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We Take You Inside the Mind of a Sandy Hook Truther: CIA Conspiracy? 7 Shooters? An Attempt to
The Blaze ^ | 2/4/13 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 02/04/2013 10:29:07 AM PST by Nachum

The fever-pitch surrounding Sandy Hook Trutherism is simmering, however a small, yet vocal movement is still feverishly working to convince the greater society that the event either didn’t happen — or that key details are being hidden from the public. We already brought you a point-by-point debunk of the Sandy Hook conspiracy, tackling some of the most talked-about claims. But TheBlaze article was published on Jan. 23, and, since that time, Truthers have come out with new ideas and theories aimed at poking holes in the official narrative.

Among the more recent projects is “Sandy Hook — The Documentary,” a nearly-three hour YouTube movie produced by 31-year-old Mark Howitt, a Canadian who has a deep interest in studying the facets surrounding events like the Sandy Hook massacre. TheBlaze interviewed Howitt late last week to learn more about his motivations for creating the film and to better understand the Truthers’ curious stance.

HOW “SANDY HOOK — THE DOCUMENTARY” CAME TO FRUITION

Howitt, who runs a record label called Archaic North Entertainment, describes himself as a regular guy whose curiosities were sparked by inconsistencies he found in the official Sandy Hook story.

“Well, obviously the anomalies that were being reported by the media was what sparked my initial curiosity,” he told TheBlaze.

The novice filmmaker said that he didn’t start exploring the shooting until two or three weeks after it happened. By the time he began investigating, Howitt said the media had already settled comfortably into embracing the police narrative.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: cia; conspiracy; hook; newtown; sandy; sandyhook
Full title: We Take You Inside the Mind of a Sandy Hook Truther: CIA Conspiracy? 7 Shooters? An Attempt to ‘Disarm People and Attack the 2nd Amendment’?

Obama Dead Pool file update

1 posted on 02/04/2013 10:29:25 AM PST by Nachum
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To: All

Obama Dead Pool file (FYI)

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


2 posted on 02/04/2013 10:30:28 AM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

The Head Janitor was off that day.

Waiting for someone ..anyone..try to interview the Janitor who told the shooter to put his gun down.

He has no problem being part of a national story
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-29/a-faustian-bargain-for-state-pension-plans

Also why were the EMS told to stand down instead of going in and seeing if they could do anything.

Like after the shooter is dead why not go in and see if anyone can be resuscitated???

Guess it will take a lawsuit by one of the parents to get any details


3 posted on 02/04/2013 10:33:53 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Nachum

The Media has been lying to so many people for so long that soon everyone will belive ANYTHING.....

The Media has discredited themselves so thouroughly that a nut that is right 50% of the time now has a much truth average than the MSM, even if the remaining 50% is crazy insane stuff...

I don’t blame the kook for people beliving the kooks, i blame the MSM for discrediting themselves in the pursuit of embracing agendas...


4 posted on 02/04/2013 10:36:00 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Nachum

Here are a couple of more things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxa24q81rFE
9:55:46
in a hushed tone

end the life of adam?
Aim the rifle at him??
what the heck is he saying

and that is not something that has been edited into it

Also had 9:55:26 is the comment that there is a rifle and shotgun and nothing about handguns- As they are doing an interior search.

So, had they searched the trunk by 9:55 or was that inside the building. When do they actually talk about searching the car outside???

They do eventually get a search warrant for it.

Do the LEO say that because he saw the guns inside or the shells inside or what???

This doesn’t sound like they searched the car when they first got on the scene which is what Uncle Chip claims

To justify the 4 open doors and the black clothing tossed on the ground

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/nyregion/horrors-of-newtown-shooting-scene-are-slow-to-fade.html?pagewanted=all


5 posted on 02/04/2013 10:54:45 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Nachum
Truthers have come out with new ideas and theories aimed at poking holes in the official narrative.

What official narrative?

I had heard the report on the incident wasn't going to be done for six months. If that is the case, there is only the widely and wildly varied babblings of the MSM and no official report at all.

6 posted on 02/04/2013 10:58:06 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like when the Oklahoma City Bombings happened. There are those who feel the government was involved.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 11:00:41 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think it happened just as it appears. Lone gunman, mentally ill, usual scenario.

