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From gay members to atheist scouts: The Boy Scouts America deserves
The Washington Post ^ | 1/29/2013 | Herb Silverman

Posted on 01/31/2013 2:04:01 PM PST by barmag25

That’s one small step for tolerance, but one giant leap for states’ rights. The modified policy would, in effect, kick the can down the road to local sponsors, who could continue the abominable policy of deeming gay teenagers too “immoral” to participate in Boy Scout activities.

There is no similar step forward for atheists. This modified policy would still require local groups to discriminate against atheists, apparently because the Boy Scout Oath implies that an atheist can’t be “morally straight” unless he can do his “duty to God.”

Using this twisted logic, a number of courageous and honest atheists have been kicked out of the Scouts for rejecting all supernatural beliefs. Among them was my friend Darrell Lambert, an Eagle Scout, who had been supported by his entire troop.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 01/31/2013 2:04:07 PM PST by barmag25
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To: barmag25

Should I have put a Barf alert on this?


2 posted on 01/31/2013 2:06:52 PM PST by barmag25
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To: barmag25

Declare themselves a ‘church’..............


3 posted on 01/31/2013 2:07:08 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: barmag25

Only the gay predators should be permitted to enter schools-to-boy scouts and use their conversion therapy to capture a generation willing to let them have their way. sarc
Little has changed with these degenerates since Sodom allowed homosexuals to use children at their pleasure. Note how male homosexuals have infiltrated every organization having a high population of children. Nambla and B4U-Act claim it is all about love and we do it for the children. Think about those icons of the gay community—Dahmer, Jackson, Gacey, Sandusky and 100s of priests and boy scout leaders caught raping young boys. And what do we do?—we allow them now to come into grade schools, the BSA and preach their lifestyle to children from 1st grade on. Are we really this uncivilized and backward?


4 posted on 01/31/2013 2:08:27 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Red Badger

Form their own dang group.....


5 posted on 01/31/2013 2:09:53 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: barmag25

Not this crap again.

Look, go start your own group. Might I recommend the “Rump Rangers” or “Gay Scouts” or “Rainbow Troop” or some such. Leave the BSA alone. We don’t want your perversion anywhere near our kids.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 2:14:48 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: barmag25

Atheists, I believe, are seriously mistaken in their non-belief. However, the key point about an atheist boy is that he doesn’t believe in a deity or any such thing (Buddhists don’t, exactly, either.)

The key, indeed the only, point about a “gay” boy or man is that he wants to have anal sex with the other troop members. THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.


7 posted on 01/31/2013 2:23:19 PM PST by Tax-chick (Make sure you notice when I'm being subtly ironic!)
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To: barmag25

Seems to me he can’t be “morally straight” unless he’s straight, either.

Some things just aren’t that complicated.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 2:27:55 PM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: barmag25

Once you admit you were wrong (even a little bit) you have forfeited your defense. Democrats understand this, which is why they yield NO ground on abortion!


9 posted on 01/31/2013 2:29:07 PM PST by Optimist
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To: barmag25

It’s a (Sam Kennison voice) CHRISTIAN organization for BOYS. Sheesh. What’s so controversial about that? It also allows participation by all faiths (Judaism, Islamic, Mormon, etc), but not outright Satanic or atheistic. There are plenty of secular originations and programs.


10 posted on 01/31/2013 2:30:54 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: uncommonsense

Does the girls scouts allow homosexuals as well?


11 posted on 01/31/2013 2:37:20 PM PST by shadeaud (We need to learn to know what our enemies are truly creating)
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To: uncommonsense

Do the girls scouts allow homosexuals as well?


12 posted on 01/31/2013 2:37:34 PM PST by shadeaud (We need to learn to know what our enemies are truly creating)
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To: jagusafr

As long as chastity is promoted in the Scouts it shouldn’t be a problem, at least as far as the boys are concerned. None of them are married, none of them are supposed to be having sex. I guess there could be an argument about masturbation, and whether one would consider a boy who regularly masturbates to be sexually impure, but that hasn’t been brought up yet for discussion. The Scout troop my son is in expects absoulte chastity.


13 posted on 01/31/2013 2:40:42 PM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: uncommonsense

The Washington Post offers no reciprocity and yet they would benefit immensely from having some Christians and straight people around the company.


14 posted on 01/31/2013 2:42:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: barmag25

Soviet Atheists Atrocities

Atheists today are embarrassed by the Soviet Atheist atrocities.So they claim communists did not kill in the name of atheism.

