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Why is government stockpiling guns, ammo?(Video at Link)
WND ^ | 2/4/2013 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 02/04/2013 5:36:46 AM PST by IbJensen

Is the U.S. government getting ready for a war we don’t know about?

And, if that’s why Washington is stockpiling massive amounts of ammunition (hollow points, by the way), why is Homeland Security doing the buying instead of the Defense Department?

I have some theories.

Many of you will remember a story I broke a long time ago – about presidential candidate Barack Obama’s little-noticed announcement that, if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a “civilian national security force” as big, as strong and as well-funded as the Defense Department.

Here’s what he actually said at a campaign stop in Colorado July 2, 2008: “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

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Could what we see happening now in the Department of Homeland Security be the beginning of Obama’s dream and our constitutional nightmare?

We’ve learned more about Obama’s vision since then. Maybe it’s time for a review: •He made the campaign promise to build this $439 billion domestic army, but all references to the initiative were inexplicably deleted from the copy of his speech posted on his website while others mysteriously disappeared from transcripts of the speech distributed by the campaign. That was strange – and ominous. •At the time, I had never heard anyone use the phrase “civilian national security force” before. But I did a little homework and found out where it originated. It was first proposed by then Bush administration Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; dearleader; evilobamaregime; govtabuse; guncontrol; halfricanphony; liar; obama; secondamendment; tyranny
The people need to fight for their right to bear arms.

If a tyrannical government is unopposed by armed citizens then it will make their job a lot easier for the central socialist government to take control and enslave you. This is the beginning of a dictatorship. America never needed more departments or agencies like the DHS. What are the CIA, FBI, NSA, state and local law enforcement, and the military for?

The more agencies this government creates, the more bureaucracy and governmental control that results and consequently people begin to lose their freedoms more and more. Creating another agency gives Obama and his lunatic friends the advantage of hand picking the members; therefore, this police force would be loyal to the dictator in chief and to the government.

1 posted on 02/04/2013 5:36:53 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
Many of you will remember a story I broke a long time ago – about presidential candidate Barack Obama’s little-noticed announcement that, if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a “civilian national security force” as big, as strong and as well-funded as the Defense Department.

The good news is that the “civilian national security force” will be composed of affirmative-action types.

Affirmative-action types are total incompetents.

It will be proven very, very quickly.

2 posted on 02/04/2013 5:41:41 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: IbJensen

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2985076/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2985045/posts


3 posted on 02/04/2013 5:41:50 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: IbJensen

I think they’re just trying to get stuff of the streets.


4 posted on 02/04/2013 5:59:19 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: humblegunner

These toads will be easy prey for ambush and taken out...


5 posted on 02/04/2013 5:59:22 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: IbJensen

I’m starting to think the whole thing is a money laundering scheme. Ammo is the perfect thing to say you are buying when in fact you are just shifting money around and getting kickbacks.

When it is time to reconcile the books, you just say the ammo was used up at the range.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 6:24:35 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: IbJensen
Creating another agency gives Obama and his lunatic friends the advantage of hand picking the members; therefore, this police force would be loyal to the dictator in chief and to the government.

How soon until an excuse if offered explaining why convicted felons are holding high office in the “civilian national security force”?

Sociopaths and sadists have places in totalitarian organizations... always have. Professional police organizations work to weed out the thin skinned - those with chips on their shoulders. And common criminals... Groups like TSA don't... maybe for a reason.

My guess is this administration will use the 'they've paid their debt to society' meme... or maybe a race card or two. The excuses will be lie, but the idiots at the New York Times and Washington Post will buy these liberal excuse without question. And soon - even the excuses won't be offered. It'll just 'be'... and it'll be waaay to late for the New York Times to object...

7 posted on 02/04/2013 6:58:27 AM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The good news is that the “civilian national security force” will be composed of affirmative-action types.”

The bad news is that the affirmative-action types can be very vicious


8 posted on 02/04/2013 7:00:32 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: GOPJ

9 posted on 02/04/2013 7:03:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dangerdoc
When it is time to reconcile the books, you just say the ammo was used up at the range.

Except they never reconcile the books. Every year the GAO puts out a report saying the Federal books are in such a mess it is impossible to audit them. Been going on at least 20 years.

Probably the most under reported scandal going.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2648944/posts

10 posted on 02/04/2013 7:04:41 AM PST by DManA
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To: Tupelo
But they aren't very smart.

They won't fare very well at all when they start the jackboot actions.

They have never experienced resistance of any kind.

11 posted on 02/04/2013 7:14:30 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: IbJensen

Is there any chance that the real intent is to prevent OTHER people from stockpiling ammo before a ban on ammo is passed?


