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Ron Paul tweets about SEAL sniper's death: "He who lives by the sword dies by the sword"
Daily Caller ^ | Feb 4, 2013 | Vince Coglianese

Posted on 02/04/2013 11:21:16 AM PST by Innovative

Former congressman and libertarian icon Ron Paul tweeted a startling reaction to the death of SEAL sniper Chris Kyle on Monday:

Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense

Kyle and a friend were both killed by a veteran struggling with PTSD while working with him at a gun range on Saturday.

Kyle was the author of the best-selling "American Sniper," which detailed his time as a record-holding SEAL sniper.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Kentucky; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 911truther; chriskyle; cino; iraq; kentucky; libertarians; rino; ronpaul; seal; sniper; texas; waronterror
If this isn't the most disgusting statement I have ever heard, I don't know what is.

Chris Kyle is an American Hero, who saved countless lives by killing the worst of our enemies and for Ron Paul to make such a statement upon the tragic death of Chris Kyle is beyond shameful.

1 posted on 02/04/2013 11:21:28 AM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative
my comment is no comment with prejudice.
2 posted on 02/04/2013 11:23:15 AM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: Innovative

Fool. And from a former service member too. Fool.


3 posted on 02/04/2013 11:24:41 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Innovative
Interesting, since Paul once "lived by the sword" by taking paychecks from the US Air Force during Vietnam - all the while deliberately maintaining what veterans of the era would call a plum REMF position, guaranteed to keep him out of harm's way.

There is no more contemptible human being alive than Ron Paul.

He has no excuse.

4 posted on 02/04/2013 11:25:35 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Innovative

Startling? Not to me. I always knew Ron Paul was a complete idiot.


5 posted on 02/04/2013 11:25:44 AM PST by richmwill
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To: VaRepublican

How about...no comment with extreme prejudice.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 11:26:01 AM PST by Herodes
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To: VaRepublican

I would have some additional comments, but none of them are printable.

If I were a libertarian I would recant on the spot — it seems like being a libertarian means hating the USA and those who fight for us to keep our freedoms and not succumb to terrorists.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 11:27:07 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Absolutely. Someone once ask Carlos Hathcock how many kills he had expecting a bravado answer. He told them that he liked to think of how many he might have saved. I think Chris was cut from the same cloth.


8 posted on 02/04/2013 11:28:10 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Innovative

“The Paleocon far-right has melded with left-wing anarchists and absorbed their hatred for America and the military. It is not merely critical of the legal authorization for war, it is actively hostile to the American soldiers fighting it. Ron Paul has become John Kerry with the Taliban as the new Viet Cong.

Now that Ron Paul is no longer running for office, he feels free to vent this kind of ugliness without worrying about the political consequences. He’s free to be the ugly person he was in his newsletters.”

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/ron-paul-on-murder-of-hero-navy-seal-he-who-lives-by-the-sword-dies-by-the-sword/


9 posted on 02/04/2013 11:29:28 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Innovative

How can the “Ronbots” continue to defend this guy?


10 posted on 02/04/2013 11:29:54 AM PST by ryan71
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To: Innovative

Evil old b@stard!


11 posted on 02/04/2013 11:30:27 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Innovative

Ron Paul is an absolute disgrace. A disgusting human being.

Will have to remind the paultards of this when they show up spewing conspiracy theories about “globalists”, the Bilderberg Group and neo-cons (aka Jews).


12 posted on 02/04/2013 11:31:56 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Innovative

Not surprising that he will continue to be a classless A-hole to his own dying day.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 11:34:25 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: elcid1970

Paul has taken this to the nth degree. A useless old goat asshat that needs to disappear.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 11:38:30 AM PST by Pit1 (Obama is the bump in the road.)
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To: Innovative

THIS kind of stuff is exactly why he never had a chance. He would say some things that made a little sense but then he would pop off with sh!t like this. That’s why so many people (like me) would never even consider voting for him. When it comes to war or anything military he’s a worthless p*ssy. Not just a pacifist but a Disrespectful pacifist. A man who can be counted on to ridicule any suggestion of standing up to international bullies.
In other words, useless.


15 posted on 02/04/2013 11:41:55 AM PST by servo1969
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To: CrazyIvan

Below is from today’s Patriot Post..

“Chris Kyle, RIP

Former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, a Patriot from Texas and author of the outstanding book, “American Sniper,” was killed Saturday while assisting fellow veterans suffering from PTSD. Chris served with the SEAL Team 3 Sniper Element Charlie platoon, and was the most lethal sniper in U.S. history, with 160 confirmed kills and another 95 probables. He was known to his enemies as Al-Shaitan Ramad (The Devil of Ramadi).

In 2008, near Sadr City, Chris neutralized an RPG-carrying insurgent at more than 2,000 meters with his Lapua Magnum .338 PGM. During his four combat tours, Chris was shot twice and survived six IED explosions. He left military service three years ago after earning two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor, two Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals, and one Navy and Marine Corps Commendation. He has devoted much of the last three years to working with fellow vets suffering from PTSD.

Chris leaves behind his wife Taya, two children, and a long list of family and friends. He was a tireless defender of Liberty and the Second Amendment, and he will be sorely missed”


16 posted on 02/04/2013 11:49:18 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Innovative

I will agree that Paul should have first vetted that Tweet before posting it. But that being said, remember that he has a medical degree, and was probably thinking more of what Kyle had done:

“Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn’t make sense.”

Kyle was thinking that the best way to break through PTSD is to put a gun in the hand of the veteran. DON’T DO THIS. While it may be done with permission by an expert, PTSD is a complicated mental condition, and should only be dealt with by an amateur with kid gloves.

