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Labor Unions Finally Read Obamacare Fine Print, Realize Costs Set To Spike, "Turn Sour" On Obama
ZeroHedge ^ | 01.31.2013 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/01/2013 2:48:30 AM PST by Prov1322

It is a well-known fact that nobody in Congress ever reads, or even skims, any law, and especially not the fine print, it passes until long after it has been enacted into law. It appears the same is just as true for the biggest pillar of support for the Obama administration: America's labor unions, whose liberal vote every election is instrumental to preserving the outflow side of America's welfare state. As it turns out, it was the same labor unions who enthusiastically supported the primary accomplishment of the Obama administration in the past 4 years, Obamacare, only to realize, long after it has become reality that, surprise, their healthcare plan costs are about to go up. And, as the WSJ colorfully summarizes, they are now "turning sour."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; unexpected; unions
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1 posted on 02/01/2013 2:48:41 AM PST by Prov1322
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To: Prov1322

I think this is instructive for conservatives.

Our enemies HATE us, and want to defeat us at any cost. In this case, it was the overhaul of the our entire healthcare system.

This pattern happens time and time again - liberals get what they want and then have regrets. Why. Read the first sentence - they NEVER bothered looking at what they were getting - they only cared about whether they defeated us.


2 posted on 02/01/2013 2:58:26 AM PST by BobL
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To: Prov1322

What do they call comrade president Obama supporters (I mean besides useful idiots)? Suckers!


3 posted on 02/01/2013 3:03:29 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: BobL

Schadenfreude comes to mind, concerning the dismay the union types must be feeling. And it would actually apply, except we are also being hit with the same crazy stick.

Will this be enough to get the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2011” (surely one of the most misnamed pieces of legislation EVER) either repealed or vastly modified? Not likely, as the state-centered mindset cannot ever admit of error on their own part.

Charlie Sheen said it best. “Winning!”


4 posted on 02/01/2013 3:08:07 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: Prov1322

bump


5 posted on 02/01/2013 3:23:03 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our penemy.")
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To: Prov1322

bump


6 posted on 02/01/2013 3:23:23 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Prov1322

Awwwwww. Sorry, I’m fresh out of crying towels. ‘Healthcare? oh yeah, we need that. That is a great idea.’ “OBAMA...OBAMA...OBAMA..”

Stupid sheep. YOU voted for it. Now CHOKE on it.


7 posted on 02/01/2013 3:25:44 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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Well, cry me a river, build me a bridge (at prevailing union wages of course), and JUMP OFF OF IT! Ya FUBARS!


8 posted on 02/01/2013 3:26:55 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Prov1322

For millions of Americans, the take away will no doubt be: “This Obamacare thing would probably be completely free if the Republican hadn’t messed it up! I hate those guys!”


9 posted on 02/01/2013 3:28:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: alloysteel

Yup, this is a golden opportunity for the Republicans to dig in and demand the thing get repealed in it’s entirety.

Nothing less than that. There’s just too much leverage with this to make the Dems pay a very high political price in order to fix the problem that they and they alone are responsible for.


10 posted on 02/01/2013 3:30:17 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Prov1322
“Behind Obama”
11 posted on 02/01/2013 3:33:12 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Prov1322
Here is my prediction: The dems will want to fix all that is being found out...and will then blame the GOP when they balk.

If I were in charge, I would tell the dems: You passed this without GOP support...you can FIX it without GOP support. And then I wouldn't vote for ANYTHING until substantial destruction was achieved (you know the dems won't go for that)...and even then...I would make part of the deal being the dems would have to confess they screwed up...which won't happen.

12 posted on 02/01/2013 3:39:13 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Prov1322

I have yet to meet a liberal that could be that easily disuaded from his ideology. The union “solution” is simply more government subsidies to fix the problem.

Solzhenitsyn wrote about people being sent to the gulags thinking, ‘If only Stalin (or the authorities, or the politburo,or...whatever power that be) was aware that I am not realy guilty, then I’ll be set free from this prison,’ only to remain incarcerated.

When more people experience the consequences of this stupid law, the liberals will continue to deny that the law is the problem. When they experience high costs, long wait times, difficulty in getting appointments, and poor service, they will clamor for more government funding and regulation. When they are denied treatment because it wasn’t approved by the death panel, their families will simply be told by the hospital staff, “sorry, but we did everything we could...”

When you hear the phrase, “sorry, but there is nothing else that can be done,” you will never know if the limitations are based on what the doctors and the facilities are capable of performing, or whether the limitations are based on some kind of quality of life formula created by the death panel.

It will take a lot more to get liberals to realize just how evil their dreams really are.


13 posted on 02/01/2013 3:47:26 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: Prov1322

Although I think this is funny - the unions getting screwed by the very people they supported - in the end, we all get it!

Kinda like the Chicago Teachers Union supporting Little Mischlinge Rahm Emanuel and getting kicked in the face during their protest last year...


14 posted on 02/01/2013 3:47:41 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Prov1322

The comments usually entertaining and worth reading.


15 posted on 02/01/2013 3:48:17 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Prov1322

16 posted on 02/01/2013 3:48:28 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Prov1322

Who couldn’t see this coming from a mile away? I’m sure they get a waiver or exemption.


17 posted on 02/01/2013 3:53:27 AM PST by GP100
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To: paint_your_wagon

Bingo. Liberalism is cult.


