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US Senate Shoots Down Bid to Halt Sales of F-16s, Tanks to Egypt
Cybercast News Service ^ | January 31, 2013 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 01/31/2013 7:20:51 PM PST by Olog-hai

The U.S. Senate Thursday defeated an amendment that aimed to prevent the Obama administration from transferring F-16 fighter aircraft and Abrams tanks to an Egypt in disarray.

A vote to block the measure proposed by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)—an amendment to the debt limit bill—passed by a 79–19 vote.

In a strong-worded floor statement Paul questioned the wisdom of providing the sophisticated weaponry at a time when “many see Egypt descending into chaos.” …

“I think this is particularly unwise since Egypt is currently governed by a religious zealot, a religious zealot who said recently that Jews were ‘bloodsuckers’ and ‘descendants of apes and pigs,’” he said. “This doesn’t sound like the kind of stable personality that we would be sending our most sophisticated weapons to.” …

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 113th; armsbuildup; egypt; mohammedmorsi; morsi; randfail; randpail; senate4alqaeda; senate4crucifixion; senate4ikhwan; senate4islam; senate4slavery; senateservesikhwan; senatevsisrael; waronterror
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1 posted on 01/31/2013 7:20:59 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“Sales” is kind of a subjective term in situations like this.

As I understand it the sale involves us giving them the money to give to someone else and we give them the jets (and our money).


2 posted on 01/31/2013 7:24:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

This is on the shoulders of the manufacturers as well.

They, themselves, should protest. They could stop the physical transfer of the materials from their property, but I’m not holding my breath.

Everyday, our Government gives us a new reason to question their competency.

....clearly, our Congress is bought and sold.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 7:25:52 PM PST by Noamie
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To: Olog-hai

Our senate is slime.

Period.


4 posted on 01/31/2013 7:26:24 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: cripplecreek

So this is a roundabout way of subsidizing the Military-Industrial complex and giving Egypt jets that they can’t really use. Big surprise.


5 posted on 01/31/2013 7:30:49 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: Olog-hai

I heard career politician Senator Sessions on the radio today say this was a tough vote because we have long standing arrangements. Anyone with a brain knows giving the Egyptians 200 tanks and 50 planes will only be used to kill Israelis. Shame Sessions Shame. Retire and go home. Boo...get off the stage.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 7:30:49 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Noamie

Maybe they should just add an EXTRA circuit to these tanks and fighters that might ACCIDENTALLY cause the electronics to fuse into a smoking lump at the most inopportune time.


7 posted on 01/31/2013 7:32:55 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: samadams2000

By the way he sounded like a clueless bastard living in his own bubble. We have a serious problem for those who aren’t paying attention.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 7:33:19 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Da Coyote
I have come to understand Caligula.
9 posted on 01/31/2013 7:34:49 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: samadams2000
Anyone with a brain knows giving the Egyptians 200 tanks and 50 planes will only be used to kill Israelis.

You're right. Are our people nuts?

10 posted on 01/31/2013 7:34:59 PM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: Olog-hai

Chicken Shiite senate. They must go, and I don’t mean via election, because we know that doesn’t work.


11 posted on 01/31/2013 7:36:28 PM PST by crosshairs (All we are saying, is give a high cap piece a chance.)
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To: samadams2000

Long standing arrangements agreed to by that idiot Jimmy Carter. And the government he agreed with is no longer standing.

And those arrangements never committed us to supplying them with planes and tanks and the like, unless we saw fit.

These guys are a bunch of corrupt pork-grubbers. I suppose they figure if they vote against it, Obama the Muslim will give them less pork.


12 posted on 01/31/2013 7:41:13 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Olog-hai
Of course my fine conservative, TEA Party supported Senator from PA, Pat Toomey voted in favor of Egypt. He also voted for John F'n Kerry. I wrote him last week about gun control. I received a limp wristed, pussy letter saying that he is open to new laws to keep our children safe. He has no principles. And now I think he is either an idiot or a Democrat in drag. Maybe he is both.

I do not think I will waste my time on writing him in the future. I am going to be too busy packing my bags for TX.

13 posted on 01/31/2013 7:44:53 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Toomey always was a phony. Rhode Island liberal and Harvard graduate. How the Tea Party was suckered by him, I can’t figure out.


14 posted on 01/31/2013 7:50:51 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: GOPJ

We are not selling them the latest and greatest versions of this stuff and we can cut off parts supply’s at any time.

The Israelis would kill them if they got bold.


15 posted on 01/31/2013 7:50:54 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Olog-hai

Paul redeemed himself partially after his disappointing Kerry vote, but Cruz is the man now.


16 posted on 01/31/2013 7:51:47 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Olog-hai

I wonder how many of the 79 are Jews willing to sell out Israel for their 30 pieces of silver.