I strongly suspect that after the psychiatrists examine the Marine, they will find he needs institutionalization and a lot of psychiatric care.

Paul could have put it more tactfully, as “Amateurs should not try to practice psychiatric medicine without a license.”


17 posted on 02/04/2013 11:52:36 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Innovative

Isn’t Ron Paul a surgeon? Live by the scalpel.........


18 posted on 02/04/2013 11:58:31 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: showme_the_Glory

‘xactly. He’s a former politician. Live by your mouth, die by your mouth.


19 posted on 02/04/2013 12:04:14 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“I strongly suspect that after the psychiatrists examine the Marine, they will find he needs institutionalization and a lot of psychiatric care.”

Since he was already diagnosed with PTSD, why didn’t the psychiatrists already know that he was dangerous and institutionalized him prior to this?!

Ron Paul’s tweet is disgusting because he almost says “it serves him right” for fighting for his country.


20 posted on 02/04/2013 12:07:57 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Kyle was thinking that the best way to break through PTSD is to put a gun in the hand of the veteran. DON’T DO THIS. While it may be done with permission by an expert, PTSD is a complicated mental condition, and should only be dealt with by an amateur with kid gloves.”

The professionals already had their shot with this guy. Evidently, they thought he was okay to go to Haiti after his tour in Iraq. There’s a lot of people who suffered PTSD and can go to a gun range fine, including Dakota Meyer, the medal of honor winner.

I’d say the professionals missed this one, not Kyle. I’m sure Kyle wouldn’t have taken him to the range if he had known how bad he was. If the guy shouldn’t have been at the gun range, he shouldn’t have been allowed to use a car, a knife or anything else. In other words he should have been in a mental facility. He had at least one recent DUI. He could have taken out a lot of people while driving too.


21 posted on 02/04/2013 12:58:17 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Innovative

I hear he’s applying for membership in the Westboro ‘Baptist Church’.


22 posted on 02/04/2013 2:14:05 PM PST by SargeK
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To: Innovative; FR_addict

I think we all agree that Paul stupidly shot his mouth off and that the Marine really needs work on his head space and timing. But it is part of an even bigger problem.

After WWII, the media pushed the idea that soldiers returning from the war were dangerous. Which outside of a few incidents proved not to be the case. But Iraq and Afghanistan may actually be worse in the long run.

Some soldiers did more than a dozen tours. The relative number of PTSD cases is extraordinarily high. And while the “acute” effects are likely not going to be unusually high, the “chronic” effects are going to be like nothing ever seen before.

As a rule of thumb, half of PTSD cases spontaneously get better. The majority of the remainder have their own curve, with most having milder forms of disability; some needing extensive care; and a relative few that are mentally gone for good.


23 posted on 02/04/2013 3:08:26 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Innovative

What an old fool, thank God his son isn’t like him.


24 posted on 02/04/2013 3:12:35 PM PST by 1217Chic
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To: Innovative; Absolutely Nobama

This increases my loathing for RuPaul even more, if possible.


25 posted on 02/04/2013 3:36:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Innovative

Ron Paul is right.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 3:41:04 PM PST by traumer
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To: Innovative

I detest Ron Paul.


27 posted on 02/04/2013 3:45:34 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Innovative

While violence is never my first option I think Ron needs a swift kick in the nutz!
A horrible thing he said!


28 posted on 02/04/2013 3:51:21 PM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: traumer; Innovative

So, traumer, you think all American servicemembers deserve to be murdered?


29 posted on 02/04/2013 3:52:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: traumer

No, no he isn’t. Anybody who thinks he is, is as stupid as he is.


30 posted on 02/04/2013 4:01:20 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Innovative

Too bad Ron Paul is no longer in Congress, because he sure deserves to be censored for that disgusting tweet.


31 posted on 02/04/2013 4:05:39 PM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Darnright

He would be celebrated by the Democrats.


32 posted on 02/04/2013 5:02:03 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: little jeremiah

No.
But he is philosophically correct.


33 posted on 02/04/2013 7:32:53 PM PST by traumer
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To: traumer

What do you mean by “philosophically correct”? That a military servicember is “living by the sword” and therefore should “die by the sword”?

IOW you think snipers should be murdered?

I don’t see any other conclusion.

APparently you and RPaul think that the military are doing evil murders and deserve to be murdered. If you don’t mean that, please explain.


34 posted on 02/04/2013 9:00:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: VaRepublican

“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men {Like Chris Kyle} stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”


35 posted on 02/05/2013 6:36:28 AM PST by Clintons-B-Gone
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To: little jeremiah

Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura filed a lawsuit last year accusing Kyle of defaming him in the book by exaggerating his description of a fight between the two at the wake for SEAL Mikey Monsoor, who was killed in Iraq in 2006.

The book quoted Ventura, also a Navy veteran, as saying he “hates America” and telling Kyle, who was mourning the death of a SEAL teammate, “You deserve to lose a few.” Kyle described punching Ventura out at the Coronado, California, bar.

In the suit, Ventura denied making the statements in the book, contending that “the entire story about a confrontation with and physical assault and battery of Governor Ventura was false and defamatory.”

Karma is a bitch....


36 posted on 02/05/2013 5:53:38 PM PST by traumer
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To: traumer

Whatever happened or did not happen between Ventura and Kyle has not a damn thing to do with his murder, nor your irrelevant quote. And your further comments clearly show that you think Kyle deserved to be murdered.

You’re a nasty little thing.


37 posted on 02/05/2013 6:20:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

From February.

Thanks Innovative.


38 posted on 05/31/2013 8:07:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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39 posted on 05/31/2013 8:08:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Innovative

Seconded.


40 posted on 05/31/2013 8:37:00 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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