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Japanís Demographic Disaster
The Diplomat ^

Posted on 02/04/2013 5:44:53 AM PST by Perdogg

Last August, I wrote an article for The Diplomat that discussed some of the issues Japan is facing in relation to population decline. As I noted, the population has dropped for three years in a row. Recently, the Japanese government announced that the population decrease for 2012 is expected to be 212,000—a new record—while the number of births is expected to have fallen by 18,000 to 1,033,000—also a record low.

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This is what the US occupiers wanted after World War II to prevent Japan from being a world power according to a book last year (heard on John Batchelor show).
1 posted on 02/04/2013 5:44:57 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 02/04/2013 5:45:51 AM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: Perdogg

Japan is overcrowded. This might not be a bad thing. They already have a big population outside of Japan. The Tokyo-Yokohama area is huge. Nothing but wall to wall apartments. This is about the only area in Japan which is not mountanious, the Kanto Plain.


3 posted on 02/04/2013 5:53:08 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Perdogg

The solution to the population problem in Japan will be robots.

To maintain stability, the rate of robot introduction must match or slightly exceed the population decline.


4 posted on 02/04/2013 5:55:24 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: USAF80
You are correct but this won’t help their retirees who are dependant on the young to pay for their retirement.

Soylent green.

5 posted on 02/04/2013 6:04:28 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: USAF80

Japan’s in a death spiral. At least, we’ll get a sneak peek as to what is in store elsewhere...


6 posted on 02/04/2013 6:05:06 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Perdogg

The only reason a population stabilization or decline is viewed as a “disaster” is because it means the Ponzi Scheme of the Welfare State that most “Western” countries (including Japan) have been saddled with collapses unless there is a continuous supply of young workers to prop it up. In the past, countries have gone through periods of population stabilization or moderate decline and it has not been an issue.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 6:08:03 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: USAF80

Yep. Japanese housing is a joke. Their average apartment is about to fit into my kitchen twice. An idea to take shower standing on a toilet boil to save place for bathroom is another marvel of Japanese architecture. As for idea of a Japanese upper middle class McMansion it is even more ridiculous. A single car garage and all 1.5 levels above your 3-series BMW is your home. I guess is is not easy to fit a few kids into these lifestyles.


8 posted on 02/04/2013 6:11:01 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

It’s a little more complicated than that.

If you build infrastucture for a large population ... but then the population shrinks in size you still have to maintain that infrastructure, but with a much smaller tax base.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 6:22:37 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Perdogg

But, through it all, Japan will remain Japan.

They have not, and will not, allow vast numbers of immigrants to enter and take control of their country.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 6:29:38 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Perdogg

GOP elites and Dems try to convince us that 20 million unskilled Mexicans will make us a more fiscally secure country as they tap into SS, Medicaid, Medicare, etc having paid little into them.

One more example of politicians wanting reelection over doing what is best for the USA.


11 posted on 02/04/2013 6:38:02 AM PST by apoliticalone
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To: cunning_fish

I know what the houses and apartments are like inside. I have a video of the babies kept in dresser drawers because there is no room for a crib. I always show it to people who thinks I’m crazy when I tell them about the lack of living space over there.


12 posted on 02/04/2013 6:54:09 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Perdogg

The fear of the individual for him/herself will always override the fear a person has for their nation, culture or society. That is why the Democrats win.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 8:11:10 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Perdogg

Japanese history shows that they are unlikely to allow a lot of immigrants into their country. I would look for them to ship more of their population out to other countries in a sort of stealth imperialism.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 8:14:33 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Despite the fact Japanese are blatantly racist they have a lot of muslim immigrants too. Some Japanese racial genetics calculated that Pakistanis are DNA siblings to a Japanese race and allowed lot of them to move in to revitalize their demographics. I’m not sure it has really contributed to a Japanese gene pool but it has affected a criminal situation for sure.


15 posted on 02/04/2013 8:31:04 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: blueunicorn6
I would look for them to ship more of their population out to other countries in a sort of stealth imperialism.

The problem is, they are poor travelers.

Unlike their Korean counterparts, I feel the Japanese have a superiority complex which rules out any form of real dialogue.

Here in Indonesia, you rarely see the Japanese venture from their own circle, whether it be schools, supermarkets, or territory.

