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With Brown out, GOP mulls Romney energy
Boston Herald ^ | February 2, 2013 | Joe Battenfeld, Hillary Chabot

Posted on 02/02/2013 4:59:15 AM PST by Diogenesis

With Brown out, GOP mulls Romney energy
(He's back; Mr. RomneyCARE and family for MA Senate))

"Massachusetts Republicans are desperately scrambling to find
a strong Senate candidate to replace Scott Brown,
with some even trying to persuade Mitt Romney’s wife or son
to jump into the race to avert another electoral disaster.

... Other GOP leaders also raised the prospect of Mitt’s eldest son, Tagg,
launching a surprise Senate campaign.
Tagg Romney was a close campaign adviser
and surrogate for his father and is a successful businessman living in Belmont."


(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ma2013; rinoromneyagain; rinosinheat; romney; romneycare4ever
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The GOPe is convinced conservatives are fools.

As if Romney's and Rove's attacks in 2008 against Gov Palin,
and their meek, vapid (except against conservatives)
campaign in 2012, were not enough.:



Mr. RomneyCARE to pet felon:
"Those stupid conservatives will NEVER have a chance. Ever."

1 posted on 02/02/2013 4:59:24 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

So the GOP Liberals are looking for a Romney candidate that will “not really be campaigning” for the open Senate seat?

Why even worry about Mass.. A GOP Liberal is still a liberal


2 posted on 02/02/2013 5:05:42 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Every state, and American, matters.

Deep beneath the Commonwealth, the People are getting angry.

There is a thick vein of conservatism that needs to be scratched.
It happened before; it WILL happen again


3 posted on 02/02/2013 5:10:36 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Diogenesis

All “moderates” do is provide cover as the democrats continue their goose stepping march to full on fascism. The GOP has been moderated into a coma.


4 posted on 02/02/2013 5:11:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Diogenesis
trying to persuade Mitt Romney’s wife or son to jump into the race to avert ensure another electoral disaster.

(fixed)

5 posted on 02/02/2013 5:11:45 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Diogenesis

anddddd...... Romeny returns to his normal RINO self as he got tired of being “severely conservative”


6 posted on 02/02/2013 5:16:01 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: palmer
Exactly.

Sen. John Kerry (D) to Don Imus on RomneyCARE:
"I like this health care bill".

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) on RomneyCARE:
"To come up with a bipartisan plan in this polarized environment is commendable."

"So you say RomneyCARE, and we say ObamaCARE.
What difference does it make?"



7 posted on 02/02/2013 5:17:33 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Diogenesis

Charisma....... Reagan was elected and acceptable because of his likeability and believability. The lesson of 2012 is that being conservative is not only not enough, it is anathema.

There must a charismatic personality with the voice and message to charm. Wonkish recital of conservative virtues will not prevail in a national election.

If such a person threatens, he is destroyed by the press. Herman Cain is the archetype of that person.


8 posted on 02/02/2013 5:20:18 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Diogenesis

With those glasses, Hillary looks like one of the Hanson brothers from the movie “Slap Shot.”


9 posted on 02/02/2013 5:31:32 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: cripplecreek
Suppose you're right, how does this explain the reason Geraldo is saying he's running as a Republican because they've gone too far to the right?

I've been giving this serious thought as I read all these posts on FR and I see that I am out of step with most Freepers as far as strategy is concerned.

I believe we all desire the same things ultimately and the difference is in strategy how to get there.

Then I think can how can I be this far out of synch on strategy with most Freepers. Now, every Freeper must agree that it will take 51 Republican senators to take control of the US Senate from the Democrats. Now, this is the question I have for Freepers; do you think it more noble to allow Democrats to have perpetual control of the Senate, and even increase their numbers, than to elect less than perfect Republicans?

What is your strategy for taking control of the Senate?

10 posted on 02/02/2013 5:32:42 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: palmer

I’ll ask you, too, is it more noble to allow Dems to control the US Senate than to accept less than perfect Republicans? In order to wrest control of the US Senate, we must have 51 Republicans.


11 posted on 02/02/2013 5:35:06 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Blue Highway
The question is; Would you rather have some less than acceptable Republicans in the US Senate or have the Dims retain their control, or even increase it?

Do you think a majority is important?

12 posted on 02/02/2013 5:37:01 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Diogenesis

Just yesterday there was a thread about Alabama being the “most conservative state” in the USA.
Now, that scares me. The most conservative state is 50.6% conservative, not even a full notch over one-half. In every other state, self-identifying conservatives are LESS than half the populace.
For every one American getting angry, there are some number of illegals coming in, getting ID, getting stuff, and voting Democrat. Pretty soon they won’t need dead people to win elections for them.
I see no hope. Conservatives are too in love with the law. They are more law-abiding than liberty-loving and certainly more law-abiding than freedom-fighting.
Some few, damn few, exceptions. The rest, they can think what they like and grumble at their keyboards, but they obediently pay their taxes to this evil government, and that is all, ALL that keeps it alive.


13 posted on 02/02/2013 5:38:56 AM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Suppose you're right, how does this explain the reason Geraldo is saying he's running as a Republican because they've gone too far to the right?

