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Obama: Boy Scouts should lift ban on homosexuality
Life Site Times ^ | Feb 04, 2013 | Kirsten Anderson

Posted on 02/05/2013 5:12:35 AM PST by IbJensen

WASHINGTON, D.C., February 4, 2013 (LifeSiteNews) – President Barack Obama on Sunday said the Boy Scouts of America should overturn its national ban on homosexual members and leaders, just days before the organization is scheduled to vote on the issue.

In a pre-Super Bowl interview with CBS, anchor Scott Pelley asked the president if he believed the Scouts should allow openly gay members and leaders.

"Yes," Obama said.

Pressed to elaborate, Obama said homosexuals should be able to fully participate in “every institution” that others can.

“I think that my attitude is that gays and lesbians should have access and opportunity the same way everybody else does, in every institution and walk of life,” the president said.

Since coming into office, Obama has become increasingly favorable toward the homosexualist cause. Last year, he announced his support for same-sex “marriage,” and used his second inaugural address to highlight the issue. He has also ordered his administration to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman. He also pushed for an end to the “don't ask, don't tell” policy that barred open homosexuals from serving in the military.

Although the BSA national executive board reaffirmed the national ban on homosexuality just six months ago, calling it “absolutely the best policy,” pressure from gay activists led them to announce last week that they will consider dropping the ban at their national meeting. The group is expected to vote on the issue Wednesday.

If the Scouts do end the national ban, policy on whether to admit open homosexuals will be left to local councils to decide.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhohomosexualagenda; boyscoutsofamerica; bsa; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; obamaisone
It is important to keep in mind that we are not dealing with people seeking "equality", leaders of the LGBT movement have publicly stated that they are seeking “Transforming the very fabric of society;” and “radically reordering society’s view of reality”, according to the late lesbian homosexual thinker and activist Paula Ettelbrick, not the only member of the homosexual movement but one to forthrightly lay out the plan.

In the late 1980s, she wrote, “Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family, and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society.” “We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society’s view of reality,” she wrote. In addition other leaders of the movement have made the following remarks on the issue; Nan Hunter, a professor of Law at Georgetown University Law Center, wrote in the National Journal of Sexual Orientation Law that the purpose of legalizing “gay marriage” was to “destabilize marriage’s gendered definition, thus disrupting the link between gender and marriage, thereby subverting its power differential.”

Now, when you look back at when "marriage" was officially recognized as the union between a man and woman, we find that religion recognized "holy matrimony" as a sacrament (a sacred act which serves as a witness to our Love of God), and this recognition was well received because it ended previous attitudes about women being viewed as the property of men, and actually recognized the woman's role as a respected person of society, who without society would suffer. Therefore, when we discuss the "definition of marriage", one can easily see that it is rooted in religious beliefs, and that the state (government) recognizes it, but is not in the position to redefine it. Doing so, begins to infringe upon Religious Liberty issues. It is for this reason, that most Americans are against Same-Sex Marriage.

Michelangelo Signorile wrote in OUT magazine in 1994, “A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry, not as a way of adhering to society’s moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution.”

He also mentions the following: “It is also a chance to wholly transform the definition of family in American culture.”

Homosexuals are open about their sexual desires and behaviors and that all by itself is reason enough to exclude them from positions of influence on youngsters. It is bad enough that we are compelled to talk to children about perverted sex, often before they have proper grounding in an understanding of sex as it relates to marriage and family.

1 posted on 02/05/2013 5:12:46 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Yeah, cuz putting adult male homosexuals in charge of young boys worked out so well for the Roman Catholic Church and Penn State.


2 posted on 02/05/2013 5:21:18 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: IbJensen

Meanwhile his kids have armed protection 24-7 from any type of sexual predator, our kids/grandkids are supposed to welcome perverts and pedophiles with open arms. Un-effing-believable.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 5:22:16 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: IbJensen

Let the polictical pressure and lawsuits begin. The USA, the place where gay will become the new norm.


4 posted on 02/05/2013 5:22:37 AM PST by grb
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To: IbJensen

America Should Lift Ban on Decent Human Beings in White House.


