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Don't Bet Against Hillary Clinton in 2016
NationalJournal ^ | February 4, 2013 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 02/04/2013 7:30:41 AM PST by lbryce


"Oh, Steve!" Hillary Rodham Clinton protested when "60 Minutes" reporter Steve Kroft asked about her presidential ambitions

Cleaning out my notebook from the weekend, I came across this quote from a long-time associate of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton discussing the 2016 presidential race: "There is no false equivalency about her pros and cons."

Her point is that while journalists falsely equate GOP and Democratic wrongdoing, there is a true equivalency when Clinton weighs the merits of seeking the presidency. Before we get to the lists, a caveat: Clinton honestly and understandably has not decided whether to run, sources close to her agree. She is tired. She is torn. And she is smart enough to know that the decision can (and should) wait.

And now, because we can't help ourselves, here is Clinton's list of pros and cons about running in 2016:

PROS

1. Big vacuum: Sure, Joe Biden is an able and successful vice president but his approval rating is nowhere near as high as Clinton's, and he is not her equal inside the party. Clinton could clear the field. Biden could not.

2. Opportunity to change: Clinton is a policy wonk who has always hungered to make a difference. Agree with her policies or not, it's hard to dispute that she is motivated by the desire to make lives better, and there is no better perch to do that than the presidency.

3. History: Her decades-long advocacy for women's rights would be culminated with glass ceiling-shattering presidency.

4. Clinton legacy: Her election would be viewed an extension of the Clinton brand as much as Obama's, cementing a progressive agenda that includes her signature issue: universal access to health care.

5. Inertia: In politics, momentum often drives decisions. If Clinton doesn't proactively end speculation with a Sherman-esque statement in early 2015, the train might get moving too fast for her to stop.

CONS

1. Health. Clinton, 65, has always been healthy but her grueling job has taken a toll. Steve Kroft of "60 Minutes" asked Clinton about her health in the interview that aired Sunday night. "Oh, it's great. It's great," she said. "Now, you know, I still have some lingering effects from falling on my head and having the blood clot. But, you know, the doctors tell me that that will all recede. And so thankfully I'm, you know, looking forward to being at full speed."

2. Other interests. Clinton may enjoy life outside politics as she peruses philanthropic and advocacy interests. A wild card: The U.S. Supreme Court. Should a vacancy emerge and the job be offered (a long shot at her age), Clinton's associates wouldn't be surprised to see her take it. The court has always seemed a better fit for her disposition than raw politics.

3. Above politics. Clinton doesn't suffer fools or petty politics well. Her bitter 2008 campaign against Obama might have been ugly enough to last a lifetime.

4. Her legacy. First lady. U.S. senator. Secretary of State. That is quite a resume, and it includes the fact that, even in defeat, she broke ground in 2008. Failure in 2016 might tarnish her legacy.

5. Bill Clinton. He is a brilliant politician and successful two-term president who wants his wife to win. But he didn't serve her well as a political spouse in 2008. Why would 2016 be any different?


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016demprimary; bill; hillary; hillary2016
You might say this is the absolute earliest ever a presidential campaign started off and running for the following upcoming election (in 2016). So the polls have Hillary and Christie neck and neck. I say, What's the difference, Hillary? Someone else is gonna come out of nowhere and once again ruin your party.

Guess what,Hillary? It's your party and you'll cry even if you don't want to. BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

1 posted on 02/04/2013 7:30:47 AM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

I think some people watch Friday the 13th movies too much. Hillary isn’t Freddie. She’s done. It will be very obvious in four years.


2 posted on 02/04/2013 7:36:42 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: lbryce

The comments about Biden are interesting. He’s bozo the clown without makeup. This would have to be a country of fools (even worse than we already are) to put that man even in the running. He’s comic relief. Nothing more.

Then again, the ignorance and stupidity of our electorate never ceases to amaze me. Eventually we may be like those ridiculous third world countries that march around carrying large posters of the face of their murdering despot.


3 posted on 02/04/2013 7:39:01 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: lbryce

Anybody remember the dustup over Michele Bachmann’s migraines and how it should disqualify her to be president.

Hillary is clearly brain damaged.


4 posted on 02/04/2013 7:40:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lbryce

The author must really like her. Even the “cons” are personal “pros”.


5 posted on 02/04/2013 7:40:55 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: lbryce
In a political party thats gone full-tilt leftwing wacko I guess its too much to expect a moderate democrat to challange her.

Our fate is in the hands of several million stupid Americans who haven't yet been able to grasp how badly leftwing leaders serve their personal interests. It'll all hinge on how high their pain threshhold is between now and then.

6 posted on 02/04/2013 7:41:27 AM PST by skeeter
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To: lbryce

I would never bet against Hillary in 2016. If she wants the Presidency, she’ll win by a huge margin. A majority of Americans, for some reason, just think she’s awesome. I think she’s ****ing evil.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 7:42:41 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: ScottinVA

I agree with you completely. I think it’s all hers for the asking.


