Experts find remains of England's King Richard III

Phys.Org ^ | 02-04-2013 | Jill Lawless

[libstripper]

Isn’t that picture from a modern remake of Richard III?

[bunkerhill7]

They had a tailgate party over his body in the parking lot as soon as he was cold.

[444Flyer]

Hospital for Over Acting "...This is the Richard the III Ward"

[dsutah]

Or someone who wanted Richard on the throne did it! Still, like you said, why didn’t he make some attempt to prove he didn’t do it? He was their uncle; wouldn’t he want to find out why and how they disappeared? Why wouldn’t he want to find out who killed them once they found out they’d been killed?

If Richard took over as king when his brother died, he would’ve acted as regent, wouldn’t he? But he would’ve had them present at state functions so the people could see them, after the older one was coronated, wouldn’t he? he would’ve been advising him and educating him in ruling the kingdom as he grew! If he was king for at least 2 years before losing to Henry, people would wonder why the didn’t see the princes anymore!

If Henry did it, where were they in those 2 years of Richard’s reign, in the tower? Possibly. But someone would’ve seen them, unless they were sworn to secrecy? Lastly, Henry married their sister, Elizabeth; why would he want to kill his wife’s brothers? Old Henry might have been a turd, but a killer?

For years after the boys disappearance and Richard’s death, a few people claiming to be one of the 2 boys surfaced.(example: Tzar Nickolas’s children, Louis XV1’s son)King Henry V11’s queen actually thought and hoped at least one of them was her one of her long-lost brothers who may have survived.She was overjoyed! Unfortunately, there was no proof, and the poor woman’s hopes were squashed!

[libstripper]

I've just done a little reading on how Richard III became king. Edward IV was the father of the two princes, Edward V and Richard of York. Richard III was Edward IV’s brother, meaning Edward V and Richard of York both had precedence over him as heirs to Edward IV.

Richard III was appointed Protector and gained custody of Edward V and Richard of York, both of whom he put in the Tower, from whence they never emerged alive. Then he had parliament declare both bastards on the allegation that Edward IV had not properly married their mother. That left the road to the throne open to Richard, who was crowned on July 6, 1483.

Richard III reigned for a little more than two years, until August 22, 1485, when he was killed at the battle of Bosworth Field. During that entire time he had sole custody of the deposed princes, neither of whom was heard from or seen during that entire time, despite constant demands for their production and growing, highly destructive, rumors that Richard had them murdered. Indeed, the developing consensus that he had them murdered was one of the main things that destroyed his legitimacy, enabling Henry VII to overthrow him. Hence, the only logical thing for him to have done, had he been innocent of their deaths, would have been either to produce them both alive, or to produce their bodies with an adequate, legitimate explanation of why they had died. He did neither, leading to the logical conclusion that had them killed and had their bodies disposed of. I've seen no historical evidence to indicate either that the princes were alive after August 22, 1485 or that Henry VII had access to their persons before that date which would have enabled him to kill them or have them killed. Inevitably, that leaves Richard as the murderer.

[Eva]

Thanks for the refresher course. From looking at the skull, it looks like Richard III had a pronagthic jaw, where the lower teeth close outside the upper teeth, better known as an under bite. The more recent royals seem to have a receding lower jaw, and possibly an overbite.

Just an observation.

[mikrofon]

Verily, but something was also rottin’ in the state of England...

[supremedoctrine]

EVERYTIME I see her I can’t help but think of the tabloid
expose of Prince Charles before their marriage saying that
fantasized about being “her tampon”. YUK. WHAT A FALL from Diana.

[supremedoctrine]

EVERYTIME I see her I can’t help but think of the tabloid
expose of Prince Charles before their marriage saying that
fantasized about being “her tampon”. YUK. WHAT A FALL from Diana.

[lqcincinnatus]

I doubt Shakespeare was right. Henry paid him to defame Richard.

[SunkenCiv]

Experts find remains of England’s King Richard III
Associated Press | Feb 4, 2013 11:13 AM (ET) | By JILL LAWLESS
Posted on 02/04/2013 9:16:46 AM PST by DJ MacWoW
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2985169/posts

Skeleton found in parking lot identified as that of England’s King Richard III, experts say
Fox News | February 04, 2013 | Fox News
Posted on 02/04/2013 10:09:11 AM PST by AngieGal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2985185/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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Thanks Red Badger, DJ MacWoW, and colorado tanker. I'd post a link to the Steely Dan song "Kings", but that would be the wrong King Richard. :') Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution. To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.

[Beowulf9]

Just read this on Twitter, by Fred Thompson:

“Skeleton found under parking lot in England confirmed as King Richard III. Weird. In US, our politicians just get thrown under a bus.”