18 posted on 02/01/2013 4:01:18 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GP100

There’s going to be a lot of a$$ biting going on in the next year...: )


19 posted on 02/01/2013 4:01:53 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: NELSON111
Or, I am from the government and here to fix this.

Consider, for example, the case of public education in the USA. Jack and Jill cannot read. Jack and Jill cannot add nor subtract. Jack and Jill cannot write nor reason.

This is fine, no matter that generations now of the above youngsters are adults, because the government says ... "and here to help."

Oh, just spend more money. A minor point, I know - as Ben will print as much as you need, and then some more.

20 posted on 02/01/2013 4:10:03 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: Prov1322
Welcome to the breadline, tovarisch...

(Keep your friends close, and the collaborators even closer...)

21 posted on 02/01/2013 4:12:19 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Prov1322

Who knew drones knew how to read.


22 posted on 02/01/2013 4:23:01 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“This Obamacare thing would probably be completely free if the Republican hadn’t messed it up! I hate those guys!”
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On my wifes W2 the employer lists healthcare expenses ,,, over $14,500 ,, and that’s with us being a relatively young family and with OUR portion being almost $10,000 ...

Next year or maybe the year after she’ll be out of work , they won’t be able to operate without laying off huge numbers...


23 posted on 02/01/2013 4:25:15 AM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I'm just amused.)
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To: Prov1322

Here come the executive orders exempting more of obama’s supporters, along with the muzzies.


24 posted on 02/01/2013 4:28:15 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Prov1322
My favorite line in the WSJ article was a statement by a pinhead union official (but I repeat myself) who said (paraphrasing):

I stood right beside 0bama and heard him say if you like your plan you can keep it.

C'mon Mr. Microcephalic, we TOLD you he was a liar; we TOLD you he wants to destroy health insurance and implement single payer; we TOLD you he was gonna bend you over, use you, and throw you away when he was done with you.

But did you listen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo! You called us filthy names, accused us of being fascists. Well, guess whay, skippy? You...


25 posted on 02/01/2013 4:36:59 AM PST by Peet (TurboTax: "So simple even a Secretary of the Treasury can use it!")
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To: Prov1322
Rush predicted something like this would happen. That eventually the scales would fall from their eyes and Obama's supporters would see him for who and what he truly is.

Rush wasn't sure what that event would be but I think it could be a different thing for each individual, er ah, constituency.

26 posted on 02/01/2013 4:44:11 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Prov1322

Would take opie an extra 5 minutes today to write a waiver for this ...


27 posted on 02/01/2013 4:53:10 AM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Prov1322

But! But! But!

If 20 million illegals are added to the healthcare role the price will go down!

The more bums that don’t pay for anything that are added to the roles the cheaper it gets.

Obama told me so.


28 posted on 02/01/2013 5:24:05 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: paint_your_wagon

It’s Bush’s fault.


29 posted on 02/01/2013 5:31:46 AM PST by Machavelli (True God)
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To: dartuser

The Supreme Court upheld the ACA specifically because it was understood to be a tax. Exactly what taxes is the executive branch empowered to waive selectively? Expect any waivers to be challenged in court.


30 posted on 02/01/2013 5:32:05 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: dartuser

He’ll have to look at the melanin makeup of each specific union before he writes the waiver, though.


31 posted on 02/01/2013 5:35:11 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: freeangel

That’s what statists always do - use the power of the state to reward their friends at the expense of their enemies.


32 posted on 02/01/2013 5:36:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: paint_your_wagon
The union “solution” is simply more government subsidies to fix the problem.

Unions wanted single payer. They settled for Obamacare as an intermediate step. This is all predictable. Nobody is supposed to be satisfied with Obamacare, especially not the most staunch liberal constituencies who don't think it went far enough.

33 posted on 02/01/2013 5:37:22 AM PST by randita
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To: NELSON111
Here is my prediction: The dems will want to fix all that is being found out...and will then blame the GOP when they balk.

I completely agree. The Dems will blame every problem on "obstruction in the GOP" to fund short-term and stop-gap measures. The Dems will say, "we knew it wasn't perfect when we passed it, but something had to be done."

This issue should be a winner, served on a silver platter for the GOP. I pray they don't get cornered into somehow voting to fund ANY element of Obamacare. Let the entire program wither on the vine and die a horrible death.

34 posted on 02/01/2013 6:03:48 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Exactly what taxes is the executive branch empowered to waive selectively?

None ... but what does that have to do with anything this administration does?

Expect any waivers to be challenged in court.

By whom?

35 posted on 02/01/2013 8:45:09 AM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: dartuser
By whom?

By a company which applies for a waiver and is denied

36 posted on 02/01/2013 9:53:26 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Jim Robinson
What do they call comrade president Obama supporters (I mean besides useful idiots)?

When it comes to Obamacare sadly one of them is called the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States!

37 posted on 02/01/2013 10:09:31 AM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Prov1322

Man does their formatting of the comments section *suck!*

This is infuriating because this is *exactly* what we’ve been telling these idiots for years, and they wouldn’t believe us. Now, we get sucked down the same carphole they do.


38 posted on 02/01/2013 10:22:12 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: BobL
Liberals get what they want. They NEVER bothered looking at what they were getting, they only cared about whether they defeated us.

That is it in a nutshell my friend, you hit the nail on the head. That one concept needs to be shared with everyone you/we know.

39 posted on 02/02/2013 3:59:50 PM PST by ducttape45
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