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President Obama to push gun control proposals at Minnesota stop
wvec.com ^ | Feb 4, 2013

Posted on 02/04/2013 6:18:00 AM PST by KeyLargo

President Obama to push gun control proposals at Minnesota stop

Associated Press

Posted on February 4, 2013 at 6:08 AM

Updated today at 6:41 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The fate of his gun proposals on Capitol Hill uncertain, President Barack Obama is seeking to rally support from the public and law enforcement community for his calls to ban assault weapons and install universal background checks for gun buyers.

Obama will pitch his proposals to stem gun violence Monday in Minnesota, a Democratic-leaning state where officials have been studying ways to reduce gun-related attacks and accidents for several years. His visit to the Minneapolis Police Department's Special Operations Center will mark the first time Obama has campaigned on his controversial proposals outside of Washington.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; govtabuse; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment; tyranny
"Obama is expected to make more trips around the country to build support for his anti-gun violence measures. The outside group Organizing For Action, an offshoot of Obama's presidential campaign, is also promoting the proposals."


1 posted on 02/04/2013 6:18:11 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Great state to spew gun grabbing barf in.

This state is practically useless to this republic.


2 posted on 02/04/2013 6:23:06 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Testing the waters to see how his message is received. Starting with a midwest liberal state to see if they are clinging to their bibles and guns.


3 posted on 02/04/2013 6:25:39 AM PST by toolman1401
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To: IbJensen

NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE www.nationalreview.com

The Corner

The one and only.

David Axelrod Attributes Chicago Murder Rate to Lax Gun-Control Laws in ‘Surrounding Areas’

By Eliana Johnson
February 4, 2013 9:01 A.M.

As President Obama prepares to stump for gun-control legislation in Minneapolis today, David Axelrod offered him a helping hand on morning television.
In doing so, Axelrod attributed the murder rate in the city of Chicago, which is subject to some of the most stringent gun-control regulations in the nation, to the lack of such laws in surrounding areas. “We live in Chicago, and one of the reasons we have such a huge problem in this city is that all around us are areas with weak laws and with very lax background checks and a lot of illegal guns flow into this city,” Axelrod told MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough. “Every law enforcement official will tell you that.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/339666

And from the Chicago police officers blog:

Reclassifying Chicago murders to death by natural cause.

Monday, February 04, 2013
Homicide Reclassified - Proof?

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/


4 posted on 02/04/2013 6:36:01 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Do we pay this clown to be a Campaigner In Chief, or to be the boss of the Executive Branch of our Fed Gov? Spend a little time reading the requests for security help from your Ambassadors around the globe, and park AF One for a while!!!


5 posted on 02/04/2013 6:45:46 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: KeyLargo

Do we pay this clown to be a Campaigner In Chief, or to be the boss of the Executive Branch of our Fed Gov? Spend a little time reading the requests for security help from your Ambassadors around the globe, and park AF One for a while!!!


6 posted on 02/04/2013 6:47:47 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: KeyLargo
GUN FOR SALE: Browning Citori XS Skeet in 12 guage. Has 28" barrel with custom stock sized
for youngster or small frame female. Lightly used - fired only one round for photo-op. MSRP $3,499. Asking only $2,999 but price is negotiable. Will also consider possible donation to Mexican drug cartel.

Call: Eric Holder, US Attorney General; US Justice Department, 202-514-2000.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 6:57:12 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: KeyLargo

Do we pay this clown to be a Campaigner In Chief, or to be the boss of the Executive Branch of our Fed Gov? Spend a little time reading the requests for security help from your Ambassadors around the globe, and park AF One for a while!!!


8 posted on 02/04/2013 7:01:57 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: KeyLargo

It’s going to be dip $hit against the NRA and us.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 7:08:02 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Cheerio

Be positive, every trip near the Rockies is another chance for him to get onto Mt. Rushmore, at 650MPH.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 7:21:27 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Rappini

War On Women, it sucks when they are armed.
Posted on February 4, 2013 by Miguel

http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/


11 posted on 02/04/2013 7:22:28 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: toolman1401

New Mexico Family Gun Shop Owners Get New Trial
posted on February 4, 2013 by Giacomo

Last summer, I told you about the Reese family in Deming, New Mexico. Rick and Terri Reese, along with their two sons Ryin and Remington ran a gun shop. They kept meticulous records and ran their successful business according to the letter of the law. Then suddenly, they found themselves charged with violating federal gun trafficking laws. They were arrested and the feds seized the gun shop along with its $2 million worth of inventory which included all of the guns, gun records and nearly two millions rounds of ammunition. The feds also seized all of the family’s personal possessions, including their home, cars, bank accounts, jewelry, gold and coin collections all totaling about half a million dollars.