But if you are going to use an event to push an agenda, it is best to limit information in order to frame the event in a way that benefits you. If you release everything, you run into the problem of someone grabbing the agenda away with something that you thought was trivial (i.e. medicine).

The media and the government needs to keep the focus on the “assault weapon” that was used (yes it was used). That’s why no information is coming out. They don’t want people getting side-tracked.


8 posted on 02/04/2013 11:05:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Nachum

I think that it did happen, and that it was not some conspiracy by the government. From all I have read, it was Adam Lanza committing a heinous crime, all alone. There are many things that need to be answered. Of course, the big question is, why did he do it? This is one of those crimes that qualifies as unexplainable. No one could be upset enough to somehow think that killing kindergarten kids would make anything better. What were his motives? What drugs was he on? We need answers, not lectures about rifles and magazines.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 11:07:25 AM PST by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Nachum

The only thing we can be sure of is that no matter how low, vile, underhanded or unconstitutional an idea or act may be there is some powerful government official somewhere who thinks it is a good idea.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 11:15:55 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Iron Munro

“The only thing we can be sure of is that no matter how low, vile, underhanded or unconstitutional an idea or act may be there is some powerful government official somewhere who thinks it is a good idea.”

Case in Point

Operation Northwoods signed off on by Joint Chiefs

MK Ultra - most evidence of it destroyed by Richard Helms AKA “gentlemanly planner of assassinations”.


11 posted on 02/04/2013 11:21:19 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Sender

I try to be very cautious before “biting” into conspiracy theory bait. Its a good way to look rather foolish, rather quickly!

But that being said - there are some HUGE red flags and inconsistencies, even from the mouths of “officials” that really do not make sense.

Add in some incongruent eye-witness reports - and one has to really wonder what is going on -

Who was that being chased in the woods near the school?

What of the repeated statements of “three men passing classrooms while shooting was still underway?

What of the first responders and their statements vs. the statements made AFTER Federal officials arrived?

And again - EMTs not allowed to check on the possible wounded (how many may have died because they never received medical care?). Was Lanza such a thorough and efficient killer that every single person shot was killed instantly? Seriously? The military would like that efficiency!


12 posted on 02/04/2013 11:22:54 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: RummyChick

There it is, “some powerful government official somewhere who thinks it is a good idea.”


13 posted on 02/04/2013 11:32:20 AM PST by bgill
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To: Nachum

The Blaze say’s that it is a conspiracy theory for people to even think that Sandy Hook is “An Attempt to ‘Disarm People and Attack the 2nd Amendment”

So, that’s nuts, right? Only problem is, it is a fact ,that’s what many in the government are trying to do. They are using these dead kids to pass their agenda, which is gun control. “Never let a crisis go to waste”. And I guess that’s a quote me and all the other “vast right wing” conspirators are just making up too?


14 posted on 02/04/2013 11:34:15 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: freekitty

There was.a good book on this is called the third man.it was written by a female reporter that covered the story.


15 posted on 02/04/2013 11:35:50 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Sender

One question that bugs me.why was one of the victims donations page was set up 4 days before the

shooting?


16 posted on 02/04/2013 11:45:26 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: TheBattman
"Who was that being chased in the woods near the school?"

Was keeping close tabs that morning from the beginning - cops had gotten a man from the woods wearing camo but was yelling: "I didn't do it"!!

I don't know how that can be misconstrued for anything else - eyewitness reporter at the time it was happening - haven't heard a word on that since that morning - how is that?

17 posted on 02/04/2013 12:01:06 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: freekitty
A Noble Lie: Oklahoma City This documentary is absolutely compelling.
18 posted on 02/04/2013 12:17:31 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: longfellow

Thanks. Remember the commies are patient.


19 posted on 02/04/2013 12:37:48 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Thanks and very interesting.


20 posted on 02/04/2013 12:38:21 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Nachum

What I found EXTREMELY odd was how quickly the MSM left the community after the event. Usually they remain on-site until every single smidgen of exploitation is wrung from the story.

