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Ft. Irwin Gen. says women welcome in combat
desertdispatch.com ^ | February 01, 2013 | BROOKE SELF

Posted on 02/02/2013 1:24:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

BARSTOW • Women will officially be allowed in combat for the first time in U.S. history, the Secretary of Defense announced last week, and Fort Irwin’s commanding general says he welcomes the change.

“Since the onset of the conflict (in Afghanistan), I’ve seen men and women do exciting things on the battlefield and that is truly amazing,” Brig. Gen. Terry Ferrell said. “The enemy we face doesn’t distinguish between men and women.”

Ferrell said the National Training Center has placed women in different Military Occupation Specialties (MOS) since May 2012.

“From a normal progression, it’s not surprising,” he said. “Our military is ever evolving and we recognize that. This is another opportunity to go forward and give women the same opportunities.”

U.S. Army Lt. Col. Michaele McCulley, the officer in charge of the Goldminer Team at Fort Irwin and the second woman to hold the title, said the change is a step forward and means women serving in logistics can now be assigned to combined arms units.

“For me personally as a Lt. Col. it makes no direct impact, but for a younger officer or soldier it could because now there are other opportunities,” McCulley said.

McCulley said allowing women in combat has been a topic of discussion throughout her 21 years of service. As the commander of the Regimental Support Squadron, 2nd Cavalry Regiment — a battalion-size unit with over 700 assigned soldiers in Afghanistan — she said her logistics team delivered supplies and drove on the same roads as infantry soldiers assigned to combat engagement.

“Our Army has some flexibility now in the logistics field,” she said.

Sgt. Natasha Mackenzie, a combat photographer from the Operations Group at Fort Irwin, deployed to Afghanistan in 2011. She said her tour ended early after she was knocked out by a boulder in an RPG blast.

“I think it’s good that things are changing,” she said. “I believe it’s the future. We’re moving on.”

Howard "Buck" McKeon, Chairman of the House Armed Services committee praised the announcement.

“After a decade of critical military service in hostile environments, women have demonstrated a wide range of capabilities in combat operations, and we welcome this review,” McKeon said.

The announcement is the beginning of the process before full implementation will take place, according to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta. Congress will have 30 days to weigh in on the decision and the military services will have until May 15 to report implementation plans, which will be open for exemptions until 2016.

“The fact is, they (women) have become an integral part of our ability to perform our mission, and for more than a decade of war they have demonstrated courage and skill and patriotism," Panetta said during the announcement last week.

According to CNN, women made up 67 of the nearly 3,500 Americans lost in hostile fire in Iraq and 33 of the 1,700-plus killed in combat in Afghanistan. In addition, more than 600 women in Iraq and 300 more in Afghanistan were wounded.

As of September, 418 of the Army's 438 MOS were open to women of all ranks, according to a U.S. Army report.

“We’ve been running a series of tests already and there will be a very detailed assessment as the process evolves,” Ferrell said. “We’re opening up a lot of different jobs and work.”


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: womenincombat

1 posted on 02/02/2013 1:24:53 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I’ve seen men and women do exciting things on the battlefield

. . .

2 posted on 02/02/2013 1:27:54 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And I’ll tell you all right now, that the Generals and Admirals that lack the stones to speak up on women in combat and gays in the military are the same people who will carry out orders to fire on U.S. civilians.


3 posted on 02/02/2013 1:33:29 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan
And I’ll tell you all right now, that the Generals and Admirals that lack the stones to speak up on women in combat and gays in the military are the same people who will carry out orders to fire on U.S. civilians.

BINGO!

4 posted on 02/02/2013 1:42:11 PM PST by JohnG45
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Frackheads like this idiot are retained and promoted. Fighting men like Mattis that ask what 2rd and 3rd order effects are get relieved.
5 posted on 02/02/2013 1:42:34 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: SampleMan

My sons will never serve in the US military.

We’ll wait until the landings hit Va Beach, thank you.

...2/508 PIR, 82nd ABN 80-84, 90-91


6 posted on 02/02/2013 1:44:04 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Here is this hero's official bio sheet. Anyone ever cross paths with him in the US Army? I note he received the Silver Star but i suspect that it was due to command in combat. Anyone know the story? My wife's uncle got the SS also but he got it leading a machine gun squad on Okinawa and it was posthumous.

Brigadier General Terry Ferrell
Commanding General
National Training Center, Fort Irwin, California

Brigadier General Terry Ferrell is a native of West Virginia and was commissioned an Armor Officer in 1984, through the Reserve Officer Training Corps program at Marshall University. Brigadier General Ferrell’s key assignments include Commander, A Company, later Commander, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2d Battalion, 68th Armored Regiment, 8th Infantry Division, Baumholder, Germany; Mechanized Infantry Observer/Controller on the Scorpion Team National Training Center, Fort Irwin, California; Small Group Instructor Infantry Officer Advanced Course, Fort Benning, Georgia; Squadron S3, Regimental S3, and Regimental Executive Officer, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, Fort Carson, Colorado.

