Posted on 02/04/2013 5:39:56 AM PST by thackney
The state dept is now a sick left wing SOB named John Kerry. This piece ofcrap was opposing oil development 20 years ago, because it would take 10 years to get the oil.
My suggestion is to start building it on either side of the border and by the time it is ready to be joined we may have an American President.
owebama will never approve of anything that generates wealth in the private sector unless said wealth finds its waky back to him in the form of campaign “contributions”.
Would you invest your own money in a company that did business of spending billions while hope the rules change before they completed?
And that's it in a nutshell. The private sector is the (now overtly declared)enemy of this administration. Obama is easily predictable once this is realized.
Winner! Yup, it is not about ecology but an Obama insiders financial affairs.
BTW, it is my understanding the Alaska Pipeline was also fought over phoney ecology concerns in the 60s. The real issue was whose refineries would get the crude.
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Any more info on that claim?
The governors of each state must do what is best for their citizens and the ability to help economically, by allowing the XL pipeline to pass through their states. There are a lot of jobs waiting to be filled with it’s implementation.
Yeah, the issue was whether the pipeline would allow oil to feed refineries in the mid west and having to negotiate through Canada verse West Coast (and asia) which would have been shut out. Banker buddy of mine passed that on to me long ago alleging the conservation issue was a ruse. Whether or not that is correct, I have not the slightest idea. BTW, unless ANWAR is opened for drilling, the pipeline will have to be removed soon as it will be operating on minimum input in a few years.
How could a pipeline to the West coast for loading on a tanker possibly supply oil to the Mid-West?
How could a pipeline to the West coast for loading on a tanker possibly supply oil to the Mid-West?
Pang?
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.
Canada Ping!
Hardly edgy. Canada's Prime Minister, Duncan Harper has the China's Energy Ministry on speed dial. Obama is simply using his environmentalist monkies on a leash as an excuse to protect his fudge packing Saudi buddies oil prices around the world. The Chinese are champing at the bit to finnance the construction of a pipe line from the Oil Sands to a spot near Vancouver, crying , " Solly Alabs, you gotcha bad ruck!"
Obama has been in the pockets of the Arab Princes of the House of Saud ever since he bent over and kissed the King of Saud's ring and got the Saudi medal of honor. Obama has been doing the step and fetch for the Saudi Royals since elected. He is the Saudi's ni**er.It is also the reason there is NO exploration or exploitation for oil in the USA which amounts to anything. The delay is simply caused by a lot of head scratching by Obama to try to sabotage the Chinese financed pipeline to come.
The US environmental monkies are the biggest laugh we have seen in decades up here in Canada.And Obama is the biggest joke on America since W.C Fields, whom America back then had the wisdom not to elect as President. The USA has a real joker in charge now.Too bad. Obama is a Saudomite. Here is US energy policy in a picture:
Alah Acubar....Alahhawalahalloo Akbur! And welcome to Canada's oil world of General Pao's NOT Chicken.
Maybe by magic, I am only reporting what my banker told me. Obviously the path would not have been to the water in Prudoe.
Originally there were concerns of the oil going overseas and not to the west coast. Those concerns were by people who didn’t know how to read a map. Japan is 3 times as far away as the lower 48. I first thought you were referring to that concern.
There was never a way to economically build a pipeline a few thousands of miles to reach the mid-west. While it might have been discussed by politicians and other people not understanding economics, it was never a consideration by any oil company.
A draft report in 2001 tangentially mentions the two distinct routes in a discussion about the environmental impact statement decided in court. One of the issues was a the lack of discussion regarding the alternative route through Canada to the mid west. (http://tapseis.anl.gov/documents/docs/Section_13_May2.pdf)
The court ruled that neither plan had any measurable difference to the EIS. The sole differences concerned cost and timing as a route through Canada would cost much more and take longer, this during the energy crisis of the time.
Whether these routes were generated by the oil companies or politicians I don’t know but the alternate route did exist. Given my buddy’s high position in that money center bank, I have no reason to question his info.
As the report you linked stated, it wasn’t seriously evaluated for economic reasons, but was court ordered to evaluate for Environmental Alternatives.
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