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Feinstein's plan bans any gun with a 'grip'?
WND ^ | January 30, 2013 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/31/2013 5:34:22 AM PST by Perseverando

Analyst says list 'a smokescreen' to conceal true intent of bill

A key gun law analyst who has published books on the issue of the Second Amendment and its rights and responsibilities for decades says the Feinstein gun ban bill is just exactly that, a gun ban bill.

Not, essentially, a plan to limit certain guns. Not a limit on the size of magazines. Not a plan for restrictions on those with certifiable mental instabilities, a ban on criminals’ access or a plan to encourage gun safety.

Alan Korwin is a nationally recognized expert resource on the issue of gun laws, and runs Bloomfield Press, which is the largest publisher and distributor of gun-law books in the country.

He said if the plan by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., is made law, “any semiautomatic firearm with uses a magazine – handgun, rifle or shotgun – equipped with a ‘pistol grip,’ would be banned.”

He explained, “That sounds like a limitation, but it is not. A pistol grip (on page 2) is defined (on page 13) as ‘a grip, a thumb-hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.’”

He said, “In other words, the gun list does not matter. It is a smokescreen designed to distract people from the true meaning of the bill. And it has done a magnificent job. It worked! Any semi-automatic firearm that exists, with anything on it you can grip, is banned. (There is a grandfather clause for old stuff.)

Read the proposed bill here.

“The list is meaningless tripe. It is camouflage for the real purpose of the bill. When the president said he is not going to take away your guns, well, Feinstein’s bill ”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; awb; banglist; feinstein; guncontrol; secondamendment; styg

1 posted on 01/31/2013 5:34:26 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

2 posted on 01/31/2013 5:40:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Perseverando
Sending a gardening overhaul gift to improve the magnificence of her palatiuos mansion our tax dollars and her criminal enterprises within the framework of the people house would be nice.
3 posted on 01/31/2013 5:40:47 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: Perseverando
An unintended consequence.
4 posted on 01/31/2013 5:41:17 AM PST by umgud
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To: Perseverando

This is going nowhere. The Dems can’t even get it out of the Senate. They are just going through the motions so they can tell their nutjob activists, “We tried.”

The magazine limitation bills should be of more concern.


5 posted on 01/31/2013 5:45:14 AM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Perseverando

The bill is dead. Leahy even said so yesterday.

The real threat at this point is at the state level for people like me.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 5:49:47 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Perseverando
If it becomes law then gun owners should obey ONLY after the 0bama regime obeys The Constitution, current laws on immigration, budget and finance laws, and countless others.
7 posted on 01/31/2013 5:49:48 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: Perseverando

Just replace it with a kung fu grip!


8 posted on 01/31/2013 5:58:01 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Azeem

I may be wrong but I thought I’d read that this crap bill didn’t even pass the House and is DOA.


9 posted on 01/31/2013 6:23:31 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: Perseverando

That’s sexist........


10 posted on 01/31/2013 6:24:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: TheRhinelander
The real threat at this point is at the state level for people like me.

State-level legislation is the front lines of this fight, no question. We are all watching New York and how that goes.

The Federal level is not to be ignored, however, as the gun grabbers will try everything to get weak-kneed Republicans "compromise".
Our stand should be firm: No New Gun Laws!

House Bills:
H.R. 21: NRA Members' Gun Safety Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Moran, James P., Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 34: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L., Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 65: Child Gun Safety and Gun Access Prevention Act of 2013 . Sponsor: Rep Jackson Lee, Sheila, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 117: Handgun Licensing and Registration Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Holt, Rush, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 137: Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 138: Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 141: Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 142: Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 226: Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act. Sponsor: Rep DeLauro, Rosa L., Referred to the Ways and Means committee.
H.R. 227: Buyback Our Safety Act. Sponsor: Rep Deutch, Theodore E., Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 236: Crackdown on Deadbeat Gun Dealers Act of 2013. Sponsor: Rep Langevin, James R., Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 238: Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act. Sponsor: Rep Meng, Grace, Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, And Investigations.
H.R. 329: To amend the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 to encourage States to provide records to the National Instant Background Check System.Sponsor: Rep Fitzpatrick, Michael G.
H.R. 404: To enhance criminal penalties for straw purchasers of firearms. Sponsor: Rep Schiff, Adam B.
H.R. 427: To prevent the illegal sale of firearms, and for other purpoes. Sponsor: Rep Quigley, Mike
H.R. 431: To restore certain authorities of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to administer the firearms laws, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Speier, Jackie

