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Combat Veteran Arrested In New York: Charged With 5 Felonies For Possession of AR Magazines
SHTFplan.com ^ | January 31, 2013 | Robert Richardson

Posted on 02/01/2013 5:39:12 AM PST by broken_arrow1

In the latest attack on the American people, a decorated War Hero has been arrested and charged with five counts of third degree criminal possession of a weapon, for having empty 30 round AR-15 Magazines in his vehicle.

On Sunday January 6th Staff Sgt. Nathan Haddad, a decorated combat veteran, was driving through Jefferson County New York when he was randomly pulled over for a vehicle check. Haddad, who had five 30 round empty magazines in his possession, was arrested by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department and charged with five felony counts.

According to Haddad’s brother, Michael Haddad, Nathan thought these magazines were legally made before the New York Assault Weapons Ban. When Nathan Haddad was arrested the new ban had not even been fully enacted yet.

This is not a criminal, this is not some thug looking to hurt people; this is a decorated combat veteran who was recently honored by the Philadelphia chapter of Blue Star Mothers and the Union League’s Armed Services Council for helping disabled vets get back on their feet. What’s happening to Army veteran Nate Haddad is an absolute attack on liberty. Here we have a man who honorably served his country, who was trusted with weaponry that far exceeded anything he was carrying, that now finds himself facing the possibility of spending years in prison.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; communism; dsj; fascism; guncontrol; marxism; nathanhaddad; obama; secondamendment
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1 posted on 02/01/2013 5:39:24 AM PST by broken_arrow1
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To: broken_arrow1

:: driving through Jefferson County New York when he was randomly pulled over for a vehicle check ::

I’ll take “Probable Cause” for $500, Alex.


2 posted on 02/01/2013 5:44:04 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: broken_arrow1

These type of arrests are going to the SC eventually.


3 posted on 02/01/2013 5:47:05 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Well, I certainly feel safer already...

Thank you democrats and liberals!


4 posted on 02/01/2013 5:48:20 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: broken_arrow1
The current gun laws are not "common sense" laws.

Cops should know better than to arrest folks for brandishing an unloaded magazine.

5 posted on 02/01/2013 5:53:51 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: broken_arrow1

They have found their example.


6 posted on 02/01/2013 5:55:19 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Were they just laying out on the seat? If so, you would think that with all the recent publicity about that specific thing, he would have them in a case or bag or something.

Anyone from there know what these random vehicle checks include?


7 posted on 02/01/2013 5:56:13 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

These vehicle checks have been going on for decades in New York.

I was stopped on a freeway on-ramp and questioned intensely if I had any weapons in the car (I have Pennsylvania plates and an NRA plate-holder.

Such stops are perfectly legal thanks to MADD who started this with DUI checkpoints.

This is why many FReepers understand that the war on drunk driving has removed more liberties than most people understand.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 5:58:06 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“probable cause” was probably a Gadsden flag bumper sticker, or perhaps “molon labe”.


9 posted on 02/01/2013 5:58:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: broken_arrow1
...he was randomly pulled over for a vehicle check...

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." - U.S. Constitution. Amendment IV

We allowed "Sobriety Checkpoints" for safety's sake. It was just a short step from there to "random vehicle checks". Both were just veiled excuses for unconstitutional fishing expeditions.

10 posted on 02/01/2013 6:01:07 AM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: stuartcr

He set the cops up


11 posted on 02/01/2013 6:04:42 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: broken_arrow1
On Sunday January 6th Staff Sgt. Nathan Haddad, a decorated combat veteran, was driving through Jefferson County New York when he was randomly pulled over for a vehicle check.

When can we start randomly checking LEOs and elected officials?

12 posted on 02/01/2013 6:07:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: broken_arrow1
So it begins...

5.56mm

13 posted on 02/01/2013 6:08:55 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Paladin2

TV reporter can brandish a 30 rd mag on TV in Wash DC, cops in DC gingerly explore with TV station attorney’s to determine if they can arrest reporter. Little people like us are immediately arrested and face charges, while the elites go unmolested and their attorney’s can talk with the approaching investigators. OWS is right, there is a 1 percent in this country that own most of the wealth and treated like royalty.


14 posted on 02/01/2013 6:09:51 AM PST by Fee
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To: Erik Latranyi

Do they go through your vehicle? Did they go through your belongings and open up any bags or containers?


15 posted on 02/01/2013 6:10:14 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: broken_arrow1

And so it begins, the criminalization of honest citizens while felons remain unaffected. Time for the NRA and other gun support groups to step in and prove their worth!


