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Most U.S. Gun Deaths Result from Suicide (My title)
Wiki Answers ^ | 2012 | Wikianswers

Posted on 01/31/2013 9:19:52 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee

[Roughly 60 percent of U.S. firearms fatalities died by their own hand.]

How many gun deaths are in the US every year?

In 2011, the latest figure available from the Centers for Disease Control,

Accidental discharge 851 Suicide 19,766 Homicide 11,101 Undetermined Intent 222

Total: At least 31940 people died from gun injuries in 2011.

Also 258 people were killed during legal intervention, most of them due to guns.

Guns were involved, but were not the primary cause of death: -in 2 fatal accidents. -in 6 homicides.

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/31/2013 9:19:56 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Yup. If we got rid of all those guns there wouldn’t be any suicides. Typical radical left wing extremist demokkkrat thinking/logic. Dolts.


2 posted on 01/31/2013 9:24:05 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So many anti-gun folks scream about hi-cap mags. I wonder if the is any data to confirm how many deaths occur with shots# 11 through 30, >1, 2 to 5, 5 to 10?Not that it matters, just curious.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 9:24:57 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

36,909 total suicides in the US in 2009.

Getting rid of guns won’t even end suicide or notably lower the numbers.


4 posted on 01/31/2013 9:25:59 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So many anti-gun folks scream about hi-cap mags. I wonder if the is any data to confirm how many deaths occur with shots# 11 through 30, >1, 2 to 5, 5 to 10? Not that it matters, just curious.


5 posted on 01/31/2013 9:26:12 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Hello, that’s because we have guns. Sucks to be in a country that has outlawed guns and knives and to have to drink bleach or jump in front of a bus or to tie steaks to yourself and find a pack of wild dogs...


6 posted on 01/31/2013 9:29:34 AM PST by trailboss800
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To: Brad from Tennessee
But guns don't cause suicide, because countries with onerous gun control laws have higher suicide rates than countries without.

WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE?, Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, Volume 30, Number 2, Spring 2007 (pp. 649-694)

7 posted on 01/31/2013 9:29:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

bflr


8 posted on 01/31/2013 9:34:23 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

And the CDC reports half of all food-borne illnesses in the USA result from improper washing or contamination of leafy, green vegetables. Spinach alone is 20%

And yet the FDA insists on regulating every farm, every food factory, every distributor within an inch of their lives.

The FED’s desire to control guns is 100X stronger.


9 posted on 01/31/2013 9:34:48 AM PST by PGR88
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To: showme_the_Glory
Well I can tell you this, the use of high-cap mags in a suicide can be determined to be inconsequential.
10 posted on 01/31/2013 9:36:04 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

***[Roughly 60 percent of U.S. firearms fatalities died by their own hand.] ***

I bet it is much higher taking from the “accidental” list.

Many times we used to her about someone who was killed while “cleaning a loaded pistol.”

Police reports would say...”He was cleaning his gun and it went off.”

Since insurance companies won’t pay for suicides it was believed this was to help the widow collect.

Then we often see in the obit page of “J-— D—, age 26, died at his home...”

Lots of young people die at home now days.


11 posted on 01/31/2013 9:38:58 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If I remember right, if you discount suicide by guns, car fatalities then outnumber gun deaths by double. Yet no calls for car banning, and they will even let kids as young as 16 drive. I’m 50 years old, grew up in New york city and recently moved out 2 months ago being that it is now a despotic state, and in all that time I’ve known two people who were shot: A friend of mine who was shot in the arm by a cop who mistook him for a car thief, and my uncle who was shot oddly enough in the arm again by a robber who was running from the cops. That’s it, 2 people. But when it comes to car/vehicle fatalities, I could fill up this page with all the people I knew who were killed including 2 relatives.


12 posted on 01/31/2013 9:39:58 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Worth noting in all such statistics that homicides are not necessarily murders.

person killing person = homicide

Killing a rapist in an act of self-defense is still a homicide.

Homicide + illegal intent = murder


13 posted on 01/31/2013 9:40:24 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I’ve know about a dozen people in my life who committed suicide.

half of them owned guns.

Not a single one used a gun to off themselves.

pills or carbon monoxide seemed to be the preferred way to go


14 posted on 01/31/2013 9:40:33 AM PST by digger48
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To: Brad from Tennessee; NFHale; Gilbo_3

AHah, proof we need a ban on all guns, except the gov and private Security forces for .....

If your gun is not taken away I could hurt myself...

Do it for Gabby, do it for the children.


15 posted on 01/31/2013 9:40:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I know of at least 6 who shut themselves in the garage with their car running.

Which to ban? Cars or garages?


16 posted on 01/31/2013 9:42:58 AM PST by digger48
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I find that to be a truly amazing statistic.

I’m barely able to believe it.


17 posted on 01/31/2013 9:44:28 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: sickoflibs
a ban on all guns, except the gov

One can always commit suicide by cop.

Just pull out a cell phone reals fast

18 posted on 01/31/2013 9:44:34 AM PST by digger48
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I remember an old Charles Addams cartoon, a woman comes home and finds her husband hanging in the closet. He managed to get his arm and head in the noose and did not die.

She says...."For heavens sake John, can't you do anything right?"

Then there is this young man. No guns or nooses needed.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 9:44:46 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: sickoflibs
If your gun is not taken away I could hurt myself...