Then I read that the town is regarded as just a leeeeetle bit strange — i.e., a mecca for aging ‘60s hippie “gurus” and spaced-out sycophants.

My best guess is the MSM didn’t want to press its luck, for fear of accidentally interviewing some loon who might have upset the whole agenda applecart.


21 posted on 02/04/2013 12:39:34 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool
What I found EXTREMELY odd was how quickly the MSM left the community after the event

Indeed. One can add it to the list of oddities around Sandy Hook. The whole thing smells.

22 posted on 02/04/2013 12:48:48 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Sender

Don’t be so naive, Sender, Obama’s govt is capable of the most heinous crimes, including Sandy Hook


23 posted on 02/04/2013 12:56:12 PM PST by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: Nachum

This site is becoming unbearable b/c with every bad thing that happens, people jump into conspiracy mode and go full bore.

The kid was a pyscho. He went into a school and murdered the kids. He then shot himself. The left then jumped on the oppurtunity and are using it politically. End of story.


24 posted on 02/04/2013 1:01:20 PM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious")
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To: RummyChick; Nachum

Thanks for posting this you tube vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxa24q81rFE

I compared it to the timeline in the NH Register and found where the Register made a transcription error and left out the report of the broken glass at 9:36:35. Very careless of them. It could have saved a lot of conspiracy theorists a lot of time.

It appears that the report of the broken glass at the front door is not made by any police officer because it takes place at 9:36:35 which is too early for the police to have arrived on the scene as they were only dispatched at 9:36.

So then who was this person reporting the broken glass at 9:36:35??

Odds are it is the same “individual” who was still on the phone with police dispatch at 9:37:15 [NHRegister erroneously reports it at 9:36:15] that reports: “The individual I have on the phone is continuing to hear what he believes to be gun shots.”

So the guy who reports the broken glass [9:36:35] is still on the phone with dispatch 45 seconds later [9:37:15] telling them that he is continuing to hear gunshots in the building.

The first officer is on the scene a minute later [9:38:15], and as other officers arrive, they spot him along the side of the school, chase him up into the woods where they take him into custody. That was probably Chris Manfredonia and explains why they detained him shortly and then let him go.

Mystery solved —


25 posted on 02/04/2013 1:03:17 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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Why was one the potential suspects (the guy in camo pants who said, “I didn’t do it” to some of the parents) put in the front of a police car right after something so horrific has just gone down? Maybe his alibi checked out on the walk over? Why wouldn’t the camera pan over to the police car when the witness said he was “right over there”?.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 1:08:38 PM PST by Hayride
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To: longfellow

There were a lot of strange things on the day of the shooting. I was at work and trying to keep an eye on it as details came in. When at first they reported that kids had been shot, all sorts of random stuff was posted and broadcast, from another shooter in the woods to two guys going outside the building etc. Then they didn’t ID the shooter properly, accusing his brother, and saying that the Dad had been shot. There were reports of a van or a car with the back window blown out, and all sorts of weird police radio comments. What was strangest to me was that while the bodies were still warm and unseen, the gun control witch hunt had begun. I remember the police spokesman saying in his most outraged voice that every one of these GUNS will be investigated back to the workbench they were made on and who made each part. No mention of the shooter. Only the guns.


27 posted on 02/04/2013 1:16:44 PM PST by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: saleman

“The Blaze say’s that it is a conspiracy theory for people to even think that Sandy Hook is “An Attempt to ‘Disarm People and Attack the 2nd Amendment””

That’s just the headline, that is not what they are getting at. Here is a better quote:

“Of course, most Sandy Hook Truthers — and Howitt is no exception — root their theories in the notion that the government either manufactured the massacre or embellished the events in an effort to disarm Americans and to erode the Second Amendment.”

Just believing that the government would take advantage of a shooting to curtail the 2nd Amendment is not much of a conspiracy theory. It’s when you say that the government planned the massacre, or is creating some misrepresentation of it to further their agenda, that you lose the rest of us.


28 posted on 02/04/2013 1:18:26 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: longfellow
It wasn't, it's a bug in the google date-restricted search. Name me any recent event in the news, and I'll do the same kind of google search and show you that webpages were talking about it "before it happened".

