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FILTH AND FURY: Homeless return to debase Grand Central Terminal (Bloomberg's NYC)
NY Post ^ | 2/3/13 | MICHAEL GARTLAND

Posted on 02/03/2013 7:04:13 AM PST by jimbo123

In celebration of its 100th birthday, the bad old days have returned to Grand Central Terminal.

Droves of homeless people are flooding the landmark again — even as workers prepared for last week’s centennial celebration.

On a windy Wednesday, The Post spotted at least 40 hobos in search of free eats and a warm place to flop.

“It’s nauseating,” said Yvette Molina, a Tarrytown resident, who was lunching in the concourse. “It’s really disgusting. It makes you lose your appetite.”

In scenes reminiscent of the 1980s, one man picked through the garbage, rewarding himself with a half-eaten slice of pizza and a bag of nuts. A woman snored loudly as she slept, sitting upright on a concourse bench. And another man hoisted an oil can of Foster’s lager with filth-encrusted fingers.

The sights and smells — the stench of body odor easily overwhelmed the appetizing aromas from Magnolia Bakery — are enough to rattle the senses of even the most seasoned travelers and workers.

“Every day you see new homeless. Sometimes they smell — a bad smell,” said Hafiza Supti, who works at a Hudson News stand. “I have to move from one place to the other place.”

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1 posted on 02/03/2013 7:04:18 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Isn’t it a damn shame we have to tolerate folks that are so less unfortunate than ourselves? /s


2 posted on 02/03/2013 7:09:03 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: jimbo123
"And another man hoisted an oil can of Foster’s lager..."

IIRC, those check in at 25 ounces. Well, at least it wasn't a soda.

3 posted on 02/03/2013 7:09:20 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: babygene

less unfortunate = less fortunate


4 posted on 02/03/2013 7:10:46 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: jimbo123

They had to throw in the “bad as the ‘80s reference”....the dreadful Pres. Reagan era, doncha know.

Where were all these disgusting bums during the past four years? Doing what bums always do, but not being mentioned by the Obamedia, of course.


5 posted on 02/03/2013 7:12:19 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

Bad 80’s were the Koch and Dinkins days in NYC.


6 posted on 02/03/2013 7:13:55 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Jesus died for that smell....I have always remembered that phrase after reading a testimony about a homeless man coming into the Brooklyn Tabernacle...the pastor was overwhelmed by the smell of the young man...but in that instance..he heard the Lord speak to his heart saying...”I died for that smell...changed the pastors heart and his ministry grew.


7 posted on 02/03/2013 7:15:26 AM PST by leenie312
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To: jimbo123

As I recall, they had to flush out and round up all the bums so that they wouldn’t sully the view of Slick Willy’s double-wide Presidential Library and Whorehouse in Little Rock.

It’s OK for liberals to do this, why won’t Bloomturd?

Oh, yeah, he’s a Republican.


8 posted on 02/03/2013 7:17:22 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Bloomberg Logic = 25 oz beer: good, 25 ounce pepsi: bad


9 posted on 02/03/2013 7:18:00 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Fresh Wind

Bloomberg isn’t a Republican.


10 posted on 02/03/2013 7:19:17 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Send them to the White House. Obama cares.


11 posted on 02/03/2013 7:19:36 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Fresh Wind
Oh, yeah, he’s a Republican.

Objection your honor. That's pure speculation.
12 posted on 02/03/2013 7:21:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: txrefugee
They had to throw in the “bad as the ‘80s reference”....the dreadful Pres. Reagan era, doncha know.

The NY Post is likely referencing the bad old days of the 80's when Koch and Dinkins were in charge. The days prior to Giuliani are often referred to as that in NYC.

Giuliani cleaned up the streets and swept the bums out of a lot of public places.

I'm not sure what the sympathy is for bums and hobo's here. Those people are a public nuisance and should not be allowed to fester in parks and public places. They should be constantly rounded up and either put in mental institutions, shelters, or corralled where they are not a danger to the general public.

13 posted on 02/03/2013 7:23:21 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: babygene

I agree with your sentiment. Who knows what these peoples’ lives are like and why they are there. I have a heck of a lot more empathy and understanding for them than I do for those liberals who want to save the world by giving the shirts off of other peoples’ backs, while living hypocritically pampered lives themselves.


14 posted on 02/03/2013 7:25:03 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: cripplecreek

Bloomturd was elected twice as a Republican and once as an independent.

That makes him as much a Republican as Arlen Spectre.


15 posted on 02/03/2013 7:25:44 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: babygene

“...we havet o tolerate folks that are so less unfortuante than ourselves/s”

True compassion for the homeless would be reopening the mental institutions that were closed by liberals in the name of compassion. Many (if not most) of these homeless have mental conditons and need a more structured/institutionalized environment, not free license to wander. Liberals Lack Logic.


