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Glock, Paper, Scissors: Armed Guard Stops Shooter
Investor's Business Daily ^ | February 1, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 02/01/2013 4:12:23 PM PST by raptor22

Guns: While DHS seeks 7,000 semiautomatic guns with 30-round clips for self-defense, it makes a video saying you should use scissors to overpower armed predators. Luckily, a school guard in Atlanta thought differently.

Vice President Joe Biden criticized, on Jan. 23 during a Google+ Hangout, the suggestion by NRA chief Wayne LaPierre to put armed guards in every school in the nation.

"We are not calling for armed guards in schools . .. we think that would be a terrible mistake," the vice president said during the PBS "Fireside Hangout."

On Thursday afternoon, a student opened fire at Price Middle School in Atlanta, wounding a 14-year-old in the neck before an armed officer working at the school was able to get the gun away possibly averting yet another mass shooting. Police say the shooter had a grudge against the victim, but the armed guard's intervention made sure the incident went no further.

Some would argue an unarmed guard or teacher could have done the same, or they might have been the shooter's next victim. The incident should raise in the minds of gun-control advocates how things might have been different if an armed guard had been patrolling Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

Maybe Wayne LaPierre wasn't crazy after all. Certainly his idea is more practical and less goofy than the suggestion in a video produced by the Department of Homeland Security that was posted on the agency's website just a month after the massacre at Sandy Hook.

The video, titled "Options for Consideration," advises that people who get caught in an "active shooter" situation should run away, hide under a desk or take cover out of the line of fire. But the video also touts an option for self-defense — the right to bear scissors

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; ae15; banglist; dhs; glock; guncontrol; ibd; ibdguns; newtown; nra; sanduhook; sandyhook; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/01/2013 4:12:28 PM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22
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2 posted on 02/01/2013 4:16:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: raptor22

Use a purse thilly and throw gumdrps at them.


3 posted on 02/01/2013 4:16:37 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: cripplecreek
Paper beats Barack.


4 posted on 02/01/2013 4:22:19 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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5 posted on 02/01/2013 4:27:56 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: C210N

BTW if anyone is interested there’s an upcoming gun buying opportunity in Lansing MI. on the 9th.

“Guns for Groceries will provide a $50 Meijer gift card for any operable long gun, a $100 gift card for each operable handgun, and a $150 gift card for each operable military-style assault weapon turned in at the collection point.”

http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/City-Announces-Next-Guns-for-Groceries-Program-189369471.html


6 posted on 02/01/2013 4:39:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

The latest cutting edge technology.


7 posted on 02/01/2013 4:44:19 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

For the sharpshooter in your family.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 4:48:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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9 posted on 02/01/2013 5:02:02 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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10 posted on 02/01/2013 5:43:44 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: cripplecreek

Just don’t run in the hallway with these.


11 posted on 02/01/2013 5:45:17 PM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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Notes to rabbit people hoplophobes [people with an irrational aversion to weapons]:

1. Gun Free School Zones will not deter killers, but will attract them because they know everyone is disarmed.
2. In cases of mass shootings in schools, where an armed citizen was there, the body count averaged
3. Where people had to call 911 and wait for the cops to show up, the body count averaged 14.
4. In cases of mass shootings in schools, where an armed citizen was there, the deranged shooter either surrendered without a fight or killed himself.
5. Denial isn’t a river in Egypt. The best union teacher or staff is NOT bulletproof against a deranged shooter bent on murder. How much of a chance for survival will your union card buy you as you’re cowering under a desk with a pair of scissors?
6. If teachers or staff will not defend their students against predatory killers, then hire someone who will or bring in trained volunteers with CCW as a line of defense,
7. Post your school building as a ‘hardened target’; that is, brag there are ARMED guards in place to take out gun toting crazies.

12 posted on 02/01/2013 5:48:10 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: raptor22
...Good article Raptor
13 posted on 02/01/2013 6:00:28 PM PST by virgil283 ( ... "If we give the them. enough rope they will surely hang us .. ”-- taki ....)
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To: raptor22
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14 posted on 02/01/2013 8:00:20 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: raptor22

You’re supposed to quickly cut out a real mean paper figure with the scissors and hold it up to the interloper and he’s supposed to see it and be scared and run away.

It works in cartoons.


15 posted on 02/01/2013 8:04:46 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: raptor22

I don’t mind if DHS wants 7,000 semiautomatic guns with 30-round clips for self-defense.