17 posted on 01/31/2013 7:52:38 PM PST by kempster
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To: Olog-hai

Am I still in the right country? In the United States, giving arms to the enemy is considered treason.


18 posted on 01/31/2013 7:55:04 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: ConservativeInPA
Toomey has also been a real disappointment to me.
19 posted on 01/31/2013 7:55:08 PM PST by mickie (My grandson is a Marine.....now serving in Afghanistan.)
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To: Olog-hai

So now Rand Paul owes Reid one for letting his amendment get voted on...

That’s not good. Maybe it’ll be worth it but I doubt it.


20 posted on 01/31/2013 7:55:21 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Olog-hai

79 votes to arm our avowed enemies (who, not incidentally, bomb Christian churches and beat up Christians in the streets). 79 votes!!! May God bless and save America


21 posted on 01/31/2013 7:55:53 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: mylife

Exactly, and, the Egyptian army will need the stuff when they have to roll over the bloodthirsty muzzie mobs, and eventually, Morsi and his jihadist regime.


22 posted on 01/31/2013 8:02:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Olog-hai

Take a look at the roll call vote and remind each of the numerous RINOs that voted for it that they WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!


23 posted on 01/31/2013 8:06:58 PM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: Olog-hai

Does anyone have roll-call?
I’m looking to see how Dan Coats (R-IN) voted.

TIA.


24 posted on 01/31/2013 8:10:33 PM PST by Hazelwood Redneck Brain Trust
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To: Olog-hai

” - - - - The no votes all came from Republicans:
Sens. John Boozeman (Ark.),
Dan Coats (Ind.),
John Cornyn (Tex.),
Mike Crapo (Idaho),
Ted Cruz (Tex.),
Deb Fischer (Nebr.),
Chuck Grassley (Iowa),
Dean Heller (Nev.),
Mike Lee (Utah),
Jerry Moran (Kans.),
Rand Paul (Ky.),
James Risch (Idaho),
Pat Roberts (Kans.),
Marco Rubio (Fla.),
Tim Scott (S.C.),
Jeff Sessions (Ala.),
Richard Shelby (Ala.),
John Thune, (S.D.) and
David Vitter (La.). - - - - “

Thank you Senators.


25 posted on 01/31/2013 8:11:23 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: SunkenCiv

Egypt’s army will never go against Morsi.


26 posted on 01/31/2013 8:11:46 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Jeez Louise!! Mike Johanns was wrong AGAIN!!!

This guy hasn’t made a decent vote in the last 2 years. We have GOT to get rid of him!


27 posted on 01/31/2013 8:17:17 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: SunkenCiv

or it could be Turkey again and the military will be the Brotherhood scum.


28 posted on 01/31/2013 8:22:54 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: Olog-hai

American and Israeli soldiers will die at some time in the future from these airplanes.

The politicians won’t give a damn.

And the Obama voters won’t give a damn.


29 posted on 01/31/2013 8:25:04 PM PST by oldbill
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To: Olog-hai

The no votes all came from Republicans: Sens. John Boozeman (Ark.), Dan Coats (Ind.), John Cornyn (Tex.), Mike Crapo (Idaho), Ted Cruz (Tex.), Deb Fischer (Nebr.), Chuck Grassley (Iowa), Dean Heller (Nev.), Mike Lee (Utah), Jerry Moran (Kans.), Rand Paul (Ky.), James Risch (Idaho), Pat Roberts (Kans.), Marco Rubio (Fla.), Tim Scott (S.C.), Jeff Sessions (Ala.), Richard Shelby (Ala.), John Thune, (S.D.) and David Vitter (La.).

I’m keeping score


30 posted on 01/31/2013 8:27:33 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: oldbill

The two latter groups will have to stand before God and answer for all of that. May not be soon enough to suit us, but when the time comes, we’ll see lots of sweat dripping off those multitudes . . .


31 posted on 01/31/2013 8:28:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: kempster

There is no silver. Some don’t recognize Egypt as a threat, imagining taht the Muslim Brotherhood is moderate or some such. Others think that the aid is necessary to keep the Egyptian military on our side.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 8:49:46 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Olog-hai

Which J school teaches the use of double negatives in headlines?


33 posted on 01/31/2013 8:54:39 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Olog-hai

When it comes to Egypt & the Muslim Brotherhood, I’m a moderate.

Nuke the Aswan High Dam! Time for the world’s biggest ever toilet flush!


34 posted on 01/31/2013 8:56:57 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: kempster

So, these are the Jewish Senators that turned their backs on Israel in favor of Egyptian Terrorists.

Carl Levin
Frank Lautenberg
Dianne Feinstein
Barbara Boxer
Ron Wyden
Benjamin Cardin
Bernard Sanders
Al Franken
Richard Blumenthal
Brian Schatz


35 posted on 01/31/2013 9:12:10 PM PST by kempster
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To: Graewoulf

The “yes” GOP votes are?


