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As Self-Immolations Approach 100, Some Tibetans Are Asking if It Is Worth It
New York Times ^ | February 2, 2013 | By JIM YARDLEY

Posted on 02/02/2013 5:03:01 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

NEW DELHI — A crowd of Tibetans came here to India’s capital last week, bearing flags and political banners and a bittersweet mixture of hope and despair. A grim countdown was under way: The number of Tibetans who have set themselves on fire to protest Chinese rule in Tibet had reached 99, one short of an anguished milestone.

Yet as that milestone hung over the estimated 5,000 Tibetans who gathered in a small stadium, so did an uncertainty about whether the rest of the world was paying attention at all. In speeches, Tibetan leaders described the self-immolations as the desperate acts of a people left with no other way to draw global attention to Chinese policies in Tibet.

“What is forcing these self-immolations?” Lobsang Sangay, prime minister of the Tibetan government in exile, asked in an interview. “There is no freedom of speech. There is no form of political protest allowed in Tibet.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: buddhism; china; deathtoll; redchina; suicide; tibet; tibetanbuddhism
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1 posted on 02/02/2013 5:03:04 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I curse the Chinese every day over the Tibet takeover. Dam’em.


2 posted on 02/02/2013 5:04:48 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The Chinese have the option of immolating all the Tibetans.


3 posted on 02/02/2013 5:04:48 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Too bad they don’t have the same PR firm that the Occupy Wallstreeters had.........our MSM.


4 posted on 02/02/2013 5:07:46 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Sounds like a burning question.


5 posted on 02/02/2013 5:08:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Tibetans know if it’s worthwhile.

FtTs.


6 posted on 02/02/2013 5:08:24 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: BipolarBob

While technically that was part of China all along (for millennia) it was only in modern times that the Chinese government took it upon themselves to exercise brutality in the region. The Tibetans are peaceful people, but they were a pain to the monopoly of power that Communist China wanted to keep.


7 posted on 02/02/2013 5:12:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Live FREE. You are going to die anyways.

some Tibetans

LOL (spit)

8 posted on 02/02/2013 5:22:19 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

I didn’t say “some Tibetans.”


9 posted on 02/02/2013 5:23:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: bigheadfred

Get the pun, son, BURNING question?


10 posted on 02/02/2013 5:24:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Wonder how they feel about the right to keep and bear arms...


11 posted on 02/02/2013 6:08:42 PM PST by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I'll wok u thru this.

The Tibetans are peaceful people (yeah you said that)

People who do NOT live in fear are peaceful. They live FREE.

"some Tibetans" is part of the thread title.

You (seem) to be intelligent. Some Tibetans choose to end their life in protest. A protest that CONSUMES their lives. But no others.

Yeah. "I" would rather live my life under a regime that sucks the life and future of a life from myselves or any progeny before I would rather LIVE FREE.

Me personally? I am going to live free.

BOY

12 posted on 02/02/2013 6:27:29 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So, the monks are pacifists and refuse to fight. But, they set themselves on fire to send a message of.....what exactly?

Seems like they must think the media will somehow spotlight their issues to the world. One problem though. The leftist media (such as the NY Times) is 100% behind the communists and are communists themselves so there is no way they will help get the word out on Tibet. So it really is pointless. They need to figure it out. Passive resistance is no longer an option today.


13 posted on 02/02/2013 6:28:16 PM PST by Newtoidaho
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To: Brad from Tennessee

it’s one of the stupidest things a person can do. nobody cares if you starve yourself. nobody cares if you torch yourself.


14 posted on 02/02/2013 6:29:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: bigheadfred

“BOY” — is that your signature, son?

I’m saying the Tibetans are not to blame for China’s ham handedness upon them. Cheese whiz.


15 posted on 02/02/2013 6:33:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Brad from Tennessee; Candor7
...so did an uncertainty about whether the rest of the world was paying attention at all. In speeches, Tibetan leaders described the self-immolations as the desperate acts of a people left with no other way to draw global attention to Chinese policies in Tibet.

I guess the NYTs can claim they have covered it now but I don't recall hearing much about this in the very liberal American MSM. I suppose they didn't want to undercut former Sec State Hillbilly Clinton whose first comments as Sec State were, to paraphrase, "we're not going to press human rights issues with China because we owe them so much money."

16 posted on 02/02/2013 6:36:01 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I’m reminded of the Patton quote about dying for ones country versus “making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.”


17 posted on 02/02/2013 6:38:57 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Gotcha.

You aren’t to blame for any of the horror your President is laying on me...

(teehee)


18 posted on 02/02/2013 6:48:47 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

Utter non sequitur, lad


19 posted on 02/02/2013 6:50:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It is a shame what is happening in Tibet. I look at my grandkids and think about what their future will be. It doesn’t make me want to kill myself but it does set a fire under my ass...


20 posted on 02/02/2013 6:56:06 PM PST by bigheadfred
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