But the truth is that all those communist dictators were self proclaimed atheists that massacred millions of religious people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI6bLyBE3CE


15 posted on 01/31/2013 2:43:09 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: barmag25

Screw off, WP. keep your wickedness to yourself, and stop shoving it down our throats. As for the BSA, I am confidant that the two outspoken advocates of making the BSA the BSofNAMBLA will lose to the dozens others that are on the board who know what real values are and what fake “diversity” is.


16 posted on 01/31/2013 2:51:34 PM PST by FutureRocketMan (Santorum 2016)
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To: barmag25

It’s a self-barfing article from the WaCompost.


17 posted on 01/31/2013 2:53:35 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment is the First Human Right.)
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To: barmag25
Even though it's been fifty years, I can still remember the Boy Scouts code. I believe the last word is reverent. There is nobody putting a gun to anybody's head forcing them to join the Scouts. If they don't want to abide by the code, they can form their org. I know for a fact that there have been many homosexual Scouts, because I had a cousin who was one. But nobody knew it at the time, and I didn't find out my cousin was a homosexual until decades later.

At the time I was a Scout, I didn't know what heterosexual meant much less homosexual. Because nobody needs to know. If you're a homosexual Scout, keep it to yourself. Or get out and form your own org. Nobody's forcing you to be a Scout.

18 posted on 01/31/2013 2:53:51 PM PST by driftless2
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To: barmag25
the Boy Scout Oath implies that an atheist can’t be “morally straight” unless he can do his “duty to God.”

THE BOY SCOUT OATH: On my honor, I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

Time to borrow someone's Logic 101 book, douchebag. The Boy Scout oath pledges to be "morally straight" and to do one's "duty to God." It does not causally link the two. THAT exists only in the mind of the cretin who penned this specious gibberish.

19 posted on 01/31/2013 2:58:22 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: barmag25

Okay, since all these lefty journalist want to take away the Boy Scouts First Amendment rights of association, then we should take their press rights away and lock them up for treason.

See how simple it is to promote a stupid idea?

Go F yourselves you stupid, left wing nut jobs.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 2:59:38 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: shadeaud

The GSA has been fully-infiltrated and is well-controlled by them, judging by what I’ve heard from former GSA members, and seen on a local level.


21 posted on 01/31/2013 3:00:15 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment is the First Human Right.)
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To: barmag25
Leftist rags such as the Washington Post never stop their attempts to foster the queening of America.

The Boy Scouts have every right to exclude those who do not conform to the longstanding tenets of the organization. Calling it 'discrimination' to bar homosexuals from the Scouts is the height of irony when it's painfully obvious why the ban is in place. For atheists, an organization that puts God in the forefront of it's creed would seem to be a place they would never feel comfortable. That the left keeps pushing the Boy Scouts to abandon their own sensible rules for admission and uses the lame 'discrimination' argument while castigating the group all the while simply indicates that they are determined to destroy this fine organization that has done so much good for so many boys over the past 100 years. Obviously, that, alone, is reason enough for the left to despise it and do everything they can to infiltrate and destroy it. I'm confident that, despite a few wimpy board members poor decision, They will fail.

22 posted on 01/31/2013 3:04:33 PM PST by Jim Scott
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(MAJOR SARCASM ALERT!) We have it on good authority that the Boy Scouts are being pushed by Kevin Jennings to add this new and distinctive badge to the Scout program:

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The only thing sadder than this development is that this sort of crap no longer makes enough folks angry!

23 posted on 01/31/2013 3:55:23 PM PST by Dick Bachert ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." T. Jefferson)
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To: shadeaud
"Does the girls scouts allow homosexuals as well?"

Unfortunately, they caved several years ago. I don't understand why they think it's a good idea to let Sandusky types lead their children...

24 posted on 01/31/2013 5:33:05 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Optimist

“Once you admit you were wrong (even a little bit) you have forfeited your defense.”

I saw this same BS when John Paul II yielded on “altar girls”; he left it in the hands of the individual bishops (in an environment where no bishop could survive long without allowing them). I remember when the last bishop that didn’t allow them retired; I believe it is now in 100% of American dioceses, and there is NO WAY to turn that back. These little “priestesses-in-training” are here to stay; no wonder that outside of a few small factions, vocations are down and we are importing foreign clergy/religious. At this point those small factions are the last True Church, and FReepers and other factions will be the last True Americans.


25 posted on 01/31/2013 5:33:53 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: shadeaud

“Do the girls scouts allow homosexuals as well?”

Their creepy silence during this whole debate indicated to me early on that they certainly do (otherwise they would have been targeted). In my area these issues are moot because the scouts (both groups) are quickly disappearing, selling off land and merging groups.


26 posted on 01/31/2013 5:38:10 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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