8 posted on 02/04/2013 7:48:07 AM PST by surrey
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To: lbryce

She’s a snake.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 7:49:54 AM PST by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: lbryce

That is the same thing they were saying in 2008 when she was on her way to her coronation.

How’d that turn out?

Some younger charismatic will likely come forward to challenge.

Hillary will be showing her age in another 4 years, and it won’t be pretty.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 7:51:34 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: cuban leaf

If you’re going to throw out movie references, please make sure they’re accurate. Freddie—Nightmare on Elm Street. Jason-Friday the 13th. :)


11 posted on 02/04/2013 7:54:46 AM PST by skinndogNN
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To: ScottinVA

“I think she’s ****ing evil.”

I don’t think she shares a bed with Slick any more.


12 posted on 02/04/2013 7:55:04 AM PST by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: skinndogNN

If you’re going to throw out movie references, please make sure they’re accurate. Freddie—Nightmare on Elm Street. Jason-Friday the 13th. :)


Heh... I am embarassed. I admit I’ve never seen any of them but only heard about them.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 8:04:06 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Salamander

That she doesn’t share a bed with Slick anymore is antedeluvian.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 8:05:44 AM PST by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheiner at Trinity NM)
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To: TomGuy
Some younger charismatic will likely come forward to challenge.

If so, I anticipate it'll be a hispanic. The current mayor of San Antonio comes to mind.

15 posted on 02/04/2013 8:06:15 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: skinndogNN

16 posted on 02/04/2013 8:09:35 AM PST by TomGuy
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17 posted on 02/04/2013 8:38:37 AM PST by RedMDer (HEY LIBS! GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS AVAILABLE NOW. I DARE YA!)
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To: lbryce

Hillary used as a distraction for the next 4 years


18 posted on 02/04/2013 8:39:09 AM PST by molson209
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To: lbryce

Add to the list that she’s a very capable actor. She played herself in the movie Misery with James Caan.


19 posted on 02/04/2013 8:39:41 AM PST by lurk
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To: cuban leaf
He’s bozo the clown without makeup. This would have to be a country of fools (even worse than we already are) to put that man even in the running. He’s comic relief. Nothing more.

You must be talking about the current pResident. Right?

20 posted on 02/04/2013 8:39:41 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: lbryce
I don't mean to be rude to people with downs syndrome, but just look at her with them glasses she wears nowadays. I'm just saying..
21 posted on 02/04/2013 8:41:04 AM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: lbryce

If you have a D after your name,do you have to be alive to
become President?


22 posted on 02/04/2013 8:51:39 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: unixfox

He’s bad. Very bad. Biden’s worse. And he’s been there a lot longer.


23 posted on 02/04/2013 8:52:05 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ScottinVA; lbryce
The Three Sista's

The most admired woman in America, for 17 years,
http://www.christianpost.com/news/obama-hillary-clinton-top-gallups-most-admired-list-of-2012-87441/

Clinton-Rice 2016!
(Black n Blacker(Rice = Black/Jamaican

24 posted on 02/04/2013 8:54:07 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: lbryce

She can’t pass the physical, but that doesn’t mean anything to Democrat voters. In their eyes, the worst that could happen is she’d have a stroke and die in office, but another liberal would take her place.


25 posted on 02/04/2013 8:57:05 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

I mean, how physically fit do you have to be to tell your minions to hand out $50,000 to people who don’t know the front end of a pig from the rear end of a pig?


26 posted on 02/04/2013 8:59:10 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: lbryce

Unfit to occupy anything more important that a bar stool.


27 posted on 02/04/2013 9:04:25 AM PST by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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To: lbryce

She and Christie can teeter-totter instead of debate, like real heavyweights.


28 posted on 02/04/2013 9:05:00 AM PST by pallis
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To: ScottinVA
I would never bet against Hillary in 2016. If she wants the Presidency, she’ll win by a huge margin. A majority of Americans, for some reason, just think she’s awesome. I think she’s ****ing evil.

I'll bet that she wins it. How can anyone bet against a party of handouts to 50%& the TOTAl fraud by the (D)s in which the (R)s ,by law, can not refute.

29 posted on 02/04/2013 10:17:51 AM PST by Digger
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To: cuban leaf

I will bet against her —Once Obama is tarnished (and he will be) anyone linked to his corrupt rule will be trashed—that will include Hillary. She is done. Once she started wearing the glasses—it was over. She has proven too loyal to the ONE. Time to write the book and give talks on College campuses. Maybe Her daughter might do something?


30 posted on 02/04/2013 10:41:21 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Once she started wearing the glasses—it was over.


Interesting you said that, because that summarizes exactly what did it for me.


31 posted on 02/04/2013 10:57:09 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: lbryce

Obama is setting off my gaydar in that picture.

What a pansy.


32 posted on 02/04/2013 5:35:54 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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