Somebody actually wrote a pro-gun-control article to that effect. She is "depressed" and might suicide if she had a gun, so everybody has to give up guns, or logic to that effect.
20 posted on 01/31/2013 9:45:53 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: sickoflibs
****Do it for Gabby, do it for the children.****

Oh-h Gabby like guns. See Gabby smile!


21 posted on 01/31/2013 9:49:36 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Glad to see it posted, I almost posted that the other day and then didn’t. We all regret what happened to her, but once upon a time she didn’t look too unhappy holding a gun!


22 posted on 01/31/2013 9:54:28 AM PST by potlatch
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To: Little Ray; digger48; Gilbo_3; NFHale
RE :”Somebody actually wrote a pro-gun-control article to that effect. She is “depressed” and might suicide if she had a gun, so everybody has to give up guns, or logic to that effect.’

Yes, that makes perfect sense.

Freedom is not free when I am free to hurt myself with a gun.

Plus, if I live after shooting myself Obama-care must patch it up at taxpayer expense , so banning guns is deficit reduction too.
Come on, you pubbies all say you are worried about deficits LOL..

Do it for gabby and the little ones...

23 posted on 01/31/2013 9:55:58 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

We need a total ban on suicides.


24 posted on 01/31/2013 9:59:03 AM PST by lurk
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Anyone who successfully kills themselves with a gun is likely to have killed themselves by other methods if a gun wasn't available. A firearm is quick and reliable but so is hanging or jumping from a building or bridge if the distance is adequate. I would imagine the guillotine in your illustration is very quick provided it is heavy enough to cut cleanly through the spine.

The question is: Should firearm suicides be placed in the same category with other gun homicides?

25 posted on 01/31/2013 10:04:32 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: sickoflibs
Plus, if I live after shooting myself Obama-care must patch it up at taxpayer expense ,

I almost forgot the guy I knew who tried to blow his brains out.

Too drunk and only managed to take half of his face off.

26 posted on 01/31/2013 10:12:03 AM PST by digger48
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
If I remember right, if you discount suicide by guns, car fatalities then outnumber gun deaths by double.

Note gray area was this prediction, not actual numbers.

27 posted on 01/31/2013 10:22:14 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I watched part of her testimony yesterday, but do I even have to guess that not once did she mention the REAL reason she was shot, namely that liberals constantly insist that the mentally ill be allowed to wander the streets even after they pose threats to other people like Mr. Jared Lee Loughner whose own classmates were afraid he was going to shoot them well BEFORE he ever shot Gabby?

If I remember right, the teacher was having a hard time getting that nut even out of his classroom never mind getting him into a psych ward where he belonged. And of course what does he do? What all those people expected him to do: He killed people.

It’s like here in New York city, in the late 90s Rudy Guiliani tried to get all the wackos wandering the street involuntarily committed but armed guard protected millionaire leftists like Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins organized mass protests against this whereas Rudy caved in, so now to this day we still got wackos wandering the streets killing people, like these two lovely individuals:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/nyc-subway-push-killing-suspect-custody/story?id=18090508

or this....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/05/naeem-davis-charged-with-murder_n_2245618.html

Both perps seen talking to themselves before. Thank you liberals, and this is two examples just from the past month alone. Oh yes and there was also 2 other individuals who were pushed but survived so in essence we have FOUR people pushed onto subway tracks by wackos in only one month. Thank you Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins for serving your city so well, not that they ever have to take the subway themselves.


28 posted on 01/31/2013 10:25:34 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: digger48

I have attempted suicide several times, almost exclusively with pills. The attempts were serious enough to have given me a stroke and complete kidney failure. Just bad luck in being successful, I guess.

The point is, after the first attempt, I was on some sort of list that rendered me permanently unable to purchase a firearm, and I’m way too burnt out on hospital visits and shrinks to attempt anything again. So, in this limited instance, I guess should be thankful to not have access to guns.


29 posted on 01/31/2013 10:26:29 AM PST by newhoosier
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To: newhoosier

I hope you find the strength to resist that sort of thing in the future.

You really have no idea what it does to those that love you.

I know this first hand, as my mother was one of which I speak.

even after 30 years, it is still devastating to me


30 posted on 01/31/2013 10:36:14 AM PST by digger48
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Oh-h Gabby like guns. See Gabby smile!”

What’s with the rear sight? I’d smile too if I had an AK with either a huge periscope or a vertical rocket launcher.


31 posted on 01/31/2013 10:48:21 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: SampleMan

It would be very instructive to have stats breaking down the 11,101 homicides into self-defense versus murder, then how many of the “murders” were criminals killing each other. CDC/gov’t is unlikely to reveal this directly, but I wonder if something can be deduced from DOJ/FBI crime stats.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 11:03:36 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: showme_the_Glory
So many anti-gun folks scream about hi-cap mags. I wonder if the is any data to confirm how many deaths occur with shots# 11 through 30, >1, 2 to 5, 5 to 10? Not that it matters, just curious.

No suicides were reported with rounds 11-30, in fact, round one was the round preferred by the majority of all suicide planners.

My preference would be round 30 but only after I got 29 liberal politicial pricks.

33 posted on 01/31/2013 11:08:11 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I would substitute the word”Carelessness”for”Accidental Discharge”!


34 posted on 01/31/2013 12:48:03 PM PST by bandleader
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