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Rove Declares War on Tea Party
Coyboy Byte ^ | February 4, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 02/04/2013 10:20:44 AM PST by yoe

The battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party has begun. On one side is the Tea Party. On the other side stand Karl Rove and his establishment team, posing as tacticians while quietly undermining conservatism.

Yesterday, the New York Times reported that the “biggest donors in the Republican Party” have joined forces with Karl Rove and Steven J. Law, president of American Crossroads, to create the Conservative Victory Project. The Times reports that this new group will dedicate itself to “recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts who Republican leaders worry could complicate the party’s effort to win control of the Senate.” The group points to candidates like Christine O’Donnell in Delaware and Richard Mourdock in Indiana as examples of Tea Party primary picks going sideways in major Senatorial battles.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americancrossroads; karlrove; rove4amnesty; roveamnestypimp; sayno2rinos; teaparty; tokyorove
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Rove and Law should not dismiss the Tea Party so quickly...Rove did not come across as "the brilliant political architect" after this last election...he steered a lot of people in the wrong direction. And the Tea Party needs to stop trying to over-reach...they need to stand firm on the spending and smaller government. Both groups should work together starting now...IMHO. Thoughts?
1 posted on 02/04/2013 10:20:48 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Shut up Karl.


2 posted on 02/04/2013 10:21:34 AM PST by DManA
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To: yoe

Rove you magnificent doooooshbag


3 posted on 02/04/2013 10:22:47 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: DManA

Just incredible . . . and since he firmly ensconced at FOX News (ala Hannity), he get all kinds of credibility.

Pathetic.

We have to fight. We have no television media to fight with, though.


4 posted on 02/04/2013 10:24:01 AM PST by laweeks
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To: yoe

You are assuming both sides have common objectives. The Tea Party does need to focus on spending and smaller government. Neither Karl Rove nor the DCRNC care about those issues. Not sure there is common ground. Winning elections would seem to be where our goals intersect, but I am not sure the DCRNC’s primary goal is winning elections in the same manner we define winning. They want to win enough seats to get committee chairs. No policy goals...just to get their slice of the graft.


5 posted on 02/04/2013 10:24:40 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: laweeks

A fat southern white man lecturing us that the GOP needs a new image.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 10:27:05 AM PST by DManA
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To: yoe

Well you’re right about Rove, but it’s bullshit to call Todd Akin, a six term incumbent, as a tea party outisder. He’s just dumb. Mourdock is legit a tea party mistake, but the establishment makes many more mistakes.

Here is how we fight BACK at ROVE: been in the works for months:
www.gone2012book.com


7 posted on 02/04/2013 10:27:21 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: yoe
Emperor Rove would have ignored Yamamoto as well.

"In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success."

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."

"I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

8 posted on 02/04/2013 10:28:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

And that is an excellent point, this is a new movement, we are going to make mistakes, Akin and Mourdock are examples.
But we are also doing thing right-the 2010 elections showed that.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 10:31:38 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: yoe

Rove you ignorant slut.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 10:31:59 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: DManA
A fat southern white man lecturing us that the GOP needs a new image.

Every time I hear Hannity call the idiot "the architect," I get sick to my stomach. Where this fat fool's credibility comes from is beyond me.

Somehow, we gotta' hoist up Palin, Santorum, Rubio, and other conservatives to a very high level, and it won't be easy.

11 posted on 02/04/2013 10:33:39 AM PST by laweeks
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To: yoe

Karl Rove is such political poison that you have to wonder if he is a Soros Stooge.

If his liberal RINO candidates win primaries, they will lose general elections as the Dems tie them to Bush/Rove.

Tea Party just needs to keep active and keep pushing.


12 posted on 02/04/2013 10:33:58 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: yoe

Greaseball was never a genius, except at self promotion. A toady on stilts, able to turn golden opportunities into tinny marginal wins, or leaden defeats. More Arsonist than Architect.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 10:35:15 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Maine Mariner

Without a doubt, the tea party, or base or conservative or Reagan Republicans, whatever you want to call them, are the only future the GOP has. The establishment and Rove are jurassic.

But we need to remember our roots? What were they? They were anti government roots, named by Rick Santelli in response to mortgage payers bailing out mortgage dead beats, and mostly inspired by Obama Care. A lot more has been added around the edges, but anti big government is the foundation.

Angle was a mistake, as was Mourdock. O Donnell didn’t matter, because Delaware was going to be a disater regardless. Meanwhile, Cruz, Johnson, Walker, Rubio (at the time), Rand Paul, West, many other congressmen, hundreds of state legislators, are amazing successes.

And FTR, too many tea party and too many Freepers fell for the bullsh-t that Akin was one of us. He was not. The establishment hated him, but they happened to be right on that count. Two great people were defeated by Akin thanks to votes from Democrats ,and unthinking tea partiers.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 10:37:33 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Akin and Murdoch were not the big mistakes. The biggest Tea Party mistake is tying to Marco Rubio.....who is really a big govt statist


15 posted on 02/04/2013 10:37:49 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: yoe

Well what has the score been so far ? Whenever the Establishment is involved in an election, the election is lost. Instead it is time for war against the Establishment and run them out !


