Skip to comments.O'Mara: State unlocked trove of info from Trayvon's cellphone
Posted on 01/31/2013 5:44:16 PM PST by Uncle Chip
New court paperwork reveals that prosecutors have unlocked a great deal more information from Trayvon Martin's cellphone, including satellite-tracking information that shows where it was in the days leading up to his shooting.
But if it also lays out the teenager's movements Feb. 26 the day Trayvon was shot and killed by George Zimmerman prosecutors have not released that to defense attorneys.
Defense attorney Mark O'Mara disclosed that information Wednesday in a new court filing, one asking for more time to prepare for trial.
Information from Trayvon's phone is one example. The Android-powered smartphone was found near his body, its battery dead, the night of the shooting. It's a key piece of evidence because a young Miami woman says she was on the phone with him moments before the shooting and overheard the conversation between Trayvon and Zimmerman.
Sanford police and Florida Department of Law Enforcement employees had limited success finding out what was on the phone because they were "locked out," the consequence of someone trying repeatedly without the proper password or PIN to gain access to its data.
The state then shipped the phone to a law-enforcement agency in California for more analysis, O'Mara wrote in his new motion, then sent it to a New Jersey company, which successfully unlocked the data in its flash memory, including GPS information that showed its changing locations.
What it found has not been made public.
"It shows you within 10 feet where the phone is," O'Mara told the Orlando Sentinel.
De la Rionda provided those new findings to defense attorneys Jan. 18, O'Mara wrote, but with a gaping hole.
(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...
"Maybe it's coincidence, but I'm way past [believing it's] coincidence," O'Mara said.
I'm hereby dubbing that the "Skittles gap".
Motion for Specific Discovery filed today:
Enjoy your Superbowl weekend, Bernie.
He knew MULTIPLE drug-dealers, and was on-scene at the time of multiple robberies.
Looks like Florida is going the way of Nifong in NC, with laughably transparent attempts to wish away all the evidence they have that exonerates Zimmerman, arrogantly thinking that nobody will notice or be able to do anything about it.
I wonder if it is standard procedure for the state to drag out cases in hopes of bankrupting defendants. If so, every defendant with a “not guilty” verdict should have financial recourse against the state.
Ask Mike Nifong.
I wonder if ANY of the LaCrosse players have yet seen even ONE RED CENT of their money...?
I believe not.
Why is his phone tracking his movements and who has access to that information? Things to keep you up at night.
That’s definitely part of the process.
That tracking is for your safety,of course.
Don’t want your cellphone reporting every move ?
Then get a metal can with metal lid and pop the phone inside when you don’t want to be tracked.But you won’t be able to receive or make calls or play games or listen to your music or .....
Even this sounds fishy. I have to guess that the "someone" banging away on the phone until it locked was whatever LEO picked it up.
It is pretty well known when you are going to be tried by the federal gov’t, they do things like freeze your accounts to prevent you from hiring a good defense lawyer and make it easier to throw you under the bus.
> I wonder if it is standard procedure for the state to drag out cases in hopes of bankrupting defendants. If so, every defendant with a not guilty verdict should have financial recourse against the state.
Most mobile phones will do that, ping your location all recorded by phone company, which could be accessed by law enforcement doing an investigation... unless you turn off the phone AND remove the battery. Also if an malcontent or intelligence service was interested, they could send a bug, turn on the phone without one knowing, and listen in to anything spoken in the room around you. Israeli’s used to do this with regular phone taps, called a “glass”, so the phone would become a speaker.
Nice hi-tech stuff but what is on the cell phone will not help the prosecution one darn bit. This is disinformation, trying to cow the desfense
“...the feds have used certain techniques that virtually assure convictions of both the innocent and the guilty, the wealthy and the poor, the violent drug dealer and the white collar defendant, indifferent to the niceties of due process of law, particularly the right to effective assistance of legal counsel.
“In order to prevent a defendant from retaining a defense team of his choice, federal prosecutors will first freeze his assets, even though a jury has yet to find them to have been illegally obtained. They then bring prosecutions of almost unimaginable complexity, assuring that the financially hobbled defendants diminished legal team (or, as is often the case, his court-appointed lawyer) will be too overwhelmed to mount an adequate defense.”