16 posted on 02/01/2013 6:17:16 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: broken_arrow1

Do you mind if we search your vehicle?
Yes sir I do mind, show me your warant.

We need to support this guy and others in commieland.
With our lives if necessary.....


17 posted on 02/01/2013 6:18:13 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: Boomer One
Time for the NRA and other gun support groups to step in and prove their worth spend the money we've been giving them !

Just a little clarification there...

18 posted on 02/01/2013 6:21:30 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: Boomer One

No Boomer, it’s time for all freedom loving true Americans to stand up and take the country back.

It’s agonizing to watch this from the outside. I don’t understand what people are waiting for.


19 posted on 02/01/2013 6:25:30 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: broken_arrow1

Were those mags pre-94 or new ones. I think the possession of pre 94 mags is ok until Apr 15 this year or January of next (cant remember).


20 posted on 02/01/2013 6:27:40 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

The question is whether he said “No” when he was asked if the police could look through his car. If he ignorantly thought the police are always on the side of the good guys, he’s screwed.


21 posted on 02/01/2013 6:30:10 AM PST by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: Bulwyf

There’s no way for us to organize. We are many but no organization; so scattered out across the country. I feel so helpless


22 posted on 02/01/2013 6:37:27 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Who cares? Possess them anyway and force the jerks to stop you.


23 posted on 02/01/2013 6:39:05 AM PST by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Were those mags pre-94 or new ones.

It doesn't matter. The New York law wasn't in effect yet. He wasn't committing a crime at the time of his arrest.

24 posted on 02/01/2013 6:40:01 AM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
These type of arrests are going to the SC eventually.

Yeah, how do you think that is going to go after Zero puts a couple more Marxists on the court?

You won't have the 2nd amendment right to own a squirt gun.

25 posted on 02/01/2013 6:42:53 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: stuartcr
Do they go through your vehicle? Did they go through your belongings and open up any bags or containers?

In 2002, coming back from a fishing trip to Northern Quebec, the Fish and Game Commission gestapo, stopped our vehicle, a 28' walk in box truck that was loaded with our gear {8 guys} and fish on ice in containers.

After they checked all of our containers and found that we only had the legal limit, they made us unload the entire vehicle on the side of the road, and went through every single article, piece of clothing, and left every thing completely torn apart.

We had nothing illegal, but we had 8 fish sandwiches, which they made us eat on the spot, at 10 AM.

We axed them why they were doing this and one smart assed cop, told us, "because we can".

We complained to authorities at the border crossing, to no avail.

After over 25 years of excellent fishing in Canada, we never went back and those arrogant canucks can kiss my Dago ass and I'll continue to spend my money in the USA.

That cost those frenchy arrogant pricks over $75,000 since our change over to US fishing.

When I want really northern fishing, there is no place like Alaska, and you can see Russia from there.

26 posted on 02/01/2013 6:51:22 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: broken_arrow1
In a sane America, operating as founded, this wouldn't have happened in the first place.

In a working America, checks and balances working as intended, this would go to the Supreme Court, where New York's "random vehicle checks" and anti-gun laws would both be struck down as unconstitutional under the fourth and second amendments.

In Obama's America, with Sotomayor, Kagan, the newly turned-to-the-dark-side Roberts, and the other tyranny-enabling justices on the court, we're probably screwed.

27 posted on 02/01/2013 6:52:28 AM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: broken_arrow1

What makes this even more outrageous is that Jefferson County is where Fort Drum is located - home of the US Army Mountain Division.


28 posted on 02/01/2013 6:54:09 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: BubbaBasher

“It doesn’t matter. The New York law wasn’t in effect yet. He wasn’t committing a crime at the time of his arrest.”

It does matter since even before the recent BS 2013 law, it was illegal to have post 94 high cap mags in NY.


29 posted on 02/01/2013 6:55:17 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: broken_arrow1

“randomly pulled over for a vehicle check.”

What means “vehicle check”????

Is this supposed to be some “safety check”?

Or, is this a 4th Amendment violation of search and seizure?


30 posted on 02/01/2013 6:57:22 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Pecos

If you know your rights, there are only two choices that you offer the police -

“am I under arrest, or am I free to go?”

If they ask to search the car, or where you’re going, or where you’ve been, or if you’ve had something to drink -
“am I under arrest, or am I free to go?”


31 posted on 02/01/2013 6:57:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

NY is a great place to be FROM.


32 posted on 02/01/2013 6:58:16 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: broken_arrow1
its about effin time we smarten up and begin using alinsky against them - they live in a legal system - overwhelm it with 50,000 individual lawsuits challenging Constitutionality etc…

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

33 posted on 02/01/2013 6:58:16 AM PST by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Paladin2

Statism has no common sense.