16 posted on 02/03/2013 7:29:13 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: leenie312

Jesus didn’t die so they could wallow in slavery to sloth and sin while we pitch money at them.


17 posted on 02/03/2013 7:31:45 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: stonehouse01

There are a lot of closed prisons in America that are quite modern and with a little modification could make great housing for the homeless. You could remove the gates and put individual locks on the doors for residents. There is plenty of office space for mental health professionals to work out of etc.

However there is also the cost. I suppose some of it could be offset by residents doing much of the work that needs to be done.


18 posted on 02/03/2013 7:43:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Longbow1969

They can be dangerous.

I was stopped at a light in Houston when one ran up and grabbed my arm and started trying to climb in the window of the crew cab I was driving.

I punched him and he back off then tried climbing in the back window and he was trying to bite the guy sitting in back.

One of the guys in back had to kick him to get him out of the window he was half way in the truck.


19 posted on 02/03/2013 7:44:48 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: jimbo123

That’ nice that some woman thought more of herself than actually helping one of the hobo’s — I mean if 40 people bought an extra slice of pizza - and another 40 bought some blankets - and another 40 bought some essential bathroom supplies - it might make a difference that we leave not those that our less fortunate than ourselves...but no - I know welfare and the rest is a broken program - but it is what it is...I’ve done it here and there - offered those with help - sometimes they take it - sometimes they don’t...but it is offered...

I wonder what the “state run media” would do if a republican walked in to Grand Central and made that comment...of course - we all know exactly what would occur...but as long as it occurs on the liberal watch — nothing is said...pathetic...


20 posted on 02/03/2013 7:46:15 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: jimbo123
As one who commuted for many years into Grand Central, you can not imagine what it was like back then, when it used to be open 24/7, and before the restoration. The place was like Calcutta, an open sewer. God forbid you had to use the bathroom. Assuming you could tolerate the stench, you'd see hordes of homeless, many of them crazy, half-naked, bathing in the sinks, washing their clothes..draping them over the radiators to dry in the waiting area . There were hundreds living in the tunnels around the station.

People don't realize the impact these things have on the economy, the life style of the city. The theater, concerts, in NY was long a joy of living/working in and near NYC. Thousands of commuters who worked in NY regularly went during the week. Your spouse would take the train in to meet you in the late afternoon.

Broadway curtains used to go up at 8 or 8:30. You'd have a nice dinner, in one of the many restaurants in the theater district, walk to to your show, get out between 11-12, then go back to your restaurant for coffee, dessert, a brandy,a and conversation, then take a cab to Grand Central,and catch the milk train about 2:30 am...sleep on the train, and then drive home from the local station.. a few miles. Funny, I also remember that the milk train would carry the papers, Times, News, Post, WSJ to be dropped off at the stations for all the morning commuters.

So when they closed GC, to keep the homeless out, theaters started 7 or 7:30 curtains, so that out of towners could still make the last train, about 1 am, but nobody eats dinner before or after the theater nowadays..Restaurant row, and a long enjoyable evening, is no more..

21 posted on 02/03/2013 7:49:15 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: jimbo123
"“It’s nauseating,” said Yvette Molina, a Tarrytown resident, who was lunching in the concourse. “It’s really disgusting. It makes you lose your appetite.”

Hey Yvette! since you lost your appetite, give your meal to the homeless person who needs his appetite satiated! You're the one who's disgusting.

BTW, didn't Bloomberg a few years ago stop the churches from allowing to shelter homeless people?

22 posted on 02/03/2013 7:53:03 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: ken5050
Assuming you could tolerate the stench, you'd see hordes of homeless, many of them crazy, half-naked, bathing in the sinks, washing their clothes..draping them over the radiators to dry in the waiting area .

I find the comments criticizing the homeless for being dirty or smelly and those criticizing them for doing what they can to get clean in the only places they can access a tad contradictory.

I understand the frustration of those who have to deal with them, but exactly how is such a person supposed to keep himself clean? Very few private businesses will let them use their restrooms, for entirely understandable reasons.

23 posted on 02/03/2013 7:57:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: AppyPappy

Wow..I didn’t realise I said all that!!!! Jesus had compassion on his fellowman...he went where the downtrodden were and he gave them hope and a hand up.


24 posted on 02/03/2013 7:58:04 AM PST by leenie312
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To: ken5050

Your post reminded me of something.
There are/were homeless who live in the subway tunnels. When Sandy flooded the subways, chances are many drowned in the tunnels. The stench must be horrible there considering there would have been no proper burial.

