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GOP Electoral Ploy Will Backfire
Arizona Daily Sun ^ | January 31, 2013 | Steve & Cokie Roberts

Posted on 01/31/2013 11:13:56 AM PST by fractionated

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Erratum: To bring things up to date on developments in the interval between the column's writing and publication, "Will Backfire" should read "Has Backfired".
1 posted on 01/31/2013 11:14:00 AM PST by fractionated
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To: fractionated
I support proportional electoral allocation in my state. Others can do as they wish in theirs.

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2 posted on 01/31/2013 11:16:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: fractionated

The author is Cokie Roberts? No wonder the article is full of crap.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 11:21:24 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: fractionated

I’m sure Cokie Roberts has the best interest of the GOP at heart and is really just trying to help.


4 posted on 01/31/2013 11:22:18 AM PST by Obadiah (We must commit to remove every Senate Blue-dog Democrat from office in 2014!)
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To: fractionated

Heard Karl Rove bashing Todd Akin on O’Reilly the other night and speaking about “stupid” within the gop. Want to talk stupid? the GOP just reelected Reince Priebus as National Chair. The man could not even carry his own state of Wisconsin for Romney. Looks like they want the same old status quo but to oust selected conservatives.
As for me..I am sick of the race card..no more cowtowing to any group for the sake of bringing them onboard. ANYONE that supports the constitution, fights the environmentalists, supports protecting our borders are the types I want to vote for and race, income, etc do not matter.
GOP should get rid of Rove too and Priebus should have resigned in disgrace.


5 posted on 01/31/2013 11:23:04 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: cripplecreek

I propose 1 vote per county in the nationals. Whether you win Orange County or a county with 5000 people, the vote should be equal. Most counties won in the state gets the electoral vote.

Someone run that scenario and see where we would have been in 2012.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 11:24:38 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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To: fractionated

This elderly Leftist Democrat couple are the last people to give advice to Republicans. One just as well ask Vladimer Putin for his tips for GOP success.


7 posted on 01/31/2013 11:25:31 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: fractionated
Well consider the commie authors of this piece and the fact that they're trying to give advice to the Republican Party. The whole idea behind changing how electoral votes are allocated is to stop the uber-liberal cities from overwhelming rural areas of states in National elections. For instance, Pennsylvania is mostly a Conservative state by county and congressional district, but Philly and Pittsburgh always tip the balance to the Rats.

I support the effort and think that it is high time that rural counties stand up against the big cities.

8 posted on 01/31/2013 11:25:41 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: cripplecreek
Supporting winner take all electoral votes enables the localized cheating the commie ‘Rats have become accustomed to. I say we throw a big honkin wrench in their carefully placed gears.
9 posted on 01/31/2013 11:27:55 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: max americana

Hale Boggs’ daughter still making waves.............


10 posted on 01/31/2013 11:34:40 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: fractionated

The fact that Hokey Roberts is screaming this loud about it is clue that it’s a good strategy. Forward ho!


11 posted on 01/31/2013 11:34:50 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: fractionated
Most federal judges will surely understand that "densely populated areas" -- along with "urban" and "metro" -- are code words for race. And by the way, Sen. Carrico, that's how democracy works. The majority wins. Blacks in Alabama and gays in Idaho also feel outvoted.

Notice how the RATS all seem to know our supposed code words. If they were really our code words, shouldn't we be the only ones to know them?

12 posted on 01/31/2013 11:41:24 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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WE WILL NEVER APPEAL TO A LARGE NUMBER OF MINORITIES!! NEVER!

So stop being stupid in trying.


13 posted on 01/31/2013 11:41:34 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Timber Rattler
I support the effort and think that it is high time that rural counties stand up against the big cities.

So why should your opinion and vote count more if you live in a rural area than in a city?

You need a better answer than "because that will help Republicans to win" or "I agree with people that live in rural areas."

14 posted on 01/31/2013 11:46:05 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: cripplecreek

Would certainly help here in Pennsylvania (as has been well-documented)


15 posted on 01/31/2013 11:56:54 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fractionated

If leftist Democrat hacks like Cokie Boggs Roberts oppose something, you know it’s the right thing to do.


16 posted on 01/31/2013 11:59:05 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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“Subverting democracy by suffocating minorities is the opposite of respect. It ignores Jindal’s advice and damages the Republican brand. Talk about stupid.”

First of all, who the hell gives a damn what Cokie Roberts thinks?

And second of all, changing the method of allocating Electoral College votes has nothing, NOTHING, to do with minorities. It’s a way to once again balance the population centers (who tend to have one view and support one party) with the more rural areas (who tend to have another view and support the other party). The Electoral College is a representative assembly. And the whole people are not being represented. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are choosing all the representatives from PA; Detroit is choosing all the representatives from MI, Cleveland and Cincinnati are choosing all the representatives from Ohio, etc.

The result of this is that the president is not elected by the whole people, but only by the population centers, which is the very thing that the electoral college was created to prevent.

Roberts and the intelligentsia do not like the people, through their representatives in the states to take over the voting model they have created. Red States, Blue States, Swing States, Voter Fruad in all the big cities to sway states one way or the other. That power comes to an end should states change how the Electoral College is populated.

The elites have never liked the Electoral College because it spreads power out. And just when they’ve gotten the system rigged, the state legislatures are threatening to take their power away. Again. Well too bad!


17 posted on 01/31/2013 12:02:01 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: Strategerist
In a way, that's how the Electoral College was set up from the get go. To prevent the tyranny of urban areas (states) over the rural ones. Look at Illinois in their last Governor's race where the Democrat "won" narrowly statewide. The Democrat won Cook County and just 3 other scattered counties (1 urban, 2 rural) while the Republican took everything else in a landslide. Nevermind that the race was rife with fraud, one should look at such a map and it's a no-brainer who should prevail:

(Note the proper color scheme of Red=Democrat and Blue=Republican)

18 posted on 01/31/2013 12:07:00 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

So lets say you had to explain to a black voter in Chicago why the vote of a white guy in Mattoon should count 2 or 3 or even 4 times as much as their vote?

What would your argument to them be?


19 posted on 01/31/2013 12:12:09 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: max americana

Republicans must be Republicans. Don’t try to be something they are not. This is the folly of the RINOS—you can’t out democrat Liberals by trying to copy them. They must go back to Reagans Roots. The Liberals are self destructing—let them. When the folks turn on Obama and his crew it will be ugly.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 12:22:41 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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