The NRA is Winning the Battle

Town Hall ^ | Feb 2, 2013 | Heather Ginsberg

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In the wake of the Sandy Hook school shooting we all knew that an impending gun debate would be a hard fought battle. Just after this week’s hearing on Capitol Hill, a new Forbes study finds that the NRA is winning the influence battle over gun control. In the new study performed by Forbes Insights, an independent and unbiased organization, they found that the “NRA and the pro-gun rights voices are winning the influence battle and will continue to be strong and more influential if the pro gun control voice remains fragmented”.

The data was compiled from the week before the school shooting and follows the trends over the following 5 weeks. There are some important pieces of information gathered from this study that are important to note:

[ozzymandus]

The usual NRA bashers here on FR have been noticably quiet lately.

[Travis McGee]

What those tolerant liberals think of us:

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[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Always keep in mind that you can’t just play defense and win. Whenever you are attacked by someone trying to take away your rights, you don’t just stop them, you extend your rights further.

They like to proclaim that they win by taking “three steps forward, and one step back”. But the counter to this is when they try to take that first step, push them back two steps or more.

[Popman]

Just signed for a five year NRA membership...

[frankenMonkey]

Then maybe it's time to start to focus on winning the war. Any law or regulation that infringes upon Second Amendment is, by its very nature, unconstitutional.

[DungeonMaster]

I just signed up and I'm polling my place of work. I suspect 10 percent of them are in the NRA which is a great number given only 5 million in the country are in it. So far I'm up to 8 of 100 at work and I've only asked about 20 people.

I think I'll further support the NRA by buying and reselling at a slight loss some nifty NRA merch.

[OneWingedShark]

The usual NRA bashers here on FR have been noticably quiet lately.

Oh there's plenty to bash the NRA on:

1. their requests for narrow[er] rulings on several important gun cases (the case-names slip my mind),
2. their refusal to address (or help with) state-level arms issues,
   • NM's Constitution, for example, explicitly says "No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense[...]", yet at least some city and state courts prohibit weapons (this includes jurors, who are the ones deciding guilt and innocence) -- same with SD which declares all state buildings to be "courthouses" for the purposes of gun-restricting law despite that State's Constitution's declaration that "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state shall not be denied."
   • The above* means that we should not count on their help with, say, New York -- and should consider well the possibility that any help they render is "for display purposes only."
3. their incessant solicitation of monies. (Have you upgraded your membership to an ultimate supreme mega life foundation endowment membership yet?)

   * In the Parable of the Talents Jesus told, the master says "Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a few things, I will set you over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord." to the profitable servants; but to the unprofitable he says: "You wicked and slothful servant. [...] Throw out the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

   Thus the question remains: is the NRA profitable to the general population under it's publicized goal of defending the right to bear arms (in particular firearms)?

[Sans-Culotte]

The usual NRA bashers here on FR have been noticably quiet lately.

I'd let my membership lapse because they support too many dems (who always betray the 2nd amendment when push comes to shove), but I renewed a couple of weeks ago for 2 years.

[xkaydet65]

In the Senate hearings the other day Durbin ridiculed the idea that the right to bear arms was, in this day and age, meaningful. That there was he implied no threat to the People’s liberties from the US govt. Well 44 years ago liberals felt quite differently. In a reworking of Sinclair’s It Can Happen Here ABC/TV produced a multi part TV movie of the week called Shadow on the Land. A fascist US govt placed in power because of riots and violence nationwide has dissolved the govt and replaced it with a Leader whose control is a DHS type organization. There is a resistance, armed with M1s, carbines, M14s, deer rifles,shotguns explosives and Molotov cocktails. The story involves one event in the struggle and there is no conclusion. (They were hoping to do a series). But not only did the producers rework Sinclair, a noted 30s Socialist,the movie itself was written by Nedrick Young, a blacklisted actor in the 50s.The movie was well received by the media of the day,even with the heroes amply supplied with illegal miliyary style weapons. In contrast to the treatment of Milius’s Red Dawn 16 years later. Shadow was reworked in 1983 with a sci fi twist in “V”. I recommend viewing this datedd but revealing movie as well as viewing a more dated but equally revealing flick from 1933 Walter Huston’s Gabriel Over the White House.

[TigersEye]

The Dem/libs have been engaging in a steady push to infringe on our right to keep and bear arms for decades. And this is how it has been working out for them in the last two decades...

• The percentage of Americans who own guns has increased.
• The percentage of Americans who believe we have a right to own guns has increased.
• The number of guns owned per gun owner has increased.
• The amount of ammunition possessed per gun owner has increased.
• Concealed carry laws have spread from state to state like wildfire.
• Castle Doctrine laws have been passed in numerous states that didn't have them.
• Stand Your Ground laws have been passed in more states than had them before.
• Gun rights lobbying groups have become a cottage industry unto themselves sprouting up like mushrooms after a rainstorm.
• In the worst economy since the Great Depression the firearms industry can't keep up with orders or expand fast enough.

And in the last two months...

• Americans Buy Enough Guns in Last Two Months to Outfit the Entire Chinese and Indian Armies
• NRA membership has increased by 250,000.

If the lefties keep pushing gun control in another two decades one out of two Americans may be gun owners instead of one out of three.

MOLON LAVE! WE'LL BUY MORE. ;-)

[familyop]

"from this study that are important to note:

1. The Republican politicians are not part of this debate. Instead, many solely have their eyes on the NRA and its president, Wayne LaPierre. Of the top 25 stakeholders in the gun control debate, only one is a Republican politician, Chris Christie."

Interesting.

[ozzymandus]

Great, keep bashing the NRA. Brilliant. This is the perfect time for nitpicking.

[Arm_Bears]

Anyone who expects leadership from the Republican enuchs in DC is kidding themself.