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Hostage drama drags on after Alabama school bus shooting
The Chicago Tribune ^ | 31 January 2013 | Phil Sears

Posted on 01/31/2013 6:48:02 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

MIDLAND CITY, Alabama (Reuters) - A gunman suspected of fatally shooting an Alabama school bus driver before holing up in an underground bunker with a young child is a Vietnam veteran with anti-government views, authorities and an organization that tracks hate groups said on Wednesday. Law enforcement officials from multiple agencies were bivouacked near the bunker in Midland City but offered few details about a standoff with the shooter that stretched into its second day on Wednesday.Authorities said driver Charles Albert Poland Jr., 66, was killed after the gunman boarded a bus ferrying more than 20 children home from school on Tuesday.

The suspect demanded the driver let a student off the bus, Alabama media reported. When Poland refused, the man boarded the bus and shot the driver before taking a 6-year-old kindergarten student and fleeing the scene.

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KEYWORDS: alabama; hostage; schoolbus; schoolshooting; shooting
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This whole incident is being hushed up for some reason. Very few informative stories in the media anywhere. Interesting. Wonder why?

I know of another fella living in the deep south in a bunker like that and his neighbors religiously leave him alone. Wonder if the authorities are going to look into his situation?

1 posted on 01/31/2013 6:48:07 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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“This whole incident is being hushed up for some reason. Very few informative stories in the media anywhere. Interesting. Wonder why? “

Because the guy has a TV in his bunker and they are being careful to not make the situation worse with TV coverage.


2 posted on 01/31/2013 6:51:04 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Didn’t John Kerry also serve in Vietnam...


3 posted on 01/31/2013 6:52:31 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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So THAT’S why they surrounded a hole in the ground with the equivalent of an armored division.


4 posted on 01/31/2013 6:53:33 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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I cannot imagine that being my child in there.


5 posted on 01/31/2013 6:55:07 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Yeah, noticed that too. Does it take that many LEOs to contain one guy in a bunker? This is all very interesting, to say the least. Wonder what’s going on where these guys are supposed to be working while they are on location there in Alabama?


6 posted on 01/31/2013 6:56:53 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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This is nuts and I'm really contemplating getting the tinfoil out.

Another shooting involving young children and possibly another “prepper”. A veteran with some kind of bunker no less.

Imagine they have psych experts devoted to the cause that scour the web for posts by insane people. Then use psychology to get those politically useful people to attack. If the shooter and hard drive is gone, there's no evidence.

7 posted on 01/31/2013 6:57:00 PM PST by varyouga
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Gotta agree with you and (reluctantly) praise the media for this. They are downplaying this story in hopes of saving the boy.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 6:58:24 PM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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We live near this, it has been on the local news a lot. I cannot even imagine what these parents are going through. As a mom, I would be going nuts at this point.

Another case of a crazy, mentally-unstable, disturbed maniac who goes about as he pleases. Nothing can be done. People just ignore it or toss it aside as ‘strange’ or don’t know what else to do. And then they kill and cause chaos. I’m tired of hearing about these people...something needs to be done to ensure safety of the general public from these loons.


9 posted on 01/31/2013 7:03:02 PM PST by AUJenn
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Didn’t John Kerry also serve in Vietnam...

Yes, and that is why the Department of Propaganda and its lapdog media spin doctors are working furiously to tie this guy to those evil Tea Party Swift Boaters.

10 posted on 01/31/2013 7:03:14 PM PST by immadashell
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We live near this, it has been on the local news a lot. I cannot even imagine what these parents are going through. As a mom, I would be going nuts at this point.

Another case of a crazy, mentally-unstable, disturbed maniac who goes about as he pleases. Nothing can be done. People just ignore it or toss it aside as ‘strange’ or don’t know what else to do. And then they kill and cause chaos. I’m tired of hearing about these people...something needs to be done to ensure safety of the general public from these loons.


11 posted on 01/31/2013 7:03:15 PM PST by AUJenn
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The day he took the boy hostage, he was supposed to be in court. My guess is that is what put him over the edge.

I hope everything ends with no more being hurt. I would not try to kill the guy but if that is what it takes to save the kid, then he has been bought and paid for.


12 posted on 01/31/2013 7:09:56 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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Well, another fella lives in a bunker in that part of the country, but I don’t see the authorities looking in to what his problem may be. Maybe they need to start investigating folks who are recluses like that. Perhaps a little “mental-health profiling” is in order.


13 posted on 01/31/2013 7:14:22 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Nothing can be done.

Oh yes, something can be done.

14 posted on 01/31/2013 7:15:35 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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They’re saying now according to some neighbor that he’s an anti-government type (who isn’t these days).

If he didn’t have the bunker it would be Ruby Ridge all over again. Anyone see the assault vehicles?


15 posted on 01/31/2013 7:17:49 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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it so they ALL can brag they were there... happens every time

simple overkill

16 posted on 01/31/2013 7:22:16 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Anyone see the assault vehicles? He DID kill a 66-year-old bus driver. I mean, he should be shot if he doesn't surrender pretty soon. Pretty bad person for doing that AND grabbing a 5-year-old. What about the thugs in Chicago who kill innocents and then hide out in the projects? Is the cop army looking for them? Hmmmmm????
17 posted on 01/31/2013 7:22:34 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Now, if some homeys in Chicago decided to attack a school bus and wiped out some of the competition, would we see an equal total law enforcement action like this? I mean, they don’t do much when they kill anyone else. No big manhunt for the killer of that inauguration girl, was there? Or, was there?


18 posted on 01/31/2013 7:25:02 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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ABC radio news had a blurb on this this morning. They made sure to mention he had anti-government views. Said this was “known” about him. Funny how quickly the media can establish motivations when they want to. Apparently the hostage negotiators are talking with him through a pipe. They also reported the boy is autistic.


19 posted on 01/31/2013 7:28:52 PM PST by Yardstick
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I read that he was supposed to be in court on charges of threatening another neighbor at gunpoint. So he long since went over the edge, this is going ‘round the bend.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 7:32:59 PM PST by EDINVA
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