34 posted on 02/01/2013 7:06:12 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: USS Alaska

That’s unfortunate, but not what we’re talking about here.


35 posted on 02/01/2013 7:07:35 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: broken_arrow1

And so it begins.

There is no limit as to how far these fascists plan to push the American people. Is there a limit as to how far the people will allow themselves to be pushed?

Sadly, IMO, as long as they don’t go too fast, the people will allow it to proceed until too late.


36 posted on 02/01/2013 7:09:37 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Paladin2

Welcome to Acirema, where everything is backwards.


37 posted on 02/01/2013 7:09:54 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: coloradan

“NY is a great place to be FROM.”

IH8NY, looking to become a FORMER resident ASAP.


38 posted on 02/01/2013 7:16:06 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: BubbaBasher
It doesn't matter. The New York law wasn't in effect yet. He wasn't committing a crime at the time of his arrest.

The law is um-Constitutional - he wouldn't be breaking any laws even if he was caught after the edict had been passed. Will be interesting to see some of the unlawful arrests as they go up the Courts.

39 posted on 02/01/2013 7:20:48 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: NTHockey

I live here. Trust me - you have not a clue how upset many of us are - its like a communist state


40 posted on 02/01/2013 7:22:04 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: broken_arrow1

The opening chapter of Joseph P. Martino’s recent masterpiece, Resistance to Tyranny, makes the clearest case I’ve seen yet as to where this sort of stuff comes from and where it almost inevitably leads. Lucid, highly documented info throughout the book, but the first chapter is the best wake-up call and best education I’ve seen yet about these sorts of events and what they portend.

Get a copy while you can.


41 posted on 02/01/2013 7:23:29 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Obviously the NY LEO stopped a dangerous criminal from a mass shooting incident. Unfortunately, he didn’t have a gun with him, so his plan must have been to scare the little ones with the evil springs, sheet metal and followers. Obviously dangerous in their own right....Commie Cuomo must be ecstatic to put this patriot behind bars as an example.

Confiscation is only a heart beat away for Yankee commies.


42 posted on 02/01/2013 7:26:54 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

Here is the link to donate. Even $5 would help:

http://www.gofundme.com/1tkukc#description


43 posted on 02/01/2013 7:32:06 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: MrB
Or an NRA, Glock or US Mililtary decal. I have a "Terrorist Hunting Permit" decal on my Jeep's back bay window. LEOs here love it, and I carry extras for them.


44 posted on 02/01/2013 7:32:06 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment is the First Human Right.)
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To: broken_arrow1

NY’s real life version of Les Miserables with Coumo as Javert.


45 posted on 02/01/2013 7:36:16 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Think about the implications. How many NYers are now felons in their own homes overnight?


46 posted on 02/01/2013 7:37:53 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: USS Alaska

“After over 25 years of excellent fishing in Canada, we never went back and those arrogant canucks can kiss my Dago ass and I’ll continue to spend my money in the USA.”

I spent years living in Canada, mostly the NW, and I just want to say how sorry I am that all of you went through that experience. I go back to Canada often, but it feels more and more alien to me. It’s a shame because the country is beautiful and the people were always friendly and helpful. But, as my Canadian brother says, he doesn’t know anyone he liked who became a law enforcement officer. Only the pricks.


47 posted on 02/01/2013 7:45:32 AM PST by binreadin
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Wait - they pulled him over for a “random vehicle check”?

Wow. That’s a Police state. I mean, really - it’s right there in front of us.

I hope they didn’t ask if he was illegal or anything.....


48 posted on 02/01/2013 7:55:45 AM PST by Noamie
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To: Noamie

Unfortunately, law-abiding citizens need to carry the following display page in their vehicles:

“I repsectfully exercise my 4th and 5th Amendment rights and hereby inform you that:

(1) I will not answer any questions that may be introduced in evidence against me in a court of law, regardless of the accusation. and;
(2) I do not agree or consent to any search of my vehicle and personal property without a properly executed warrant of search.
(3) I am willing to stay here and await the aforementioned warrant until such time that I am free to leave. Be aware that I will continue to ask you if I am free to leave and, if you answer in the negative I expect a proper and Constitutional explanation as to why I am being detained.
(4) Be aware that I have already contacted my legal representative who may show up at this location at any moment.


49 posted on 02/01/2013 8:11:33 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Noamie

That’s the one question they’ll never ask...


50 posted on 02/01/2013 8:13:10 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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