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Standoff with Alabama man who killed bus driver, holding boy hostage enters day 2
Jacksonville.com ^ | 1.31.2013

Posted on 01/31/2013 6:16:38 AM PST by WCH

MIDLAND CITY, Ala. (AP) — Jimmy Lee Dykes moved to a rural Alabama neighborhood on a rutted red clay road more than a year ago. It didn't take long before he had developed a frightening reputation as a volatile man who threatened his neighbors at gunpoint and was viciously violent to wandering pets. Multiple neighbors said Dykes, a 65-year-old retired truck driver, was the man suspected of boarding a school bus full of children near his home, killing the driver and taking one 5-year-old boy hostage to open a standoff that entered its second full day Thursday. The neighborhood near Midland City, population 2,300, remained under siege after the Tuesday shooting, with the suspect and child holed up in a bunker-type shelter on the man's property that was equipped with electricity, food and TV.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-01-31/story/standoff-alabama-man-who-killed-bus-driver-holding-boy-hostage-enters#ixzz2JYuu4CPh

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1 posted on 01/31/2013 6:16:42 AM PST by WCH
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To: WCH

Prayers sent to protect this poor child.


2 posted on 01/31/2013 6:22:16 AM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

I am praying with you, secret garden, for the protection of this innocent child (and his parents).


3 posted on 01/31/2013 6:25:36 AM PST by momtothree
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To: WCH

They need to bring General Wesley Clark...he has handled such situations in the past.../ s


4 posted on 01/31/2013 6:29:45 AM PST by Popman
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To: WCH

Quick!

Someone should grab a pair of scissors and rush in and rescue the boy.

And no, this is not sarcasm..

I’m only going by what Homeland Security is recommending..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2983750/posts


5 posted on 01/31/2013 6:34:31 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: WCH

Please send the helicopters, armored personnel carriers, and 90% of on site LEO’s home. The guy is underground. We don’t need 100 on site LEO’s.

The need a couple of on site admins/negotiators, small EMT/fire dept. team and one 5-6 man SWAT team and a couple of guys to keep gawkers and press at bay.

If I was a homeowner in the 1 mile radius that were forced out I would be livid and more than likely in jail for re-entering my home.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 6:39:05 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: WCH

Prayers up for this poor kid and his family.


7 posted on 01/31/2013 6:43:21 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: WCH

If he threatened his neighbors with a gun, why wasn’t he arrested? How is it no one complained about this guy before he murdered someone and kidnapped a child?


8 posted on 01/31/2013 6:43:32 AM PST by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: WCH
"a man who once beat a dog to death with a lead pipe, "

Where does one obtain a lead pipe these days?

9 posted on 01/31/2013 6:44:01 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
Where does one obtain a lead pipe these days?

Probably from an old "Clue" board game...

10 posted on 01/31/2013 6:52:26 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Resolute Conservative

Agreed, this doesn’t need to be a circus. Any possibility of finding this guy’s ventilation system and pumping in some undetectable gas to put him to sleep for awhile? It would give authorities time to break in and rescue the young boy.

Prayers for this young child and LEO working to resolve this.


11 posted on 01/31/2013 6:54:10 AM PST by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Popman

From reports on earlier threads, he might be the only law enforcement official within fifty miles that isn’t there. I like how somebody here described it as “LEO skip day”.


12 posted on 01/31/2013 7:05:32 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Kharis13

No possibility whatsoever. Google “Russian movie theater terrorist”.


13 posted on 01/31/2013 7:10:48 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: WCH

Ugh! Fox just interviewed the neighbor (who sounded like a transplant from Cali) who’s dog was beaten by the perp said she called animal control on him and not the cops! I would have pressed charges!


14 posted on 01/31/2013 7:16:33 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Kharis13

That was my first thought but what could they use that would work on the man without killing the boy first? The child could be overdosed and the man not even asleep yet.


15 posted on 01/31/2013 7:26:04 AM PST by Ditter
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To: popdonnelly

Neighbors did complain. He was arrested. Two months ago for pulling a gun on a neighbor.