The only reason I'm even bothering to acknowledge you is to suggest that people take a look at your moderate hardline posting history.

The simple fact is that moderates are even lower than democrats because they don't have the courage to take the fight to where its hard. Instead they spend their days attacking conservatives while giving their friends on the left cover to move even further to the left.

Moderates are nothing but lying manipulative bottom feeding scum who can all kiss my ass.
14 posted on 02/02/2013 5:39:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Diogenesis
Do you care if Republicans ever take control of the US Senate from the Democrats? If so, what current Republicans already in the US Seante do we keep, and how do we find enough more to get us to the magical number of 51?

Do you have a viable strategy to get to fifty one?

15 posted on 02/02/2013 5:39:32 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: bert
If such a person threatens, he is destroyed by the press. Herman Cain is the archetype of that person.If they aren't destroyed by the press, they're destroyed by fellow Republicans because NO ONE is good enough.
16 posted on 02/02/2013 5:41:45 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: bert
If such a person threatens, he is destroyed by the press. Herman Cain is the archetype of that person.

If they aren't destroyed by the press, they're destroyed by fellow Republicans because NO ONE is good enough.

Sorry.

17 posted on 02/02/2013 5:42:56 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
accept less than perfect Republicans

Again with this crap? The letter behind the name no longer means ANYTHING. A lefty is a lefty.

18 posted on 02/02/2013 5:45:08 AM PST by j_tull (The smart money these days is in brass and lead.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Horsecrap. You've been pushing the liberal wing of the GOP-E for ages. Folks aren't buying what you are selling.

/johnny

19 posted on 02/02/2013 5:46:03 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek
First, I assure you, I am no moderate but I am asking YOU if you have a strategy to take control of the US Senate or is it more noble to allow Democrats to have perpetual control than to accept less than perfect Republicans?

We now have 45 US senators. How many of the current ones would you keep? How are you going to get to the magical number of fifty one?

20 posted on 02/02/2013 5:46:49 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

So your opinion (and flawed advice) is:

“Go with Benedict Arnold because a General is needed?”

Sorry, that is not going to work.


21 posted on 02/02/2013 5:47:30 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Yep


22 posted on 02/02/2013 5:47:40 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: cripplecreek
That poster is a well known liberal suckup that claims to be GOP. It bleats its liberal mantra every chance it gets.

/johnny

23 posted on 02/02/2013 5:47:53 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: j_tull

How do we get to fifty one?


24 posted on 02/02/2013 5:48:06 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
is it more noble to allow Dems to control the US Senate than to accept less than perfect Republicans?

A false choice IMO. Mass voters have voted for libertarians many times and that would be a whole lot better than a "big government conservative" like Romney. The main solution to federal overreach is to shrink the federal government. For example the 1/2 billion to Planned Parenthood every year would go away not because some conservatives take on PP, but because it's out of scope and we can't afford it.

But strong conservative views would help a lot PP spent millions to defeat Romney (e.g. running ads here in Va). Romney did not fight against them, but "clarified" his views about them instead. That didn't inspire Virginia conservatives to say the least.

25 posted on 02/02/2013 5:49:04 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Diogenesis
Deep beneath the Commonwealth, the People are getting angry. There is a thick vein of conservatism that needs to be scratched. It happened before; it WILL happen again

Preach it my brotha! You've got to rise uppah and testify!

We are here. We are p!$$3d. We will be heard. Read my tagline.

26 posted on 02/02/2013 5:49:17 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: Diogenesis

NO, I’m asking you for your opinion as to how do we get to fifty one acceptable Republican senators?


27 posted on 02/02/2013 5:49:21 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

It was NOT just the Press that attacked Gov. Palin
on the eve of Election 2008, it was TEAM ROMNEY.

Team Romney are PROVEN backstabbers.


28 posted on 02/02/2013 5:49:33 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

How did the presidential race work out for you, Granny? The only “destruction” that was wreaked was by YOUR BOY ROMNEY against actual conservatives.


29 posted on 02/02/2013 5:50:56 AM PST by j_tull (The smart money these days is in brass and lead.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Easy. NO MORE RINOs. NEVER. EVER.

They have given NOTHING but betrayal and Obama
and ObamaCARE. So get some coffee, Tagg.


30 posted on 02/02/2013 5:51:07 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Diogenesis

These people refuse to go away. Note to Romneys: “YOU LOST. WE DON’T NEED NO STINKING LOSERS.”


31 posted on 02/02/2013 5:51:31 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: palmer
I agree with that but it ignores the questions of how do we get to fifty one senators because it seems to me that unless we get there, government is going to continue to grow and grow and grow because our side doesn't have the will to try to stop Democrats.

This is going to take strategy and I see a lack of a sane strategy on FR.

32 posted on 02/02/2013 5:52:10 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

33 posted on 02/02/2013 5:52:36 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney's former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.

"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"


Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."

34 posted on 02/02/2013 5:53:38 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
How do we get to fifty one?

It no longer matters. Perhaps you missed my declaration that the letter behind the name no longer makes a difference.