12 posted on 02/04/2013 7:36:05 AM PST by dangus
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To: IbJensen

They have twisted the word “militia” in the 2nd Amendment to prepare for the Homeland Security Militia coming to America.
Wait for it.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 8:09:54 AM PST by sarasota
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To: IbJensen

My comment on WND website:

One defense we may have is to infiltrate the force at all levels. Patriots need to appear to join the oppressors in order to feed information to the resistance. They will also have opportunities to do harm from within (”accidents” at gov’t armories, food poisoning in mess halls, barracks fires, “accidental” deaths of officers and high ranking underlings). But most important will be gathering and passing on intelligence. Get those GIVING the orders whenever possible. I’d volunteer, but I don’t think they’re looking to hire anyone in their seventh decade!


14 posted on 02/04/2013 8:18:38 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: PatriotGirl827

bookmark for later read


15 posted on 02/04/2013 9:14:36 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: stuartcr
"I think they’re just trying to get stuff of the streets."

Yea...I sure they got our best interest at heart...(sic)

16 posted on 02/04/2013 9:43:51 AM PST by unread
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To: IbJensen

A gun isn’t much good without ammo. Have you shopped for any lately, everyone is ‘Out of Stock’


17 posted on 02/04/2013 9:47:03 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: stuartcr
"I think they’re just trying to get stuff of the streets."

Yea...I sure they got our best interest at heart...

18 posted on 02/04/2013 9:47:56 AM PST by unread
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To: JimRed
One defense we may have is to infiltrate the force at all levels.

I think the muzzies already have those jobs.

19 posted on 02/04/2013 10:25:39 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Java4Jay
A gun isn’t much good without ammo. Have you shopped for any lately, everyone is ‘Out of Stock’

Some guy posted a comment here last week that he paid $150.00 for a couple bricks of 22 ammo on line. Those sold for #15.00 to $20.00 a brick, a few weeks ago. A Brick is 500, to 525 rounds depending on the brand. 223 rounds if you can find them are $1.00 a round, so are most common sizes.

20 posted on 02/04/2013 10:29:05 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Java4Jay

This happened after the last election.

Ammo should become more available later this year.

I would recommend that you reload but components are getting sold out too.


21 posted on 02/04/2013 10:46:57 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: IbJensen

Obozo’s civilian militia will be composed of people dumb enough to have voted for him, with government worker level work ethic. F-Troop, hear we come!


22 posted on 02/04/2013 4:57:20 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: dangus

“Is there any chance that the real intent is to prevent OTHER people from stockpiling ammo before a ban on ammo is passed?”

If that were the case, they would be purchasing all calibers and types of ammo.

Unless I’m mistaken, the billions of rounds purchased by DHS are all .40 caliber hollowpoint pistol food.


23 posted on 02/04/2013 5:43:18 PM PST by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: DNME

Thanks for the information; Your logic seems sound.


24 posted on 02/04/2013 7:22:51 PM PST by dangus
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To: IbJensen

There’s an article out on the web site Atlantic Wire http://www.theatlanticwire.com/ explaining how ______ can use drones to kill Americans. The “guidelines” are very vague.

Also, keep in mind it was W who created the DHS.


25 posted on 02/04/2013 9:56:53 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: Java4Jay

everyone is ‘Out of Stock’

Not me.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 10:00:27 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: IbJensen

I’ve been thinking about this all morning after reading another article about DHS soliciting bids to buy even more ammo. Clearly they are EXPECTING civil unrest.
So, I started thinking, “WHY are they expecting it? What makes people take to the streets? It usually involves their money.”
The country IS broke, so I wonder if the plan is to sieze all bank accounts, retirement accounts, etc.


27 posted on 02/07/2013 11:40:54 AM PST by a real Sheila (R.I.P AMERICA 1776 - 2012)
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To: a real Sheila

No need to “sieze” anything.
Just declare a “holiday” where none of your transactions work.

After about 3 hours of EBTs not processing, riots would start.


28 posted on 02/07/2013 11:42:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DNME

Sounds to me like it would be wize to have a firearm or two that would fire .40.


29 posted on 02/07/2013 11:43:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

“Sounds to me like it would be wize to have a firearm or two that would fire .40.”

Why do you say that, Mr. B?

I’m thinking it’s going to be tough to find .40 ammo in months ahead but you must see something different..

Thanks in advance.


30 posted on 02/07/2013 11:51:28 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

Sounds like this ammo will be at specific places in abundance, if the need truly arose.


31 posted on 02/07/2013 12:02:51 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yes. I do agree with that.

And if one lives in the right kind of (God-fearing, U.S.-loving) area, it might even be swiftly, efficiently placed in the right kind of hands.

We can at least hope.


32 posted on 02/07/2013 12:19:59 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: dangerdoc

They want to have all the ammo so when you want some there’s none left to buy. It’s like newspapers who contract with a writer whose philosophy they don’t agree with. They will print certain of his/her articles, but have the option to spike others.


33 posted on 02/07/2013 12:25:43 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: a real Sheila

The phony sociopathic narcissist has a plot to really surprise us this time.


34 posted on 02/07/2013 1:23:18 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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Oregon seems to be all out of 9mm ammo at least in the portland area.


35 posted on 02/25/2013 7:06:52 PM PST by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong preemptive strike.)
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