His day in court was to have been yesterday. It’s been reported that he said something like “they’re coming to get me”; as he shot the bus driver and took the boy.


16 posted on 01/31/2013 7:26:24 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

You are half right, by my thinking.

That mob of cops is going to cause the bad guy to do something really rash. After all, he is a nut case.

But too many cops nowdays have the military mentality.

What I would do is the same thing a hunter does when he wants to shoot groundhogs or the like.

You become invisible.

I would send everyone home. I would then make a very sad announcement on TV, as I understand he has one, that the guy has in some way escaped. “He is a really smart guy, a survivalist, and he has in some way eluded us.”

I would post a sniper with a heat imagining scope at its maximum range from the entrance, behind the entrance, not in front of it.

Just as you would when shooting groundhogs.

He is so sure he is smarter than the cops that he would go for it and attempt to exit during the wee hours of the night.

It might take a few days, but he would eventually come out.

If I am wrong, so what. Nothing is being accomplished with the present tactics.


17 posted on 01/31/2013 7:38:19 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: WCH
I think they could get a US Navy carrier task force up in Lake Seminole. Might have to do some dredging.

Let's see: the sheriff's department, local police, Alabama state police, , the FBI, US Marshals, ATF explosives specialists, SWAT teams, helicopters - all for one old guy in a hole.

They're practicing for the gun confiscation raids - right out in plain sight:


18 posted on 01/31/2013 7:44:45 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Kharis13

Gasing is not an exact science. It could kill the child.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 7:45:36 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: popdonnelly
If he threatened his neighbors with a gun, why wasn’t he arrested?

Apparently he was arrested just before Christmas...heard that on a local talk show (Birmingham AL) this morning. The threatening incident happened around 12/11 (I think) and he was arrested sometime between then and Christmas. Not sure why he got out of jail, but depending on the actual charges he was probably released on his own recognizance or posted bail.

20 posted on 01/31/2013 7:50:12 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Resolute Conservative
We don’t need 100 on site LEO’s.

There's probably AT LEAST 200-300 LEO & military types tied up in this laughing stock.

Barney Fife, Goober, Opie and 4 of Opie's friends could keep this old guy bottled up long enough for him to get tired and fall asleep.

They're practicing for gun confiscation raids, and civilian bullying.

21 posted on 01/31/2013 7:54:14 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: WCH
The reason the mainstream media is not reporting this as front page news is that the government has come to the realization they can not protect the thousands of school buses running in school districts across the nation.

Often buses are MANY miles away from any law enforcement help, without armed drivers, HOW are you going to protect those children? Hmmmmm?????

Thought of this the other day, but didn't publish anything for fear of being blamed or investigated for instigating it.

22 posted on 01/31/2013 8:08:47 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: kiryandil
They're practicing for gun confiscation raids, and civilian bullying.

I so don't want to believe this, but I so do!

23 posted on 01/31/2013 9:22:40 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia; kiryandil

—They’re practicing for gun confiscation raids, and civilian bullying.

I so don’t want to believe this, but I so do!—

I don’t. It’s a hostage situation. I would rather have too many people there than not enough.


24 posted on 01/31/2013 9:28:19 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14
I don’t. It’s a hostage situation. I would rather have too many people there than not enough.

And this is the sort of Police State thinking that abounds on Free Republic, while "the authoritays" violate their own laws left and right, and shred the Constitution daily.

There is no law in McMinn County, j14.

BTW - turn in your guns, peasant.

25 posted on 01/31/2013 9:35:06 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Yeah yeah. I’m not turing in my guns anytime soon, thank you very much.


26 posted on 01/31/2013 9:38:20 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14
I don’t. It’s a hostage situation. I would rather have too many people there than not enough.

On second thought, perhaps you're right.

We should suspend Posse Comitatus, and mobilize the entire 82nd Airborne, the 10th Mountain Division, and the 1st Armored Division.