Maybe Sandy moved the underground homeless to above ground. Chances are the homeless were always in NYC, just hidden till now.


25 posted on 02/03/2013 8:06:22 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Sherman Logan
Oh, please..get reral..

NYC had plenty of shelters back then, where the homeless could get hot showers, food, a place to sleep, and even washing machines. Much of the homeless population, mainly those with psychological and/or addiction problems prefer living on the streets to going to the shelters. This is the population that took over GC.

Back before Guliani was elected, it was not uncommon to see a homeless person, mid day, in midtown, squatting between two parked cars taking a dump.

26 posted on 02/03/2013 8:06:40 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Sherman Logan
Oh, please..get real..

NYC had plenty of shelters back then, where the homeless could get hot showers, food, a place to sleep, and even washing machines. Much of the homeless population, mainly those with psychological and/or addiction problems prefer living on the streets to going to the shelters. This is the population that took over GC.

Back before Guliani was elected, it was not uncommon to see a homeless person, mid day, in midtown, squatting between two parked cars taking a dump.

27 posted on 02/03/2013 8:06:52 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: stonehouse01

“True compassion for the homeless would be reopening the mental institutions that were closed by liberals in the name of compassion. Many (if not most) of these homeless have mental conditons and need a more structured/institutionalized environment, not free license to wander.”

The only thing required to make you homeless is to not have a home... Clearly some of the people in this category have mental conditions as do some of the people who do have homes. I don’t know what the break down is and neither do you.

As for myself, I have been fortunate in life; I’m rich, I’m handsome, I have a very high IQ and a loving family and a loving GOD. Life is good...


28 posted on 02/03/2013 8:07:27 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: BCW
That’ nice that some woman thought more of herself than actually helping one of the hobo’s — I mean if 40 people bought an extra slice of pizza - and another 40 bought some blankets - and another 40 bought some essential bathroom supplies - it might make a difference that we leave not those that our less fortunate than ourselves...but no - I know welfare and the rest is a broken program - but it is what it is...I’ve done it here and there - offered those with help - sometimes they take it - sometimes they don’t...but it is offered...

If people started giving more free handouts, the number of bums would increase. There is essentially an infinite supply of freeloaders and down-and-outers. Give away goodies, no matter how spartan, and more will come.

There are shelters which all have simple rules: no drinking, no smoking, no fighting, stuff like that. The bums don't like the rules, so they go elsewhere. It is not a case of the have not wanting to help the poor among them. It is a case of the poor and the filthy not wanting the help that is available.

29 posted on 02/03/2013 8:08:05 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Most of the tunnel inhabitants are in the midtown area. The subways flooded only in lower Manhattan. There might have been a few that drowned, but I suspect not.


30 posted on 02/03/2013 8:09:08 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: leenie312

He didn’t enable their bad behavior.


31 posted on 02/03/2013 8:15:03 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: babygene

“As for myself, I have been fortunate in life; I’m rich, I’m handsome, I have a very high IQ and a loving family and a loving GOD. Life is good...”

Some of my buddies and I are having a rough go of it. What say we come stay at your place a while. Shouldn’t be too terribly long. We won’t eat or drink too much. Might need to borrow a car now and then if you would leave the keys in it. Or even if you don’t. One of my pals—well, okay, a couple—aren’t exactly house-trained, if you know what I mean. But you’ll get used to it. And it really isn’t that hard to clean anyway. Upside is we’ll never take a shower!

Whaddya say there good lookin’? You and your loving GOD?

p.s. “rich, handsome, high IQ”...your name happen to be Biden?


32 posted on 02/03/2013 8:34:22 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: leenie312
Jesus died for that smell..

We still have to distinguish between the deserving poor and the lazy. "He who does not work, neither shall he eat."

33 posted on 02/03/2013 8:39:34 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: txrefugee
Doing what bums always do, but not being mentioned by the Obamedia, of course.

AP (ADMINISTRAION NEWS)= the source of about 75% of all national news.


Joseph Gobbles would be ecstatic.
34 posted on 02/03/2013 8:40:22 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jimbo123

“The poor you will always have with you...”
Matthew 26:11


35 posted on 02/03/2013 8:42:59 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: cripplecreek; Fresh Wind
Oh, yeah, he’s a Republican.

Objection your honor. That's pure speculation.

In a court of law, Bloomberg's assertion, on the stand, that he's a Republican, would be perjury. Objective evidence can be obtained by going over to DU and noticing how many times they "hate" the Republican Bloomberg, as opposed to how many times they hate any other Republican.

36 posted on 02/03/2013 9:29:06 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: Hardastarboard
Objective evidence can be obtained by going over to DU and noticing how many times they "hate" the Republican Bloomberg, as opposed to how many times they hate any other Republican.

