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O'Mara: State unlocked trove of info from Trayvon's cellphone
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | January 31, 2013 | Rene Stutzman

Posted on 01/31/2013 5:44:16 PM PST by Uncle Chip

New court paperwork reveals that prosecutors have unlocked a great deal more information from Trayvon Martin's cellphone, including satellite-tracking information that shows where it was in the days leading up to his shooting.

But if it also lays out the teenager's movements Feb. 26 — the day Trayvon was shot and killed by George Zimmerman — prosecutors have not released that to defense attorneys.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara disclosed that information Wednesday in a new court filing, one asking for more time to prepare for trial.

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Information from Trayvon's phone is one example. The Android-powered smartphone was found near his body, its battery dead, the night of the shooting. It's a key piece of evidence because a young Miami woman says she was on the phone with him moments before the shooting and overheard the conversation between Trayvon and Zimmerman.

Sanford police and Florida Department of Law Enforcement employees had limited success finding out what was on the phone because they were "locked out," the consequence of someone trying repeatedly without the proper password or PIN to gain access to its data.

The state then shipped the phone to a law-enforcement agency in California for more analysis, O'Mara wrote in his new motion, then sent it to a New Jersey company, which successfully unlocked the data in its flash memory, including GPS information that showed its changing locations.

What it found has not been made public.

"It shows you within 10 feet where the phone is," O'Mara told the Orlando Sentinel.

De la Rionda provided those new findings to defense attorneys Jan. 18, O'Mara wrote, but with a gaping hole.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin; zimmerman
"While the analysis includes GPS locating records for Mr. Martin's phone for all of the time he was in the Sanford area, specifically absent is any such data from February 26, 2012, the date of the event," O'Mara wrote.

"Maybe it's coincidence, but I'm way past [believing it's] coincidence," O'Mara said.

1 posted on 01/31/2013 5:44:27 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
"While the analysis includes GPS locating records for Mr. Martin's phone for all of the time he was in the Sanford area, specifically absent is any such data from February 26, 2012, the date of the event..."

I'm hereby dubbing that the "Skittles gap".

2 posted on 01/31/2013 5:47:35 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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Motion for Specific Discovery filed today:

http://184.172.211.159/~gzdocs/documents/0113/motion_for_specific_disc.pdf

Enjoy your Superbowl weekend, Bernie.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 5:48:03 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Lemme guess:

He knew MULTIPLE drug-dealers, and was on-scene at the time of multiple robberies.

RIGHT?


4 posted on 01/31/2013 5:51:26 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Uncle Chip
I'm requesting Franz Kafka's, The Trial, from my library right after I post.
5 posted on 01/31/2013 5:52:38 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Uncle Chip
What happens when a prosecutor withholds Brady evidence?

/johnny

6 posted on 01/31/2013 5:53:54 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip

Looks like Florida is going the way of Nifong in NC, with laughably transparent attempts to wish away all the evidence they have that exonerates Zimmerman, arrogantly thinking that nobody will notice or be able to do anything about it.


7 posted on 01/31/2013 5:54:34 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Uncle Chip

I wonder if it is standard procedure for the state to drag out cases in hopes of bankrupting defendants. If so, every defendant with a “not guilty” verdict should have financial recourse against the state.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 5:55:49 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ask Mike Nifong.


9 posted on 01/31/2013 5:57:24 PM PST by abb
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To: Uncle Chip

I wonder if ANY of the LaCrosse players have yet seen even ONE RED CENT of their money...?

I believe not.


10 posted on 01/31/2013 5:59:56 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Uncle Chip

Why is his phone tracking his movements and who has access to that information? Things to keep you up at night.


11 posted on 01/31/2013 6:04:02 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: RightOnTheBorder

That’s definitely part of the process.


12 posted on 01/31/2013 6:08:21 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: jwalsh07

That tracking is for your safety,of course.

Don’t want your cellphone reporting every move ?
Then get a metal can with metal lid and pop the phone inside when you don’t want to be tracked.But you won’t be able to receive or make calls or play games or listen to your music or .....


13 posted on 01/31/2013 6:09:42 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Uncle Chip
Sanford police and Florida Department of Law Enforcement employees had limited success finding out what was on the phone because they were "locked out," the consequence of someone trying repeatedly without the proper password or PIN to gain access to its data.

Even this sounds fishy. I have to guess that the "someone" banging away on the phone until it locked was whatever LEO picked it up.