The battery was dead??? That's the first I heard of that. If it had been dead all day, there would be no data for that day, nor could he have had the conversation with the gal pal. But then, he wouldn't be carrying it either, so the battery probably wasn't dead. The cops just couldn't get it to stay on w/o the passcode.
Meanwhile, the prosecutors are stonewalling the defense, hoping Zimmerman will run out of money for the lawyer before they run out of wall. It's pretty obvious.
To date, just about everything the prosecution has uncovered and released about Trayvon support’s Zimmerman’s story.
But, when they eventually have to give up because they can’t make their case, where does George Zimmerman go to get his reputation and his life back?
Has a defence fund been set up for him yet?
Yes. But I don’t know the website.
= It will show Martin's curious zigzag journey through the apartment neighborhood before Zimmerman ever laid eyes on him.
FREE TRAYVON NOW!!!
uh oh...wrong forum.
Having worked within the law enforcement relations department at a major cell phone provider. I’m not buying this. They can triangulate in real time. They can figure out which cell towers you are/were pinging by looking at data records. This is not GPS, however.
Towers and phones track a LOT of data, but your precise location was not ever included in any of our subpoenas. The closest we could get was identifying towers that the phone was closest to.
Now, in REAL time they can just use tower triangulation (or gps) to tell where a phone is, and pretty accurately. I’ve seen it done with triangulation alone. Amazingly accurate.
So, anytime your cell phone is on, you are being tracked.
I was actually involved in designing the reports we gave law enforcement in response to subpoenas. There were a LOT of data points, but this kind of accuracy was not one of them. If we had been trayvon’s provider, we could tell law enforcement that he was in the apartment complex at that time even if he was not making a call. The reason? His phone’s pings to the tower would tell us which tower he was near.
That’s about it. If they can track more than that in some way I was never made aware of, it wasn’t in any of the reports we generated in response to subpoenas. They were usually used to show that a person was NEAR a particular place at a particular time based on what tower he was pinging. And that data is stored for at least seven years.
If you are up to nefarious stuff, do what drug dealers do - use a prepaid phone and throw it away when you’re done with it.
As a resident of Seminole County I am getting torqued w how much the prosecutors are wasting my tax dollars pushing the case
Zimmerman is innocent...and the prosecutors know it....its time to drop the case.
Zimmerman is going to make some attorneys quite rich after this is over
Did it die after talking to his girlfriend?
Doesn’t take much “banging” on the password to lock the phone up. 3 wrong passwords in a row, repeated 2-3 times with a few minutes delay, will lock mine up until I plug it I to a host computer. Any idiot will be tempted to try.
Hell, all they needed to do was: 1. Charge the damn battery. 2.Call the provider with the 15 digit IMEI, and ask for the frigging PUK code. Not that tough.
That would be extremely convenient timing, but it’s possible he talked it to death. But then the GPS records would exist for the day in question (up to the time the battery died) that the prosecution is stonewalling. Another possibility this brings to mind is the gal pal could be lying from start to finish when she claims to have had a conversation with St. Skittles.
I don’t think the battery was dead all day. He wouldn’t have been carrying it if it was. I think the dead battery is a ruse the prosecution is using to justify not giving up the legally requested GPS records for the day of the event. His traced path must be pretty damning for them to do this, unless they are simply stalling to run Zimmerman out of money and has to go with an incompetent Public Defender.
I know basically nothing about cellphones but I do know that mine is capable,through google,of tracking my location.One must check several approval boxes to set it up but it works surprisingly well.
It does work, but it drains the carp out of the battery. Which may explain a lot here.
Wow, this is so obviously a railroad job, it’s disgusting. How can the day of the crime GPS data be missing...it’s more likely been hidden.
The battery was dead on the phone when police took possession of it? How did he chat with DiDi on a dead phone?
The woman who made this report was a professional journalist. She should be on TV.
Your phone always know exactly where you are, or turn by turn navigation would not be possible.
The question is whether the phone records the exact data. It does for a fact record data points that are used for the phone to locate cell towers. I once had a utility to download that file and impose the points onto a map. They all promised to quit doing that but I doubt they did.
They for sure can know any phone calls he made and any txt messages that were sent.