Here's an example of webpages about Hurricane Sandy seeming to be dated weeks before that event happened:


29 posted on 02/04/2013 1:23:54 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Bullfrogg

I choose to believe that not even the Obama administration would actively commit such an abomination, even if it promoted their wildest dreams. Because the day that I start believing the government could or did do something like this, it’s a whole ‘nother ballgame. I hope and pray that they would not do something like this. They would certainly wait for an abomination to happen and then jump on it like vultures, which they did.


30 posted on 02/04/2013 1:33:18 PM PST by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Boogieman

“Of course, most Sandy Hook Truthers — and Howitt is no exception — root their theories in the notion that the government either manufactured the massacre or embellished the events in an effort to disarm Americans and to erode the Second Amendment”

They, meaning media, government spokespeople, Dianne Feinstein and many more certainly “embellished” what an AR-15 is, what it does, how it does it and have said that AR’s have no use other than killing people. Which is a blantant lie and is an effort to disarm Americans. And yes, I know you are a stickler for details, so I will state right now that the weapon used is not an “event”, but a big part of an event that “they” are indeed, embellishing.


31 posted on 02/04/2013 1:34:08 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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Sandy Hook Timeline [developing]

9:35 The first shots were fired followed by 911 calls to the police.
9:36 Police are dispatched to the school.
9:36:35 An individual reports broken glass window at the front door and doesn’t know why it’s broken.
9:37:15 Same individual still on the phone with dispatch reports shots continuing from inside the school.
9:37:45~ It would have been right about at this time that the 10 kids in Soto’s room made a break for it.
9:38:15 First officer arrived and reports that shooting had stopped. Other officers begin arriving on the scene.
9:39 Some officers chase the individual into the woods and take him into custody, while others search the vehicle and then begin entering the school.
9:40 Police find the bodies of the principal and psychologist.
9:40~ It would have been right about this time that the mothers would have spotted the kids running down the road to the firehouse as they drove up to the school.
9:42~ It would have been right about this time that the two mothers are at the front door of the school.
9:46 Shooter fires final shots and kills himself.


32 posted on 02/04/2013 1:54:37 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Nachum
“There’s a lot of evidence supporting that there was a group of people involved —

Where is this evidence??? There is none.

“It’s impossible to debunk this evidence. On the police scanner you can hear seven suspects discussed.”

Someone needs his hearing checked and doesn't know how to read a police scanner.

33 posted on 02/04/2013 2:26:16 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: saleman

I don’t think the article is talking about people objecting to AR-15s being called “assault weapons”, or hoplophobic fear mongering tactics. We see that in every news story involving guns, so it’s nothing unusual at this point.


34 posted on 02/04/2013 3:53:39 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I took the article as discussing “conspiracy theories”. One mentioned in the title, was that it was being used to limit our second amendment rights. Of that, I think there is no doubt.

So, if you point out that this “crisis” is being used to advance gun control, or as the title of the article say’s an attempt to limit our second amendment rights, then that is a nutty conspriacy theory? You don’t think the government is using this tragedy?

If someone said “the government had killers go in and kill 26 people in an elementary school in an effort to ban guns” then I would tell you that is nutty. But, as far as I can tell, and it’s been a couple of hours since I read the article, the guy producing the video is not saying this.

“Never let a crisis go to waste” Who said this?

“Vast right wing conspiracy” Who said this? And why? Did she actually believe this? I say no. Why? To deflect and/or obscure the truth. To belittle whoever would possibly question the company line. It’s actually pretty effective.


35 posted on 02/04/2013 6:46:07 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxa24q81rFE

At the 7:00 point on this tape at 10:30 an officer notifies dispatch that he is transporting/walking “4 students that had left the school previously” to the fire station. More than likely these are the students who had been at Rosen’s house.


36 posted on 02/04/2013 7:51:07 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Boogieman

Thanks, that clears that up. Now who was on the grassy knoll?


37 posted on 02/05/2013 8:39:43 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Nachum; All

The Blaze has not done a good job on Sandy Hook. Even this movie maker may already be behind the curve. My sense is that the official story is weak and will continue to fall apart.

People should do their own research. Spread the word.


38 posted on 02/06/2013 3:04:51 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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