36 posted on 01/31/2013 9:47:17 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: mickie

37 posted on 01/31/2013 9:54:06 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: Graewoulf

Yep, figured my butt-boy Senators from TN, Lamar! and Corker, would vote with the enemy.


38 posted on 01/31/2013 9:57:46 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: kempster

To #35: out of these Jewish senators, we have:

* one marxist, avowed socialist, but a RED - Sanders
* one liar, Vietnam vet fraud, Blumenthal
* one clown, Franken
* one fool who was used by the KGB in 1975 to welcome a KGB front delegation made up of top Soviet bloc communists and KGB agents of influence - Carl Levin, re World Peace Council tour, including getting the keys to Detroit
* one old fool - Lautenberg
* one stupid fool - Feinstein but slick on gun control
* one troll midget brain, Boxer (and crazy as a loon)
* veteran leftists (with repeats), Wyden, Sanders, Franken, Blumenthal, Levin, Boxer, Sanders
* One fool liberal - Ben Cardin (from my old hood)
* one new leftist fool - Schatz

As a Jew, I cannot be proud of any of them. Cardin should have known better. If his mother is still alive, she’s gonna beat his ass good on this vote. If his father is still alive, he’ll sentence him to life in jail (a former judge). (I think they have passed away but they were proud liberals who supported Israel as an ally and homeland for dispossed Jewsish refugees from around the world).


39 posted on 02/01/2013 12:35:36 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: All

Ol Texas Cornyman running scared, knowin’ you are going to get primaried will change your WHOLE outlook on life and voting.

Good job Cruz....making us proud in Texas....keep hammering these a$$hats.

The rest of you YES voters nothing but “teaser” bulls all running around humping and humping the air with your tool sewed to the side of your belly, just getting tired.
Not the A+ bulls that are doing the real breeding in the pasture.

Bought time to turn the “non-producers” into jerky or hamburger meat.


40 posted on 02/01/2013 2:59:59 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Olog-hai

We should toss in some bombers and nukes to go along with them.


41 posted on 02/01/2013 4:32:04 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Graewoulf

Only 19. Hard to swallow.


42 posted on 02/01/2013 4:41:21 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

* one stupid fool - Feinstein but slick on gun control
* one troll midget brain, Boxer (and crazy as a loon)


.”.. Open up your Golden Gate!” Sigh


43 posted on 02/01/2013 4:46:00 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Olog-hai

Paul bolten yesterday explained the why.

First and most important, the palnes will be in the hands of the military. The military is not the Brotherhood.

Secondly, the planes are a continuance of the Oslo accords.

Bolton is saying what most here can’t see....... the military is not the brotherhood. There is not a monolithic population of Islamists. The current demonstrations clearly show that fact.

The moneyed interests and the military will ultimately previl.


44 posted on 02/01/2013 4:54:05 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Noamie

Follow the money. The US is not buying anymore tanks right now. Without this contract to send tanks to Egypt, the Abrams Tank Plant in Lima (OH) would virtually shut down. As well as all of their suppliers. If the Lima tank plant and all of their suppliers went out of business then the US would loose this industrial base. Maybe forever. It would be very, very expensive to rebuild it. And don’t forget, Egypt will buy tanks even if they have to buy Russian tanks.


45 posted on 02/01/2013 5:32:15 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: zerosix

” - - - The “yes” GOP votes are? - - - “

These are the go-along-to-get-along, scratch-my-back, bipartisan cave-in RINOs.

Round One in the 2016 GOP Presidential Nomination Race has begun.


46 posted on 02/01/2013 6:43:48 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Right Wing Assault

Yup. The always gullible, spineless RINOs are determined to be more like the Democrats so that the Communist Liberal Agenda Media, (CLAM), will like them.


47 posted on 02/01/2013 6:48:02 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Standing Wolf

So the Obama administration is hard at work 1) disarming “free” American citizens of small arms, and 2) sending F-16s and Abrams tanks to Egypt, which is ruled by Muslim terrorists.

Makes perfect sense! /s


48 posted on 02/01/2013 6:58:01 AM PST by Fletcher J
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To: bert

The military is not the Brotherhood
People still believe this lie, don’t they. The military demonstrated that they are strictly on the side of the Brotherhood by helping them to come to power in the first place. A military not in cahoots with the MB (rather than acting as an appendage of the MB as they do today) would not have allowed their top generals to be replaced by Morsi either. Yet people will still believe this lie even with Captain Obvious hitting them with an uppercut.
49 posted on 02/01/2013 7:30:19 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Graewoulf

They really want the leftist media to like them, even though they are that media’s permanent Emmanuel Goldstein?


50 posted on 02/01/2013 7:32:49 AM PST by Olog-hai
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