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Unions Supported ObamaCare, Now Some Don't
Townhall.com ^ | January 31, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 01/31/2013 5:13:14 PM PST by Kaslin

Now that ObamaCare is actually happening, labor unions who made a big push for the legislation three years ago are no longer rallying behind it. Unions are seeing healthcare promises made by President Obama broken left and right in the form of higher costs, more bureaucracy, loss of doctors Obama promised they could keep, slashing of healthcare benefits and more.

Union leaders say many of the law's requirements will drive up the costs for their health-care plans and make unionized workers less competitive. Among other things, the law eliminates the caps on medical benefits and prescription drugs used as cost-containment measures in many health-care plans. It also allows children to stay on their parents' plans until they turn 26.

To offset that, the nation's largest labor groups want their lower-paid members to be able to get federal insurance subsidies while remaining on their plans. In the law, these subsidies were designed only for low-income workers without employer coverage as a way to help them buy private insurance.

During the crafting of ObamaCare, many labor groups begged for an exemption or waiver from the law and are still asking for one today despite publicly supporting Obama from start to finish.

In early talks, the Obama administration dismissed the idea of applying the subsidies to people in union-sponsored plans, according to officials from the trade group, the National Coordinating Committee for Multiemployer Plans, that represents these insurance plans. Contacted for this article, Obama administration officials said the issue is subject to regulations still being written.

ome 20 million Americans are covered by the health-care plans at issue in labor's push for subsidies. The plans are jointly managed by unions and employers and used mostly by small companies. They are popular in industries such as construction or trucking or hotels, where workers' hours fluctuate. By contrast, unionized workers at big employers such as Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. tend to have a more traditional insurance arrangement run through only one employer.

Top officers at the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, the AFL-CIO and other large labor groups plan to keep pressing the Obama administration to expand the federal subsidies to these jointly run plans, warning that unionized employers may otherwise drop coverage.

FLASHBACK: AFL-CIO's Richard Trumka touts driving ObamaCare "down the Republican's throat" and praises Nancy Pelosi for pushing through the legislation.

AFL-CIO Boss on Obamacare: 'We Drove it Down the Republican's Throat'

It should be noted ObamaCare opponents warned about these problems before the legislation was even written not to mention passed. Over to you, Michelle Malkin:

Thursdays With Michelle Malkin - Unions Want OUT of Obamacare! - Fox & Friends -


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: obamacare; unions; unions0care; unionsobamacare

1 posted on 01/31/2013 5:13:17 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Now that ObamaCare is actually happening, labor unions who made a big push for the legislation three years ago are no longer rallying behind it. Unions are seeing healthcare promises made by President Obama broken left and right in the form of higher costs, more bureaucracy, loss of doctors Obama promised they could keep, slashing of healthcare benefits and more.

"Let them eat Twinkies."

2 posted on 01/31/2013 5:18:07 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Kaslin

What’s up with the Neanderthals? ObamaCare has the “union label” all over it.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 5:19:56 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: Kaslin

Unions grab their own goodies and other citizens be damned until it hits the unionistas in their own keisters and then their moaning begins.


4 posted on 01/31/2013 5:22:03 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Kaslin

Oh boo-hoo! Serves them all right for believing the lies.


5 posted on 01/31/2013 5:22:31 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Kaslin
I will always remember Nancy Pelosi saying that Congress had to pass the ObamaCare Act in order to know what was inside it that it was not appropriate to allow people enough time to read it before voting on it.

Maybe some unions will not stop supporting Democrats.....nah, that isn't going to happen.

6 posted on 01/31/2013 5:25:15 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Kaslin
Imagine that; the Democrats lied to their friends as well as everybody else.

But do you think the unions will wise up and abandon the Democrats.

Not a chance. They just keep going back to the Democrats for more and more federal dollars. “Give us the subsidies that you give the poor.” Fools! Where do you think that money comes from?

You can’t keep bleeding the golden goose and expect it to keep laying golden eggs. The golden goose is an emaciated shadow these days. It can’ hold out much longer.

7 posted on 01/31/2013 5:27:18 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m wondering how they’ll spin this to claim it’s all the Republicans’ fault. They’ll do it — no doubt about it.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 5:27:33 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Kaslin

The unions want to unionize all healthcare workers. More union members = more dues $$$ = more political power. ObamaCare is just a means to an end: single payer federalized healthcare.


9 posted on 01/31/2013 5:30:04 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Robert357
plan to keep pressing the Obama administration to expand the federal subsidies to these jointly run plans

So what's a couple hundred billion $$ a year more...no problem.