14 posted on 01/31/2013 6:11:04 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

It is pretty well known when you are going to be tried by the federal gov’t, they do things like freeze your accounts to prevent you from hiring a good defense lawyer and make it easier to throw you under the bus.

> I wonder if it is standard procedure for the state to drag out cases in hopes of bankrupting defendants. If so, every defendant with a “not guilty” verdict should have financial recourse against the state.


15 posted on 01/31/2013 6:11:18 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: jwalsh07

Most mobile phones will do that, ping your location all recorded by phone company, which could be accessed by law enforcement doing an investigation... unless you turn off the phone AND remove the battery. Also if an malcontent or intelligence service was interested, they could send a bug, turn on the phone without one knowing, and listen in to anything spoken in the room around you. Israeli’s used to do this with regular phone taps, called a “glass”, so the phone would become a speaker.


16 posted on 01/31/2013 6:13:18 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Uncle Chip

Nice hi-tech stuff but what is on the cell phone will not help the prosecution one darn bit. This is disinformation, trying to cow the desfense


17 posted on 01/31/2013 6:14:30 PM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: All

“...the feds have used certain techniques that virtually assure convictions of both the innocent and the guilty, the wealthy and the poor, the violent drug dealer and the white collar defendant, indifferent to the niceties of “due process of law,” particularly the right to effective assistance of legal counsel.

“In order to prevent a defendant from retaining a defense team of his choice, federal prosecutors will first freeze his assets, even though a jury has yet to find them to have been illegally obtained. They then bring prosecutions of almost unimaginable complexity, assuring that the financially hobbled defendant’s diminished legal team (or, as is often the case, his court-appointed lawyer) will be too overwhelmed to mount an adequate defense.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/harveysilverglate/2013/01/03/black-whitey-how-the-feds-disable-criminal-defense/


18 posted on 01/31/2013 6:16:14 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Uncle Chip
The Android-powered smartphone was found near his body, its battery dead, the night of the shooting.

The battery was dead??? That's the first I heard of that. If it had been dead all day, there would be no data for that day, nor could he have had the conversation with the gal pal. But then, he wouldn't be carrying it either, so the battery probably wasn't dead. The cops just couldn't get it to stay on w/o the passcode.

Meanwhile, the prosecutors are stonewalling the defense, hoping Zimmerman will run out of money for the lawyer before they run out of wall. It's pretty obvious.

19 posted on 01/31/2013 6:23:13 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Uncle Chip

To date, just about everything the prosecution has uncovered and released about Trayvon support’s Zimmerman’s story.

But, when they eventually have to give up because they can’t make their case, where does George Zimmerman go to get his reputation and his life back?


20 posted on 01/31/2013 6:39:10 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Meanwhile, the prosecutors are stonewalling the defense, hoping Zimmerman will run out of money for the lawyer before they run out of wall. It's pretty obvious.

Has a defence fund been set up for him yet?

21 posted on 01/31/2013 6:41:18 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower

Yes. But I don’t know the website.


22 posted on 01/31/2013 6:43:47 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Uncle Chip
"It shows you within 10 feet where the phone is," O'Mara told the Orlando Sentinel.

= It will show Martin's curious zigzag journey through the apartment neighborhood before Zimmerman ever laid eyes on him.

23 posted on 01/31/2013 6:57:45 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Uncle Chip

FREE TRAYVON NOW!!!

uh oh...wrong forum.


24 posted on 01/31/2013 6:57:58 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Uncle Chip

Having worked within the law enforcement relations department at a major cell phone provider. I’m not buying this. They can triangulate in real time. They can figure out which cell towers you are/were pinging by looking at data records. This is not GPS, however.

Towers and phones track a LOT of data, but your precise location was not ever included in any of our subpoenas. The closest we could get was identifying towers that the phone was closest to.

Now, in REAL time they can just use tower triangulation (or gps) to tell where a phone is, and pretty accurately. I’ve seen it done with triangulation alone. Amazingly accurate.


25 posted on 01/31/2013 7:12:41 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: jwalsh07; All
All cell phones have their movements tracked. The Clinton administration had it put into law in the 1990’s. They did it very fast after a woman was trapped in her car in a blizzard and they could talk to her but not find her. It would have been easy to build in a switch to turn the function on or off, but the legislation did not allow for that....

So, anytime your cell phone is on, you are being tracked.

