS
GOD DENIERS AND CONGENITAL LIARS
ARE REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH INCITERS/
FOR FIRST YOUR MONEY THEN YOUR GUNS
AND BE DEFENSELESS WHEN THEY COME
So you’re OK with the fishermen being bankrupted by drastic cuts then?
Foreign fishing fleets looting the grounds is Exactly right! Done via their US-government-supplied federal fishing permits handed out by political committees to foreign shell companies whose campaign contributions are not reportable or traceable.
is there an extreme shortage of these cod. I know that cod are harder and harder to catch as the numbers dwindle.
back in the 80s bans of Striped Bass in the north east for a decade or so brought this once depleted fishery back from the brink. Even I started catching Stripers again. I had never caught one till this happened.
I do not like govt intruding in anything...but is there perhaps a method to their madness??? or is it just another intrusion??
Part of the problem is 7 billion people on the Earth and large amounts of them finally getting out of the 3rd world, like India and China, and the fact that fish is very healthy.
So we’re told to eat more fish, take fish oil capsules,and in some places, fish is ground into fertilizer.
Most all of the fish consumed in the world is wild caught. The big factory ships are out there because everyone wants cheap, healthy-for-you fish.
I doubt many have an answer to any of this. All I see is fish going off my menu because it becomes too expensive. If we let the market work its magic rather than government then fish would be persued until there were hardly any left, and then the price would skyrocket. However, if we let government regulate the industry (worldwide, too) then prices would skyrocket.
Either way the price of ocean caught fish is going to go way, way up. Too bad for the Japanese and other cultures that eat a lot of fish.
Maybe at some point we’ll learn how to ranch or domesticate fish.
Sorry FR iend, The crabbing last year was the worst I have seen in the last 20 years.
The DNR told us what a great year it would be, it sucked.
I don’t see the crab population growing, Maybe this yera will be better.
However it was right to stop the dredging, I just hope one day it will help.
I guess they need to study Community Organizing....
Bullshit or in this case pigshit. It's not the hunters but the factory pork producers that are behind this. These farm animals were declared 'feral' simply because of the way they look. They were not and have never been feral, neither were they in any way invasive.
All this clucking over the New Englanders voting for Dems. Serves ‘em right, eh?
We voted for Romney, so we’re beyond reproach.
In fact, the voting is totally beside the point. If we are dutifully paying our taxes we are just as blameworthy as these New Englanders. You work hard, send half of it to the govt, and then have a little schadenfreude over the bankruptcy of a fisherman?
I would only blame him for letting things go so far as bankruptcy, and being a material accomplice to the govt that ruined him, by paying his taxes.
Perhaps like Hank Rearden he loved his work more than he loved justice. But if you love America you should think hard about what wolf you’re feeding and enlarging.
If you’re so law-abiding you can’t bear to go rogue, you can always make some sacrifices and endure some hardship for the sake of America: cut back on work, or quit altogether. Then you won’t have to pay those taxes to the system you claim to believe is destroying the nation you claim to love.
Some day, someone is bound to reproach us, too, and say it served us right, because we considered our duty fulfilled by going to the polls and flipping a lever for some RINO.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, or the bankruptcy court rules.
A real crime is that the grumpy old GOP trying to tell folks about the failure of government and regulations including UNION rules sounded like spoil sports. When their warning comes true people hate them even more for being accurate.
The fisheries in Newfoundland had collapsed before the Canadians shut it down. After 20 years it has just started showing signs of recovery and it is going to be years before it can be opened for fishing again. The dynamics of fisheries do not follow the dynamics of the free market (demand-supply) so this is one of the rare cases where external regulation is necessary. Collapse of fisheries is a worldwide phenomenon and can no longer be avoided. Even if the govt. didn’t regulate the New England industry, the fisheries would collapse anyway. This whole issue is nothing like the climate change or whatever, in the sense that it is obvious and very real.