Call Lew and Bernanke, get it handled.

10 posted on 01/31/2013 5:31:29 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Kaslin

I hate to break the news to the union (workers), but Obamacare is LAW OF THE LAND. Perhaps they should have spent less time HATING conservatives and a bit more time listening to us.


11 posted on 01/31/2013 5:33:02 PM PST by BobL
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To: Kaslin; All; everyone
 

12 posted on 01/31/2013 5:35:03 PM PST by potlatch
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To: Kaslin
I thought Union members were exempt from Obamacare.
13 posted on 01/31/2013 5:35:03 PM PST by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: Kaslin
You mean to tell me those unions that applied for and easily got a waiver are no longer for it? who woulda thunk it?
14 posted on 01/31/2013 5:37:55 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Kaslin
It is hilarious to see the union thugs getting what they deserve. Math and logic there could never overcome pure greed. They actually thought they could maintain the we are "more equal than everyone else" because as organized mob, they have the "muscle" to enforce extortion from ultimately all consumers.
Sorry, morons, you can't pretend math doesn't exist, and that deficit spending is limitless.

You voted for the impossible, now suck it up.
You can always change jobs if you are worth more; but you can never fix stupid!

Bye!

15 posted on 01/31/2013 5:42:25 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Kaslin

It’s a little damned late since they not only supported it, they supported the same sons of bitches who passed it AGAIN.


16 posted on 01/31/2013 5:44:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: nobody

17 posted on 01/31/2013 5:53:37 PM PST by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---Barak Hasan Obama II--- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----)
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To: Nobody




18 posted on 01/31/2013 5:56:30 PM PST by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---Barak Hasan Obama II--- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----)
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To: Kaslin

“Union leaders say many of the law’s requirements will drive up the costs for their health-care plans and make unionized workers less competitive.”

The unions made their workers less competitive on their own; 50 years from now they’ll say the decline of unions started with Obamacare, and there won’t be many around to know the truth.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 5:56:30 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: somebody

It just feels like that sometimes


20 posted on 01/31/2013 5:58:54 PM PST by potlatch
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To: Anybody

Yep


21 posted on 01/31/2013 6:01:45 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Hi BG, been a long time and so good to “see” you!
Notice that I didn’t put “nobody”, lol


22 posted on 01/31/2013 6:20:45 PM PST by potlatch
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To: Kaslin

In the meantime, the political elites who pulled every dirty trick possible o push it down America’s throat are laying low.

It seems that the people who can’t wait to claim credit for everything under the sun that they think makes them look good, don’t want the credit for this.

I wonder why?


23 posted on 01/31/2013 6:46:16 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: Kaslin
seeing healthcare promises made by President Obama broken left and right in the form of higher costs, more bureaucracy, loss of doctors Obama promised they could keep, slashing of healthcare benefits and more.

Let's call it what it REALLY is: As a sitting President of the United States, Obama committed fraud against the citizens of this country.

Sad thing is, it is neither the first nor last time he has done it. Citizens cannot lie to the government but they pi$$ on us with their lies every day . . . ESPECIALLY Obama.

24 posted on 01/31/2013 7:17:43 PM PST by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: RatRipper
"As a sitting President of the United States, Obama committed fraud against the citizens of this country."

...and the media committed fraud to create and elect him. Now the question is; "What was is their purpose?"

25 posted on 01/31/2013 7:52:05 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: potlatch
Notice that I didn’t put “nobody”, lol

HAR! Yes, I did (not) notice that (till you pointed it out! :)

Hope all's well with you?

26 posted on 01/31/2013 8:07:44 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Sent you a FReepmail BG


27 posted on 01/31/2013 8:20:12 PM PST by potlatch
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To: potlatch

Sent ya one back, pot. Latch.


28 posted on 01/31/2013 8:36:24 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Kaslin

There is only ONE thing to know about how GREAT Obamacare is........CONGRESS HAS EXEMPTED THEMSELVES FROM IT....and OBAMA WILL NEVER BE ON IT!!!


29 posted on 02/01/2013 4:16:22 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Kaslin

Unions: “We backed you even as you were plunging a knife into us. Now, please take the knife out and just continue to screw all the other folks. Hey. Can you hear me? Did you just hang up? I’m not believing this - you PROMISED. Crap, we’re screwed just like the rest. How in the Hell did this happen?”


30 posted on 02/01/2013 5:01:26 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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