Thus proving my case against all so called GOP moderates.
37 posted on 02/03/2013 9:33:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hardastarboard; cripplecreek; Fresh Wind
Oh, yeah, he’s a Republican.

Objection your honor. That's pure speculation.

In a court of law, Bloomberg's assertion, on the stand, that he's a Republican, would be perjury.

Actually, Bloomberg WAS a Republican.

For four years.

Bloomberg, a life-long liberal Democrat, changed his registration to Republican in order to run for the mayoralty. Why? He couldn't have won the Democrat primary. So, he became a Republican.

But, before his first term was over, he renounced his Republicanism and re-styled himself as an Independent. He was re-elected as an Independent.

So, for four fleeting years, Bloomie actually was a Republican.

Kinda...

38 posted on 02/03/2013 9:34:58 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: jimbo123
The Post spotted at least 40 hobos in search of free eats and a warm place to flop.

These are not hoboes. These are bums. Hoboes work, bums "bum" things, like "free eats".

39 posted on 02/03/2013 9:44:39 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: okie01
Actually, Bloomturd was a Republican for eight fleeting years. He switched to independent when he ran for his third term, after getting the NYC term limit law changed so it would be legal for him to run again.
40 posted on 02/03/2013 10:22:33 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

“Some of my buddies and I are having a rough go of it. What say we come stay at your place a while. Shouldn’t be too terribly long.”

Sure... Come on over. You could use the motor home too. It sleeps six.


41 posted on 02/03/2013 12:43:01 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Give the address, baby.

Or is your charity, like your money, your great looks, your motorhome and your GOD just more dribblin’ b.s. running out of your mouth?


42 posted on 02/03/2013 1:26:29 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: CurlyDave

It is a case of the poor and the filthy not wanting the help that is available.

True,...


43 posted on 02/03/2013 2:43:30 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: babygene
Isn’t it a damn shame we have to tolerate folks that are so less unfortunate than ourselves? /s

Isn’t it a damn shame we have to tolerate senility and its accompanying nonsense as part of the human condition?

Some things are preventable; some are not.

44 posted on 02/03/2013 3:43:51 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Fightin Whitey

“Or is your charity, like your money, your great looks, your motorhome and your GOD just more dribblin’ b.s. running out of your mouth?”

Not BS, but tongue in cheek. However, the wife and I have taken homeless people into our home from time to time. They have always been families though... Never a problem, they are not all crazy and even the crazy ones are mostly harmless.


45 posted on 02/03/2013 4:07:20 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Fresh Wind

He was a Republican briefly, when it suited his purposes and worked to get him elected. He was originally a Dem; how he’s Ind.


46 posted on 02/03/2013 4:11:57 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: babygene

babygene, with all due respect, I don’t think you are familiar with the types of homeless that inhabit Grand Central and the NYC subway system. And I strongly doubt you would invite even one of them into your home. It would be putting yourself, your wife and family in danger.

They are truly the wretched of the earth. You look at them and wonder what their story is, how did they get there. If we knew the answer it would most likely involve drugs and excessive use of alcohol. It’s very sad. But for them, certainly most of them, there is no going back to a ‘normal’ life. Their minds and any pride they may once have had is gone. They will die in the subway tunnels or on the street grates, and be buried in a Potter’s Field.


47 posted on 02/03/2013 4:38:30 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

“babygene, with all due respect, I don’t think you are familiar with the types of homeless that inhabit Grand Central and the NYC subway system. And I strongly doubt you would invite even one of them into your home. It would be putting yourself, your wife and family in danger.”

You know, I have been through there dozens of times while visiting my brother. (he lives 50 miles north of the city)

Your right, some of them are pretty scary. And your right, I wouldn’t invite some of them (probably most of them) into my home.

However, I wasn’t kidding when I addressed that other Freeper. I am rich by most standards, and good looking (for my age) and educated. I have been very fortunate in life.

It hasn’t always been that way... My family didn’t have electricity until I was eleven or twelve, and indoor plumbing until I was out of the home at seventeen. (I’m 66)


48 posted on 02/03/2013 5:11:01 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

My apologies.

I really did not catch your wit, and I should have dug a little deeper.

The holier-than-thou types who feel oh-so-sorry about the homeless while riding in their limos to the network set (why do Chris Matthews and Mika Brzezinski come suddenly to mind?) were the ones I was lashing out at.

Thanks for setting me straight and, again, my apologies.


49 posted on 02/03/2013 5:39:15 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: babygene

Well I did not think there were any homeless left after 4 years of the ONE. Paging Obama,homeless in New York


50 posted on 02/04/2013 3:57:31 AM PST by ballplayer
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