The beauty of the "Korean Revolution" is that they have embraced "multiculturalism" whilst stubbornly sticking to the teachings of their own culture by NOT allowing the government, the media, the UN or even education to dictate to them who or what is Korean.

16 posted on 02/04/2013 8:33:57 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: blueunicorn6

When I was there they shipped out a lot of Africans when their economy went sour. The Africans were doing jobs that were beneath the average Japanese. They canceled their visas and gave them 90 days to leave the country.


17 posted on 02/04/2013 8:37:02 AM PST by USAF80
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To: cunning_fish

All the Asian cultures are unbelievably racist. Not just against groups vastly different than them but especially against each other.


18 posted on 02/04/2013 8:42:51 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: riri
All the Asian cultures are unbelievably racist

It depends what you mean by "Racist"?

Just because Asian nations don't want to be taken over by foreign religions, cultures, or dare I say it "skin" tone doesn't make them "racist".

Or does it?

19 posted on 02/04/2013 8:52:45 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Well, I can only speak from my experiences with Asian in-laws and their friends. Typically, they don't like any other Asian person UNLESS the choice is a white, black or hispanic person--(:

My MIL is from Thailand and I've gotten the low down on every other Asian group. Dirty Laotians, criminal Cambodians...you get the picture.

It was quite eye opening to me as I grew up on a steady diet of NYS public education kumbaya, only whitey is racist.

But, I have learned a valuable tool. If I go into an Asian owned business, I find a way to sneak into the conversation that my kids are part Thai--I immediately get better treatment. (:

20 posted on 02/04/2013 9:01:24 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: riri

>>>All the Asian cultures are unbelievably racist. Not just against groups vastly different than them but especially against each other.<<<

White people are most hated by any of them.


21 posted on 02/04/2013 9:08:36 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

One of the students in an international business class I was taking worked for a small corporation that did business with the Japanese. A Japanese company bought them. The student asked our professor what changes he thought would take place at the company. The professor listed the various jobs where the American employees would be fired and replaced by a Japanese employee. He also listed the time frame involved in this. He turned out to be 100% correct. The Japanese do move to other countries if it helps their nation. They are very polite, but they have no interest in changing their national identity.


22 posted on 02/04/2013 9:14:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: riri
fair enough.

So what we have learned is that "Asians" are normal.

New Yorkers look down on New jersey.

Yorkshiremen on Lancastrians.

Parisians on everyone.

But, does it make them racist?

Yes, you are right, we (the western world) only seem to believe white people are racist, especially as the media and the schools ram it down are throats 24/7.

The bottom line is this mantra has gone on so long it has taken away form the bigger picture, and that is the west is self-destructing right in front of our eyes.

23 posted on 02/04/2013 9:15:19 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
So what we have learned is that "Asians" are normal.

Basically, yes!

We are like Sneetches. (Dr. Suess)

24 posted on 02/04/2013 9:36:09 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: riri
My MIL is from Thailand and I've gotten the low down on every other Asian group. Dirty Laotians, criminal Cambodians...you get the picture.

My wife is Singapore Chinese. She would add rude (Mainland) Chinese, arrogant and nasty Japanese, and that all Vietnamese - and half the Thais - are prostitutes. And don't even get her started on Indians. :)

On the plus side, she looks up to and respects Taiwanese as the true guardians of Chinese culture and she also has a lot of friends from both Hong Kong and China. She's not a racist - it's a cultural bias. Traditional Chinese think their culture is simply superior to all others...just like traditional Americans do.

In general - even though Han Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans have no great love for each other, all them as lighter skinned Asians from more northerly latitudes look down on darker-skinned Asians from southerly latitudes, dismissing them as redneck farmers and low-class hookers.

But her experience with Chinese businesses, both here and overseas, is different from yours. She finds that if she speaks Mandarin at first she gets ignored or treated rudely - but if she addresses the staff in English they immediately bow and scrape and do everything they can to help her. There seems to be a certian self-loathing among many Chinese - especially from the Mainland. They think Westerners - and especially Americans - are superior people. Might be the legacy of Communism at work.

25 posted on 02/04/2013 3:19:26 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Japan will be fine once they gain the political will to get rid of the remaining feudal trappings and open up land for settlement. Thanks Perdogg.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 6:37:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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