Brigadier General Ferrell Commanded 3rd Squadron, 7th Cavalry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Georgia from January 2001 to May 2003. During this time period he deployed the squadron in support of OPERATION JOINT FORGE (SFOR 9) in Bosnia-Herzegovina and combat operations in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Following his assignment as the Deputy Chief of Future Operations Division, J3, North American Aerospace Defense Command, Peterson Air Force Base, Colorado, he commanded 2d Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Georgia from March 2006 to August 2008 and deployed the brigade in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom in South Central Iraq. Following command, Brigadier General Ferrell served as the Chief of Staff, 3rd Infantry Division. Brigadier General Ferrell’s previous assignments were as the Assistant Division Commander (Support) later Assistant Division Commander (Maneuver), 2d Infantry Division, Republic of Korea.
Brigadier General Terry Ferrell holds a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Counseling and Rehabilitation from Marshall University, a Master's of Business Administration from Central Michigan University, and a Master's of Strategic Studies from the U.S. Army War College. His military schooling includes the Armor Officer Basic and Advanced Courses, Combined Services Staff School, Command and General Staff College, and the United States Army War College.

Brigadier General Ferrell’s awards and decorations include the Distinguished Service Medal, Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Bronze Star Medal, Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, Army Commendation Medal, and the Combat Action Badge.

http://www.irwin.army.mil/CommandGroupUnits/NTCcommand/Pages/CG.aspx

7 posted on 02/02/2013 1:45:52 PM PST by robowombat
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To: SampleMan

What a bunch of jerks for officers, especially Gens. Not a damn Gen we have has ever been a company CO in combat of a US Infantry or US marine line company. You folks tell me all about those women who are going to hump the bush, mountains, desert, etc. for 4-5 days at a whack, carry 400 rounds of 5.56 ammo, a 60 mm mortar round in their rucksack, plus extra grenades, claymores, radio batteries, rations for 5 days, water for at least two days, and; you tell me how they are going to hold up? My bet is these women Infantry officers will have their PT tests dumbed down just like those women in Afghan who went around with US Infantry units and talked to Afghan women. The lioness program was BS if anyone talked to men below the rank of O-5. If you have not commanded an infantry unit in combat-do not speak.


8 posted on 02/02/2013 1:55:33 PM PST by Lumper20 (`)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Patton’s rolling over in his grave.


9 posted on 02/02/2013 1:59:37 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

>>Brig. Gen. Terry Ferrell said. “The enemy we face doesn’t distinguish between men and women.”

Dumbest. Statement. EVER!

Has this sad clown ever seen a burkha or the morality police? How many Saudi women has he seen driving a car? Swimming in a pool with men? If he wants to insert his head into Obama’s rectum, that’s fine, but he shouldn’t make public statements from there.


10 posted on 02/02/2013 2:00:48 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Lumper20
I am a former REMF but saw enough to know the rightness of your remarks. I just finished reading Grunts: Inside the American Infantry Combat Experience, World War II Through Iraq by John C. McManus and Audie Murphy’s To Hell and Back and Coral Comes High by George P. Hunt. Those of whatever gender who think this feminizing of the infantry company is super cool should read at least one of these closely. Hunt's book is not much over a hundred pages but will give the egalitarians diarrhea. Unfortunately all of the wizards of smart including most general really believe that protracted high intensity combat is a thing of the past never to return. History has a cruel lesson in store for the US and its ground combat forces.
11 posted on 02/02/2013 2:11:02 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“...she said her logistics team delivered supplies and drove on the same roads as infantry soldiers assigned to combat engagement.”

Well alrighty then! Never mind the pugil stick training. Grab a couple of grenades and come join us at the front!


12 posted on 02/02/2013 2:56:25 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I trained at Fort Irwin years ago (it was a NG post, "Camp Irwin," back then.) The largest growing organism in the entire post besides tankers was a species of grey bushes about two feet high. The closest woman was no doubt in Barstow, hiding. If they had been out there in the dust, I'm sure "exciting things" would have been happening.
13 posted on 02/02/2013 3:00:08 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lumper20
Irwin is close the Death Valley and just about as hot. Legend has it that Patton trained his tanks here for duty in No Africa. We had tactical exercises there in 100+ degree temps, with sustained high winds and dust storms. My unit was a largely Hispanic armor unit from Yuma Arizona, and they were, to put it mildly, hard core. They could have gone to war.

But I would not have wanted to witness a smallish female humping 60 pound antitank rounds or adjusting track tension under those conditions, much less if they were being shot at.