Senate Bills:
S.22: A bill to establish background check procedures for gun shows. Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.33: A bill to prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R., Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.34: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists. Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R., Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.35: A bill to require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition. Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R., Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.54: A bill to increase public safety by punishing and deterring firearms trafficking. ("trafficking = "private sales") Sponsor: Sen Leahy, Patrick J., Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.147: A bill to establish minimum standards for States that allow the carrying of concealed firearms. Sponsor: Sen Boxer, Barbara , Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee
S.150: A bill to regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Sen Feinstein, Dianne, Referred to the Senate Judiciary committee

And an interesting side note:
H.R. 339: To require the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to make video recordings of the examination and testing of firearms and ammunition, and for other purposes.

And one to support! H.R. 410: To provide that any executive action infringing on the Second Amendment has no force or effect, and to prohibit the use of funds for certain purposes.

11 posted on 01/31/2013 6:25:13 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: TheRhinelander
I'm in NY....Cuomo is taking a big hit on this....but he obediently licked Obama's boots hoping for a "higher" calling.

I think the NY (no bullets for you) law will be repealed. It serves no purpose.

12 posted on 01/31/2013 6:27:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I thought I’d read that this crap bill didn’t even pass the House and is DOA

None of the bills thus far introduced in either House or Senate have even been reported out of committee, much less have been up for a vote.

They can be stopped in committee, and be stopped in a vote.

My post provides links to the committee members who might be swayed by sufficient numbers of calls and letters saying, "No more gun laws!"... but that is not certain.

13 posted on 01/31/2013 6:33:11 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: TheRhinelander
The bill is dead. Leahy even said so yesterday.

The same tactic was used with the Obamacare legislation.

14 posted on 01/31/2013 6:38:19 AM PST by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: Spirochete

Didn’t Baraqqicare pass when Nancy was speaker?


15 posted on 01/31/2013 6:40:40 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Perseverando

My prediction:

Feinswine’s bill will go nowhere. The Stupid Party will celebrate this bill’s demise, while cheering on a bill for 100% registration of all firearms, no Grandfather Clause. It will be hailed as a “grand compromise” in the tradition of the Clay Compromise by the GOPe, the Rats and the Enemedia.

Jeff Flake, the formerly conservative House member, will vote for it as it passes the senate by 94 to 3. Boehner will see it safely through the House.


16 posted on 01/31/2013 6:53:27 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Perseverando

strike grip. replace with barrel.


17 posted on 01/31/2013 7:39:35 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: umgud

Guns don’t kill people grips do. :)


18 posted on 01/31/2013 8:40:34 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Azeem

I think it is a bait and switch tactic. This is the bait and it scares the Pubs so bad that they eagerly go for universal background checks.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 8:50:31 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: TheRhinelander

the effetes seem to be hovering over background checks and life saver capacity magazins (iow limiting chances as saving life)

why is an astronaught who has no real claim to knowledge on this issue other than being married to a LONG TIME anti-second amendment wife who started and anti-second amendment lobbyist group to triangulate the NRA speaking at this?

they only have a few hundred members. vs the nra 4.5 million.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 10:22:44 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

aka full registration.

background checks are just registration.

remember all congress is eXEMPT!!!


21 posted on 01/31/2013 10:25:50 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Gifford and her husband are nothing but anti-gun whores now. If I met them I’d spit in their faces.


22 posted on 01/31/2013 12:32:50 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander; All

There are real State level threats.

There is also the real threat of “universal background checks” which is code for “universal firearm registration” which is functionally equivalent to confiscation over time.


23 posted on 01/31/2013 4:13:26 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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