26 posted on 01/31/2013 7:12:41 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

I was actually involved in designing the reports we gave law enforcement in response to subpoenas. There were a LOT of data points, but this kind of accuracy was not one of them. If we had been trayvon’s provider, we could tell law enforcement that he was in the apartment complex at that time even if he was not making a call. The reason? His phone’s pings to the tower would tell us which tower he was near.

That’s about it. If they can track more than that in some way I was never made aware of, it wasn’t in any of the reports we generated in response to subpoenas. They were usually used to show that a person was NEAR a particular place at a particular time based on what tower he was pinging. And that data is stored for at least seven years.

If you are up to nefarious stuff, do what drug dealers do - use a prepaid phone and throw it away when you’re done with it.


27 posted on 01/31/2013 7:20:40 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Feb. 26 — the day Trayvon was shot in self defense and killed by George Zimmerman — prosecutors have not released that to defense attorneys because they are afraid of how it tears their obviously trumped up case to shreds.
28 posted on 01/31/2013 7:23:42 PM PST by wiseBRILLIANTgenius
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To: Uncle Chip

As a resident of Seminole County I am getting torqued w how much the prosecutors are wasting my tax dollars pushing the case

Zimmerman is innocent...and the prosecutors know it....its time to drop the case.

Zimmerman is going to make some attorneys quite rich after this is over


29 posted on 01/31/2013 7:25:07 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Did it die after talking to his girlfriend?


30 posted on 01/31/2013 7:36:49 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: jiggyboy

Doesn’t take much “banging” on the password to lock the phone up. 3 wrong passwords in a row, repeated 2-3 times with a few minutes delay, will lock mine up until I plug it I to a host computer. Any idiot will be tempted to try.


31 posted on 01/31/2013 7:41:00 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: jwalsh07

Hell, all they needed to do was: 1. Charge the damn battery. 2.Call the provider with the 15 digit IMEI, and ask for the frigging PUK code. Not that tough.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 7:44:22 PM PST by Lumper20 (`)
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To: sgtyork

That would be extremely convenient timing, but it’s possible he talked it to death. But then the GPS records would exist for the day in question (up to the time the battery died) that the prosecution is stonewalling. Another possibility this brings to mind is the gal pal could be lying from start to finish when she claims to have had a conversation with St. Skittles.

I don’t think the battery was dead all day. He wouldn’t have been carrying it if it was. I think the dead battery is a ruse the prosecution is using to justify not giving up the legally requested GPS records for the day of the event. His traced path must be pretty damning for them to do this, unless they are simply stalling to run Zimmerman out of money and has to go with an incompetent Public Defender.


33 posted on 01/31/2013 7:51:34 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: jwalsh07
Why is his phone tracking his movements and who has access to that information? Things to keep you up at night.

I know basically nothing about cellphones but I do know that mine is capable,through google,of tracking my location.One must check several approval boxes to set it up but it works surprisingly well.

34 posted on 01/31/2013 7:53:57 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Gay State Conservative

It does work, but it drains the carp out of the battery. Which may explain a lot here.


35 posted on 01/31/2013 8:01:54 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Bellflower

http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/index.php/how-has-money-been-spent


36 posted on 01/31/2013 10:10:58 PM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Uncle Chip

Wow, this is so obviously a railroad job, it’s disgusting. How can the day of the crime GPS data be missing...it’s more likely been hidden.

The battery was dead on the phone when police took possession of it? How did he chat with DiDi on a dead phone?

The woman who made this report was a professional journalist. She should be on TV.


37 posted on 02/01/2013 12:03:46 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Gay State Conservative
I know basically nothing about cellphones but I do know that mine is capable,through google,of tracking my location.

Your phone always know exactly where you are, or turn by turn navigation would not be possible.

The question is whether the phone records the exact data. It does for a fact record data points that are used for the phone to locate cell towers. I once had a utility to download that file and impose the points onto a map. They all promised to quit doing that but I doubt they did.

They for sure can know any phone calls he made and any txt messages that were sent.

38 posted on 02/01/2013 2:34:26 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Bump


39 posted on 02/01/2013 3:29:02 AM PST by kanawa
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To: marktwain
It would have been easy to build in a switch to turn the function on or off, but the legislation did not allow for that.

No it wouldn't. The only way to turn it off is to turn of the phone. ANY radio signal can be triangulated and the triangulation is done from the other end, the cell towers. If your phone is on then it can be tracked. This is not new. You can track a CB or any other radio the same way. They only difference is that because there are so many cell towers it is fast and easy to track a cell phone.
40 posted on 02/01/2013 6:35:26 AM PST by TalonDJ
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