More than six months after being jailed, Terri Reese was finally allowed to post bail in March of 2012 and get out of jail, but her husband and two sons were denied the same opportunity because the prosecution claimed they were dangerous and posed a flight risk. The father and sons were held over pending their trials.

In July 2012, son Remington was acquitted of all charges and set free. Rick and Terri were each found guilty of one count of lying on firearms purchase forms. Son Ryin was found guilty on two counts of lying on federal purchase forms. All members of family were acquitted on the other 24 charges that had been brought against them.

Even though the trial was last July, Rick and Ryin Reese remain in jail pending their sentence hearing which has never taken place. All toll, the father and son have spent nearly a year and half in jail.

Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/9309/new-mexico-family-gun-shop-owners-get-new-trial/#ixzz2JwaGZvJa


12 posted on 02/04/2013 7:25:35 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: IbJensen

I was born and raised there. To the point now where I am embarassed to say that anymore. Bring the whole dam state down and start over.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 8:34:32 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: KeyLargo

http://www.gocra-mn.org/news/2013/02/hf0237-an-assault-on-due-process-and-privacy/

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/members.asp?id=10513

This bill subsequently attacks your privacy, establishes de-facto gun registration, as well as weakens the MN permit to carry.

When applying for your permit to purchase, police officers can extend the processing time for up to 30 days (instead of the current 7 days) under the guise of “verifying your identity”.

Currently, your permit to carry acts as a 5 year “permit to purchase” for the transfer of firearms. If this bill becomes law, you will need to get a permit to purchase every 12 months, on top of your permit to carry. This is an unnecessary redundancy, as MN sheriffs must check the validity of your carry permit annually.

This bill intends to allow the government to know who, what, where, and when you transfer a firearm to another party by requiring you to process all transfers through a FFL federal dealer. The government will keep track of all sales, transfers, loans, and gifts outside of immediate family.
Not only does this bill mandate that you involve a 3rd party in your private transaction, the government will have a say in the fees that are charged in a private transaction.

Planning on loaning your buddy your gun for deer opener? You’ll need to go to an FFL for loans over 24 hours.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 11:37:59 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: KeyLargo

HF0244 – Blame the Victim
Short Description:
Firearm loss or theft false report crime established, crime of transferring firearms to an ineligible person expanded, and a person convicted of these crimes made ineligible to possess a firearm.
This bill would shift the blame from the criminal to the victim of a gun theft, and would actually make people less likely to report a theft.
LOSE YOUR GUN, LOSE YOUR RIGHTS:
Anyone that has misplaced, lost, or had a gun stolen knows how scary that is.
This bill would criminalize those who “falsely” report their guns lost or stolen, slapping them with a gross misdemeanor charge, and the loss of their right to own a firearm.
This bill would have the opposite effect from the one intended. People would be reluctant to report their firearms lost or stolen, when they may have just been misplaced, because they don’t want to risk being charged with filing a false report.
This means legitimately stolen guns could go unreported for a longer period of time, as law-abiding gun owners don’t want to lose their rights.
BLAMES YOU FOR CRIMINAL’S ACTIONS:
This bill also increases the liability on law abiding citizens and businesses who sell their firearms.
Under current law, it is a crime to sell a firearm to someone you know is ineligible.
This bill seeks to lower the threshold to “has reason to believe” the buyer is ineligible or intends to commit a crime. This is an incredibly subjective standard which can and will be used to blame people who made a sale in good faith.
We cannot change the law to place the blame on victims of crime and innocent citizens.

http://www.gocra-mn.org/news/2013/02/hf238239-turning-guardians-into-felons/


15 posted on 02/04/2013 11:45:05 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: KeyLargo
HF0240 – “Prove You’re Sane” and Rights Removed. HF0240 – Rep. Schoen Short Description: Mental health screening improved for persons applying for firearm permits. This bill gives Police and Sheriffs additional power, with no accountability when processing your permit to carry, or permit to purchase, and weakens your ability to appeal a denial. Also, one thing they are hoping you won’t notice, it denies non-residents the right to carry in Minnesota.

PROVE YOU’RE SANE: Current MN law allows a Sheriff or Police chief to deny your permit application if he believes “that there exists a substantial likelihood that the applicant is a danger to self, or the public. This bill lowers the threshold required for a Sheriff or Police Chief to deny the permit from “substantial likelihood” to “likelihood”. While that seems like a minor adjustment, it can pose significant problems for someone attempting to appeal a wrongful denial. What is far more shocking, this bill will give law enforcement the ability to require you to obtain a letter from a state licensed primary care physician or state certified mental health professional before they process your application. Amazingly, after this embarrassing harassment, once you’ve provided the letter they are under no obligation to take it into consideration. Currently, if you are wrongfully denied, you can appeal the decision to the district court. However, this bill significantly lowers your ability to successfully appeal an improper denial by lowering the threshold of the evidence required to deny your rights. Currently, if there is “clear and convincing evidence” that you pose a danger to self or others, your permit appeal can be denied. This bill seeks to significantly lower the threshold to “a preponderance of the evidence”. This means that if in the eyes of the court there is a slight chance you pose a danger to self or others, your appeal can be denied, sticking you with legal fees and a loss of your rights.