35 posted on 02/02/2013 5:54:33 AM PST by j_tull (The smart money these days is in brass and lead.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

There are idolators on FR who tear down every other candidate except their own. You should stop listening to them. There were plenty of adequately conservative candidates like Perry, Gingrich, Cain, etc. Each had various problems, but the key is that people who harped on those problems were doing that because they wanted a different candidate to the point of irrationality. Those people can simply be ignored. Argue for a conservative candidate and why he or she is conservative and leave it at that.


36 posted on 02/02/2013 5:57:02 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I agree that sometimes conservatives expect a candidate to be with them on every detail, not only of principle but of strategy, and are unwilling to examine the issues in depth and seriously discuss them. There’s way too much slogneering in the GOP right.

However, when we have elected GOPers who are nothing but Dems in disguise, even if we technically have a majority, this hasn’t helped us because the very liberal GOPers often vote with the Dems. Electing “mavericks,” that is, GOPers in very light GOP disguise who then thrill the Dems by siding with them or attacking conservatives, has never worked and never helped us.

I think we need to have candidates who at least are conservative in principle, and I mean on social issues as well, if we’re going to offer an option and even get them elected in the first place.

Increasingly, people have wondered why they should vote for a fake Dem (a RINO candidate) when they could vote for the real thing, a registered Dem, and this has cost us many elections.

So while it’s true that sometimes people hold up themselves and their every opinion and slogan as the standard of purity, to the point that they won’t even discuss the positions of the candidates on issues unless it is 100% their own, there has to be a limit beyond which one is not a Republican and should consider openly running as a Dem.

I think Romney has passed that limit, and that’s one of the reasons people didn’t vote for him last time around.


37 posted on 02/02/2013 5:57:45 AM PST by livius
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To: GreenHornet
With those glasses, Hillary looks like one of the Hanson brothers from the movie “Slap Shot.”

If the movie "Misery" is ever re-made, she could play the part...you dirty bird

38 posted on 02/02/2013 5:58:22 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I have NEVER pushed the left wing at all. Trust me, you are not more conservative than I but what I see is a death wish here on FR. Now, I am asking YOU how you plan to get to fifty one Republican senators to take control away from Dims. Are you happy to allow Dims to have perpetual control until we can find fifty one Republicans close enough to perfection to be acceptable.

I am telling YOU and other Freepers with this suicidal death wish that because you refuse to recognize that this is not a perfect world, we are going to have to accept some we wish we did not have to accept, if we are ever going to gain any more political power.

We MUST use RINOS--WE MUST. It's either that or stand back and surrender to RATS. That is the reality.

39 posted on 02/02/2013 5:58:22 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I’m asking you for your opinion as to how do we get to fifty one acceptable Republican senators?

I'm glad you are asking questions because we can point out that you are asking the wrong question. The right question is: how can we get the largest number of conservative Senators?

40 posted on 02/02/2013 5:59:30 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I am going to call you a LIAR and I am also going to call you stupid because you have NO strategy to get where you want to go and you, and others like you, here on FR don’t even stop to THINK about a strategy to win. You love losing and pointing fingers while you yourself do nothing to improve anything.


41 posted on 02/02/2013 6:01:16 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
No one is buying the liberal crap you are trying to peddle.

Personally, I want to see the Republican party completely crushed and destroyed and consigned to the dustbin of history.

I am not a Republican. I am a conservative.

/johnny

42 posted on 02/02/2013 6:01:35 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If a moderate tells me the sky is blue, I’m gonna check it out for myself just to confirm it because they lie that much.


43 posted on 02/02/2013 6:01:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Sorry, Tagg. But you, like Rove and the GOPe have been exposed.

You love losers, betrayers, and liars.

You support Obama, the DNC, and RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE.

Are you sure that you would not be happier at DU?


44 posted on 02/02/2013 6:02:56 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Diogenesis

Fine, what is your strategy to get to fifty one US senators?


45 posted on 02/02/2013 6:03:05 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: j_tull

Well, that does nothing to address the current issue of how do we get to fifty one senators?


46 posted on 02/02/2013 6:03:59 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
We MUST use RINOS--WE MUST

Those aren't the words of a conservative. Those are the words of a liberal trying to push acceptance of liberal GOP-E candidates.

/johnny

47 posted on 02/02/2013 6:04:29 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The same problem even going back as far as the Clinton era, is we haven’t put the conservative candidates front and center, but fall prey to the MSM logic that we need a centrist or moderate in the Republican party to succeed at best or compete at worst. This is the cancer that is destroying our chances to regain any kind of majority going forward.


48 posted on 02/02/2013 6:05:24 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I am going to call you a LIAR and I am also going to call you stupid because you have NO strategy to get where you want to go and you

Do you really think that name-calling is a good way to promote your own strategy?

49 posted on 02/02/2013 6:05:44 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Diogenesis
No more RINOS, ever, is your strategy to get to fifty one US senators? How is that going to work.

I'll ask you, of the 45 Republican senators we have now, WHO would you keep?

Do you care about getting a majority or are you happy with keeping RATS in control?

50 posted on 02/02/2013 6:06:01 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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