16 posted on 02/04/2013 10:38:49 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: SeminoleCounty

“Tea Party just needs to keep active and keep pushing.”

So true. Let the Geriatric Old Plotters rot in place. Those who would increase liberty and shrink government need to quit feeding either the Menshevik or the Bolshevik party.


17 posted on 02/04/2013 10:40:35 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: DManA

Tokyo Rove has been undermining conservatism for years. At least now he won’t be spouting it on Fox News 24/7.


18 posted on 02/04/2013 10:42:03 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: yoe

Karl Rove and Steven J. Law: absolute proof that it is utterly impossible to pick up a turd by the clean end.


19 posted on 02/04/2013 10:42:27 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: SeminoleCounty

That’s nonsense, and Rove will look like a genius thanks to opinons like that. With Rubio, you have to measure him against Charlie Crist, not against perfection, or not against Reagan. HE REMOVED CHARLIE CRIST and encouraged a nation full of tea party candidates by doing so. Yes, he’s problematic now, but Jesus is not running for Senate from Florida.

Akin and Mourdock are silly, careless, inarticulate buffoons. So what if they believe the right things? My son believes the right things, but he’s not ready for the Senate yet. This lowest common denominator crap has GOT TO STOP or Rove will never be proven wrong. And 99% of the time he is.


20 posted on 02/04/2013 10:42:53 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: SeminoleCounty
Karl Rove, indeed, is not a Conservative. Almost as significant, however, is the fact that he is greatly over-rated as a political pundit. His proposed stands on key issues are not only a betrayal of our heritage & basic Constitutional concepts; they are totally misguided from a pragmatic standpoint!

For analysis of Rove, see "Dysron," Quack or Mole?; and/or Rove Revisited.

In the links that follow each essay, you will find other links that discuss various aspects of Rove's serious damage to American interests & Republican prospects.

William Flax

21 posted on 02/04/2013 10:44:21 AM PST by Ohioan (o)
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To: Maine Mariner

You can’t learn anything from the Akin debacle, really. A certain amount of politicians will shoot themselves in the foot, or head in Akin’s case, no matter their ideology. Did we learn never to run establishment candidates from Mitt’s botched 47% logic, or put establishment Pubs in power positions after Trent Lott’s Strom Thurmond comment?


22 posted on 02/04/2013 10:47:04 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: yoe

And the sameWisconsin. that reaffirmed Scott Walker picked the madison radical invert Tammy Baldwin over “seasoned” professional Tommy Thompson. Stuff happens.


23 posted on 02/04/2013 10:47:36 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: yoe

Aye mate, Rove and these other blind beltway, RINO fools need to wake up!

Be Ever Vigilant!


24 posted on 02/04/2013 10:52:00 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: yoe

I call the GOP the Judenrat for the MarxoFascists for a reason. This is the evidence.

They know where the power is going to be, and they will do anything to share in it.


25 posted on 02/04/2013 10:52:10 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Okay, (another view)

In my view, the Tea Party is that part of the electorate who still think our Constitution should be followed; that the Federal Government is way too big and that spending has got to be controlled. And that is where they should stop for now. Rove's ideas are all pure politics which encompasses the enormous Federal Patchwork Quilt that needs restitching badly i.e., reduced by half. I think Judge Andrew P. Napolitano is the man to bring both sides together under one tent as it were.

26 posted on 02/04/2013 10:53:42 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Rove’s ideas are more dangerous than simply being purely political, though that is part of it.

Napolitano is dangerously isolationist, and not the guy to bring both sides together IMHO


27 posted on 02/04/2013 10:55:53 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: yoe

Kick his ass and fight. This was Senator Jim Demint’s organization. The PAC was very effective IMO for the money spent.

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28 posted on 02/04/2013 10:56:45 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: laweeks

“Where this fat fool’s credibility comes from is beyond me.”

He barely won against Gore and Kerry.

Two of the weakest candidates in recent history, after Romney of course.


29 posted on 02/04/2013 10:59:12 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: laweeks

Stop watching Hannity. He’s no Conservative.


30 posted on 02/04/2013 11:00:41 AM PST by rashley (Rashley)
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To: yoe

Should read “Rove continues war on Tea Party”.


31 posted on 02/04/2013 11:01:24 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: yoe

(DOA) Dead On Arrival). Rove is a representative of a group who are members of the New World Order determined to subvert the U.S. Constitution and the right of individual U.S. Citizens to govern themselves. They are confirmed enemies of the concept of the constitutional republic envisioned by the Founding Fathers and the people who sacrificed their life and limb to defend it. Rove and his backers havee no intention of allowing you to protect your constitutionall rights without their opposition and and determination to overthrow it.