Me, Myself? I’d rather have 30 round magazines.

Clips are a bitch to load and you won’t be able to push more than about 10 rounds into a magazine bare handed anyway and it takes to long.


16 posted on 02/01/2013 8:10:06 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: cripplecreek

Nobody would “sell” a firearm today for a $50 or $100 gift card. That means lots of stolen guns will be turned in.


17 posted on 02/01/2013 10:28:15 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: cripplecreek

Is that a 30 round snip clip (magazine)? ;-)


18 posted on 02/02/2013 6:45:53 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: raptor22; All

“The video, titled “Options for Consideration,” advises that people who get caught in an “active shooter” situation should run away, hide under a desk or take cover out of the line of fire...”

Don’t forget the tried and true method of balling up in a fetal position...

Adding “sucking your thumb” is an advanced skill, best taught by liberal/progressives...


19 posted on 02/02/2013 6:56:14 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Vendome; All

Working their own vernacular against them, I therefore do not own any semi-automatic or “assault rifles” (spit)...

I own “Personal Defense Rifles”...

To which you will never know about, nor will they be relinquished whilts I still have ammo to put through them...


20 posted on 02/02/2013 7:00:24 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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Metal detectors at Atlanta middle school were not working.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/police-atlanta-school-shooting-gang-related/nWC9W/


21 posted on 02/02/2013 7:07:24 AM PST by Atlantan
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To: MasterGunner01

Post your school building as a ‘hardened target’; that is, brag there are ARMED guards in place to take out gun toting crazies.
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Of course, if you put that sign at the town limits you may just retard crime enough to make a difference.
You could call it ‘Shooters Roulette’ some are armed, some may be armed, “Come on in and find out”.

Make them ‘think’ if nothing else.


22 posted on 02/02/2013 7:28:27 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: stevie_d_64

situation should run away, hide under a desk or take cover out of the line of fire...”

Don’t forget the tried and true method of balling up in a fetal position...
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Tried and true tactics.

I am ‘old enough’ to get away with either wimpering/simpering in the back ground, ‘fake’ a heart attack, or generally ‘lose it’, giving me a CHANCE to get to my ‘self defense system’ and assess the situation while virtually going unobserved other than a few ‘shut that old fool up’ remarks - by then I am ‘ready to go’.


23 posted on 02/02/2013 7:34:43 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: xrmusn
When they ask why CCW for school teachers, staff, and administrators, here is why:

1. Gun Free School Zones are magnets for deranged killers because they know their victims cannot defend themselves.
2. Where armed citizens have opposed a school shooter, 2 people on average were killed; where there were no armed people and folks had to wait for the cops after calling 911, the average was 14 killed. Moral: concealed carry of arms saves lives.
3. When a deranged school shooter was confronted with deadly force wielded by an armed citizen, the shooter either surrendered or shot himself.

This then begs the question of why the mass killer either surrenders or kills himself.

The majority of these mass killers are video game addicts. For them, the killings they are doing is the acting out (for real) of a sick video game. The presence of someone with the capability to apply deadly force (also for real) shocks the shooter into reality and some meekly surrender.

The other option for the acting out “gamer” shooter is to reset the game. In the gaming scenario, the avatar of a player who’s cornered and without a way to escape can reset the game by committing suicide. When the shooter in the real world kills himself, he’s continuing the delusion learned in the game: that is, he’s forcing a “reset” of a no win situation. Either way, an armed citizen stops mass murder with the presence of a concealed firearm before the cops can react to the 911 call.

24 posted on 02/02/2013 7:54:25 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: stevie_d_64

“Working their own vernacular against them, I therefore do not own any semi-automatic or “assault rifles” (spit)...”

Except the “personal defense weapons” they are seeking to buy are select fire” i.e. full auto switchable to semi auto.

The M-4 Carbine, the current standard for the US military, is not set up for sustained full auto fire. My understanding is 3 shot bursts. From this it appears Homeland Security is preparing not just to spray a lot of bullets at either smugglers on the high seas or ??? on US soil, but to in a rather odd way ... out gun the army. Swell.


25 posted on 02/02/2013 9:44:43 AM PST by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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To: xrmusn

“...ready to go...”

Hehehe, I bet that might mean you’ve cleared leather and are prepared to get to work???

I like it...;-)


26 posted on 02/02/2013 1:53:00 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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