14 posted on 02/02/2013 3:08:27 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: robowombat

One of the cruelist lessons I watched on TV during the initial hours of the US Invasion of Iraq. A US platoon or squad encountered a machine gun plus a suspected tank in a barn/building. The idiots had no damn training on how to call in ARTY or air. These were the same clowns who allowed the Iraqi’s in the buses to pass by and get behind their lines. These clowns for officers we have now who have never been LT’s and CPT’s in this war in the Infantry or SF, or the CORP, have no right to speak for that EM who does the dying in the Infantry. That “Follow Me Statue” at Benning will be a drag queen with zero as our CIC. Their is a huge difference in being a combat pilot as you fly your mission, drop your load, and; you are back to the O club and a safe place to sleep. Hell, every war has had indirect fire hit basecamps. These damn woman and gays will ruin the military. It is already ruined as it is 90% mech infantry. Hell, it appears we ride up and down MSR’s. That is begging to get your men killed. Had I taken my SF NCO’s plus Rhade yards and driven up and down roads-I damn sure could have got them KIA by RPG’s and 155 arty IED’s. That would never have happened as my NCO’s would have talked to my superiors who would have relieved me. And Petraeus is a damn joke as CI was part of the SF officers course in 66-67. He did not invent COIN.


15 posted on 02/02/2013 3:10:28 PM PST by Lumper20 (`)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Armor is not INFANTRY. You are riding. MECH Infantry is a damn joke, too.


16 posted on 02/02/2013 3:14:21 PM PST by Lumper20 (`)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ferrell, sucking his way up thatladder.


17 posted on 02/02/2013 3:47:02 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“For me personally as a Lt. Col. it makes no direct impact, but for a younger officer or soldier it could because now there are other opportunities,” McCulley said.
And that's what going to war is all about - opportunities. God help us.
18 posted on 02/02/2013 4:00:31 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SampleMan

“And I’ll tell you all right now, that the Generals and Admirals that lack the stones to speak up on women in combat and gays in the military are the same people who will carry out orders to fire on U.S. civilians.”

WOW. THAT SAYS IT ALL (caps used)


19 posted on 02/02/2013 4:48:17 PM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Brig. Gen. Terry Ferrell said. 'The enemy we face doesn’t distinguish between men and women.'"

Is he a homosexual, or is he only retarded?


20 posted on 02/02/2013 5:17:41 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Lumper20
You have seen the elephant a number of times. You should write more about specific experiences and relate them to the current transformation of the combat arms into the Village People. ‘This kind of War’ was given to me by a friend's father who said it would be ‘revelatory’. It was, all officers and NCO’s ought have to read it and explain its relevancy. That wouldn't go down to well with the current Rainbow Coalition leadership.
21 posted on 02/02/2013 5:53:41 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Lumper20

I was a tank commander in Vietnam and a Mech Inf SL with 2 different units in the 1st Bde of the 5th Mech Inf in 1970-71. Every night set up RPG screens for our ACAVS, dug in at least one primary fighting position (when time permitted an alternate or supplementary one or both even) as part of the company defensive plan in the NDP, and spent at LEAST as much time walking as riding with 80 lb or more rucks on patrol when the ACAVS were parked in those NDP’s and daylight defensive positions.

Speak to your OWN experience, not mine.


22 posted on 02/02/2013 8:28:01 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: robowombat
A REMF all the way....Chairborne numbnuts. In the rear with the gear.
All his bio tells is that he punched his ticket from a comfortable area.

No Airborne tab.
No RANGER tab.
No CIB tab.

All he has are 'time served' awards. I'd really like to see the citation for his Silver Star...if it exists.
23 posted on 02/02/2013 10:33:49 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: SampleMan; cyn; Yehuda
And I’ll tell you all right now, that the Generals and Admirals that lack the stones to speak up on women in combat and gays in the military are the same people who will carry out orders to fire on U.S. civilians.

The plus side is that by pushing this sick, accursed agenda - and proudly at that - they are plainly outing themselves to all who have ears to hear and eyes to see.

Yours is the same as the rational thought process used in discerning who in our immediate sphere should NOT be trusted when SHTF.

When Daniel was summoned to read the writing on the wall - writing that neither the king nor his party pals could understand - Daniel didn't need to go home and pray for a revelation in order to interpret some mysterious code. He immediately understood the message. It was pretty much a no-brainer when viewed in context and history (Ch 5 verses 17-24).

24 posted on 02/02/2013 11:22:13 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“The enemy we face doesn’t distinguish between men and women.”

Yes they do - they wouldn't want to be captured by Indian Squaws, but they much prefer fighting women over men.

25 posted on 02/03/2013 3:10:46 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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