NON RESIDENTS RIGHTS DENIED: In order to carry in Minnesota, even non-residents have to take a carry class from a state-approved instructor, and follow the EXACT same process as a resident. Even though these people have been going through the exact same class, have needed to meet the exact same criteria, and go through the exact same application process, this bill assaults the rights of people who work in, visit, and pass through Minnesota with absolutely no cause. Contact the members of the committee below, and show up on the 5th, 6th, and 7th. Make it clear that law-abiding citizens will not stand for assaults on our rights, and legislation that will do nothing to prevent criminals from getting firearms.

House Public Safety Committee: Representative Michael Paymar (DFL) – Chairman 651-296-4199 E-mail: rep.michael.paymar@house.mn

Representative Paul Rosenthal (DFL) – Vice Chairman 651-296-7803 E-mail: rep.paul.rosenthal@house.mn

Representative Tony Cornish (R) – Republican Lead 651-296-4240 E-mail: rep.tony.cornish@house.mn

Representative Debra Hilstrom (DFL) 651-296-3709 E-mail: rep.debra.hilstrom@house.mn

Representative Brian Johnson (R) 651-296-4346 E-mail: rep.brian.johnson@house.mn

Representative Tim Kelly (R) 651-296-8635 E-mail: rep.tim.kelly@house.mn

Representative Andrea Kieffer (R) 651-296-1147 E-mail: rep.andrea.kieffer@house.mn

Representative John Lesch (DFL) 651-296-4224 E-mail: rep.john.lesch@house.mn

Representative Kathy Lohmer (R) 651-296-4244 E-mail: rep.kathy.lohmer@house.mn

Representative Joe Mullery (DFL) 651-296-4262 E-mail: rep.joe.mullery@house.mn

Representative Jim Newberger (R) 651-296-2451 E-mail: rep.jim.newberger@house.mn

Representative Shannon Savick (DFL) 651-296-8216 E-mail: rep.shannon.savick@house.mn

Representative Dan Schoen (DFL) 651-296-4342 E-mail: rep.dan.schoen@house.mn

Representative Steve Simon (DFL) 651-296-9889 E-mail: rep.steve.simon@house.mn

Representative Erik Simonson (DFL) 651-296-4246 E-mail: rep.erik.simonson@house.mn

Representative Linda Slocum (DFL) 651-296-7158 E-mail: rep.linda.slocum@house.mn

Representative Mark Uglem (R) 651-296-5513 E-mail: rep.mark.uglem@house.mn

Representative John Ward (DFL) 651-296-4333 E-mail: rep.john.ward@house.mn

16 posted on 02/04/2013 11:52:08 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: KeyLargo

This maroon is still campaigning. Oy.


17 posted on 02/04/2013 4:39:11 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

This is to inform everyone of the following Anti 2nd Amendment Bills that are going to be introduced in the Minnesota house. If any of these bills are passed they will ultimately affect every law abiding, gun owner in Minnesota.

If you own a semi-automatic firearm that can hold more than 7 rounds you will

1. Have to submit to another background check.
2. Register the firearm.
3. Safely and securely store the firearm.
4. Agree to allow the police to inspect the storage of the firearm.
5. Annually renew the registration, subject to the completion of a new background check.
6. Surrender any assault weapon you inherit or modify the weapon to render it inoperable.

HF 241 Assault weapons; crime established for manufacturing, transferring, or possessing assault weapons; existing assault weapon disposal or registration provided for; terms defined; data classified; language clarified; and penalties provided.
http://wdoc.house.leg.state.mn.us/leg/LS88/HF0241.0.pdf

To view bills 238-244
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/status_result.php?body=House&search=basic&session=0882013&location=House&bill=238-244&bill_type=bill&rev_number=&submit_bill=GO&keyword_type=all&keyword=&titleword=

For more information
https://www.change.org/petitions/mn-gun-owners-vote-no-on-hf241-mn-assault-weapons-ban

Who Represents me?
http://www.gis.leg.mn/OpenLayers/districts/

MN Governor Mark Dayton
http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/


18 posted on 02/04/2013 6:15:48 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SgtHooper

When the clueless, leftist phony who made a lousy comedian, Al Franken, was elected to the senate by Minnesotans I knew the state was beyond redemption.


19 posted on 02/05/2013 4:39:16 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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