32 posted on 02/04/2013 11:01:56 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: INVAR
I call the GOP the Judenrat for the MarxoFascists for a reason. This is the evidence.

No kidding. The GOP is already comatose and Rovian moderates are busy pinching the feeding tube as the democrats happily goose step their way to full on fascism completely unhindered.

The "moderates" are clearly aiding the democrats and its time they were exposed.
33 posted on 02/04/2013 11:02:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: yoe

(DOA) Dead On Arrival). Rove is a representative of a group who are members of the New World Order determined to subvert the U.S. Constitution and the right of individual U.S. Citizens to govern themselves. They are confirmed enemies of the concept of the constitutional republic envisioned by the Founding Fathers and the people who sacrificed their life and limb to defend it. Rove and his backers havee no intention of allowing you to protect your constitutionall rights without their opposition and and determination to overthrow it.


34 posted on 02/04/2013 11:02:17 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: yoe

In my view, the Tea Party is that part of the electorate who still think our Constitution should be followed; that the Federal Government is way too big and that spending has got to be controlled. And that is where they should stop for now.

___________________________

I agree with you on this.


35 posted on 02/04/2013 11:03:11 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Maine Mariner

Akin was hardly the Tea Party choice in the primary. I don’t think they had a dog in that fight.


36 posted on 02/04/2013 11:03:24 AM PST by steve8714 (We miss you, Stan.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Thanks for your input....


37 posted on 02/04/2013 11:04:50 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Rove doesn’t get it.

The problem is that his GOP is largerly indistinguishable from the Democrats. A lot of us, especially Conservatives, are sick as hell over it, and the TEA Party is what we align with.

Go ahead Karl fight the TEA Party, but some of us TEA Partier’s will be more busy fighting the Democrats.


38 posted on 02/04/2013 11:05:35 AM PST by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: WhiskeyX

Perhaps the first time we are in accord, but I agree with you on this 100%.


39 posted on 02/04/2013 11:05:53 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Tublecane

I agree with you, a certain number of politicians will shoot themselves in the foot, but we need to remember that when a conservative does it, the MSM will be all over the mistake 24/7. If a progressive makes that kind of mistake, he or she apologizes and we move on.
All I am saying and have said it before: conservatives need to be more careful about what they say in public.


40 posted on 02/04/2013 11:06:10 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: yoe

enjoyed your input, hope you buy the book!


41 posted on 02/04/2013 11:06:59 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Tublecane

There’s plenty to learn from the Akin debacle, which was about a lot more than just that one comment, though that one was beyond stupid.


42 posted on 02/04/2013 11:10:11 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: SeminoleCounty
"...Marco Rubio.....who is really a big govt statist"

Okay...an interesting view....make your case. Thanks

43 posted on 02/04/2013 11:12:22 AM PST by yoe
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To: Ohioan

This might be the top Rove analysis....

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/the_architect_has_no_clothes.html

or this...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/01/bushs_legacy_none_of_the_above_1.html

...and this soon

www.gone2012book.com


44 posted on 02/04/2013 11:12:38 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: yoe

People who go off the deep end like that are impossible to reason with. And they forget Reagan is dead and Jesus is not running.....


45 posted on 02/04/2013 11:13:41 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: yoe; ilgipper

Rove= The embodyment of the Einstein insanity equation. This Judas goat is where he is at because he serves well the hyphenated party known as the Demo-Coms .
While he should be exploiting that hypenation within the democrat party wants to furthur hypenate the party he alledges to belonng to.

Any body funding someone who allows his boss GWB to be portayed a loser then run the GOPES 2012 senate candidates campaign which wound up all losers should remember that equation..HE IS A LOSER !


46 posted on 02/04/2013 11:22:27 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname ......Ex Chi" mechanic")
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To: Karliner

Calling Rove a slut demeans working girls.


47 posted on 02/04/2013 11:22:34 AM PST by jim999
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To: Maine Mariner

But you must realize Rovian candidates are seen as conservative and equally embarrassable by the MSM. Or if not equally, since there are slight exceptions like McCain (when he isn’t running against Obama), the difference is marginal. Take the quintessentially Rovian Pub, Bush the Younger. While no particular soundbite sunk his career, the MSM was indefatigable in reporting his everyday “gaffes,” real and imagined. The media malpractice in introducing America to Sarah Palin was uniquely blatant. However, when you think back to the last guy in her position, Dick Cheney, if the treatment was different (stupid versus evil, respectively) still it wasn’t electorally propitious.

My point is there’s no reason to prefer Rove’s handpicked candidates to Tea Party types on the issue of conservative mouth-watching.


48 posted on 02/04/2013 11:25:41 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: jim999

Yes it does. And they actually deliver for their customers.


49 posted on 02/04/2013 11:26:54 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Tublecane

Excellent observations.

Tublecane was a cunning (excellent) worker in metals.
You are excellent student of these issues.


50 posted on 02/04/2013 11:29:18 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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