AND a couple of US Navy carrier groups. Pensacola is just down the block.

You can't have too many people, I guess...

27 posted on 01/31/2013 9:40:14 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: justice14
Yeah yeah. I’m not turning in my guns anytime soon, thank you very much.

You've already surrendered them to the guys in the above picture.

Were you born yesterday?

28 posted on 01/31/2013 9:43:17 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Strawmen everywhere. Try again.

Or I can play that game as well.

“on second though, perhaps you’re right.

We could just send in a mall cop with no weapon to confront the murderer.”


29 posted on 01/31/2013 9:46:28 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: kiryandil

—You’ve already surrendered them to the guys in the above picture.—

Considering my guns are still around... I can be certain to say, that I have not surrendered them. Maybe you have in this alternate world, but I have not.


30 posted on 01/31/2013 9:47:51 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14
Six guys could wait him out.

They don't need two hundred, including the clowns in the above picture.

Those will be the guys coming for YOU when you squeak your little mousy defiance about "keepin' ma gunz"...

31 posted on 01/31/2013 9:50:20 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

I think 1 could wait him out. 6 is obviously a training excersize on how to ambush me.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 9:52:37 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: justice14

I guess I’ll leave it to you to figure out why you’re on a Constitutional, limited government website, where “standing armies” should be anathema, and militarized police gunthugs making 30, 40, 50, 60 dollars an hour to keep the peasants in line would have made the Founding Fathers’ blood run cold.


33 posted on 01/31/2013 10:03:55 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Keeping the peasants in line? Really. That’s what you call this? Good greif. Yeah, if it was around a persons house, who they say is a gun nut, and then provide no other details, yeah I might be a little wary. Our Founders were smart guys who didn’t jump off a bridge every instance.


34 posted on 01/31/2013 10:11:24 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: kiryandil

Exactly.

And if something tragic happens to this small child, you can bet a ban on “bunker-type shelter on the man’s property that was equipped with electricity, food and TV.” will be shortly behind it.

Because, if he wasn’t prepared with something like this, wherein he could wait out the Storm Troopers, none of this would have happened!

/s


35 posted on 01/31/2013 10:14:06 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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To: old curmudgeon

I think your plan is a great one. But lacking in good TV drama.


36 posted on 01/31/2013 12:34:08 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Wrote the first in a rush.

I would make drama.

I would have cops all over the place...

But in the woods about three miles away. TV cmeras showing how they are beating the brush.

Some woman on TV all excited telling how she saw this guy pulling a kid behind him behind her house about 3:00 AM (her dog’s barking woke her). Last seen going into the woods behind her house.

I would have everyone convinced the guy was on the loose.

And the real BG would be convinced he is the world’s smartest guy.

The only rub to the idea is how to keep the kid medicated, if his medical problem is that serious.

Keeping him medicated would require that the decision on how to proceed would have to be made in the very first hour or two so that the first medical delivery would be large enough that refills would not be necessary.

Unless the negotiator can convince this guy that he needs to come out and change the world with his public appearance, this will likely not end well.


37 posted on 01/31/2013 3:09:45 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: kiryandil

Funny how this story has just DIED. You have to dig to find this story in the internet. Wonder why?


38 posted on 01/31/2013 6:34:51 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: WCH

I can’t seem to find a picture of this guy. He’s described as a “survivalist”, Vietnam Vet, and Anti-American.


39 posted on 01/31/2013 6:36:01 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: old curmudgeon

I have read some of those former FBI books, and they do know negotiation skills. Hopefully they know them well enough to relieve the paranoia of this man and allow the child to be freed.
Apparently they are getting meds and toys to the child through
something...


40 posted on 02/01/2013 12:22:31 PM PST by MarMema
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To: machogirl

Strange... I went to update the story and there’s NOTHING new.

Nobody really wants to cover this one.


41 posted on 02/01/2013 1:05:46 PM PST by WCH
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To: WCH

weird. must not fit some agenda of the MSM.


42 posted on 02/01/2013 8:07:43 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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