5 posted on 02/05/2013 5:24:35 AM PST by albie
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To: IbJensen

Obama is the titular leader of the B.S.A. Why doesn’t he just try issuing an executive order to them?


6 posted on 02/05/2013 5:25:47 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: IbJensen

Miss Black America pageant should allow all races.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 5:28:20 AM PST by bgill
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To: Graybeard58

I thought he was too old to be a scout. Must be interested in being a leader I imagine.


8 posted on 02/05/2013 5:28:46 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: albie

How could this happen with the moronic marxist as the TITular head of the DemocRAT Party?

At the beginning of his first calamitous four-year-term this asshat issued an edict that preference was to be given to LGTB candidates for White Hut jobs. Obozo has 900 White Hut employees getting the big bucks for shuffling millions of pages of paper around their desks.

There is, I dare say, not one decent person amongst the White Hut staffers.


9 posted on 02/05/2013 5:32:27 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: DuncanWaring

So the president would be fine with men taking his children camping?


10 posted on 02/05/2013 5:34:24 AM PST by Machfour
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To: IbJensen
Obama is the most obnoxious sort of busy-body ~ wants to stick his nose into everybody's business ~ all of it.

His mother should have slapped him down and stomped on him a bit the first time he mouthed off to her.

Sometimes this idiot forgets that he is the Executive Branch of government, a 24/7 job, so when he proposes violating my right to assemble, that's actionable under the Fifth Amendment (or should be ~ the Torts Claims Act should have a section in it about collecting damages from obnoxious politicians).

11 posted on 02/05/2013 5:35:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: bgill

There should be a White Caucus.

A White History Month.

Martin Luther King Day should be abolished and a Praise To Allah Day substituted.

Presidents’ Day is too broad. Break it down to: Washington’s Birthday. Why lump them all together? Blending Clinton, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson with George Washington is sacrilege.


12 posted on 02/05/2013 5:37:02 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yep, the left will slam the Catholic Church all day long for its homosexual pedophiles,

and at the same time push for putting homosexuals in close contact leadership roles with young boys.

They’ll scream and hollar at you for equating homosexuality with pedophilia, even though the statistics bear out that correlation.


13 posted on 02/05/2013 5:37:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: muawiyah

Poor Obama.

He’s had several names, no daddy, a woman of lose morals for a mama.

It’s Billy Goat Clinton all over again.


14 posted on 02/05/2013 5:38:51 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Machfour

Good point.

No one would send their 12 yr old daughter camping with a man who was attracted to females...

So why is it OK to send 12 yr old boys camping with men attracted to males?

Because it furthers their anti-Christian agenda. Nothing more than that.


15 posted on 02/05/2013 5:40:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Machfour

I don’t think the president would be fine with anyone taking his children camping.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 5:45:51 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MrB
And Hollywood should ban homosexuals/pedophiles from the set. Maybe Doogie Howser would have a different life style.

I can hear the prosecuting attorney's first question now.

Tell me Mr Harris, at what age were you seduced into your lifestyle, and who was the perpetrator?

17 posted on 02/05/2013 5:55:35 AM PST by ibytoohi (What the hell has happened to my country?)
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To: MrB

At this point, anyone pushing for the Boy Scouts to welcome homosexuals either wants to destroy the Scouts or is an advocate of child molestation, or both.


18 posted on 02/05/2013 5:55:54 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: IbJensen

Seriously now ~ i met his mother ~ she was quite plain ~ and didn’t strike me as a hard partying gal. The loose morals charge arises out of the fevered imaginations of people who have a bone to pick with her worthless son.


19 posted on 02/05/2013 5:55:54 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: IbJensen

Tell you what...Why don’t you come out of the closet and then we can have a “dialogue” about your ideas, regarding sexuality and even homosexuality....


20 posted on 02/05/2013 5:57:27 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DuncanWaring

The left wants to destroy any institution or tradition based on Judaeo-Christian foundations.


21 posted on 02/05/2013 5:58:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: IbJensen

Sorry Barry, you’ll never be a Boy Scout because they don’t accept homos. Thank God.


22 posted on 02/05/2013 6:02:53 AM PST by trailboss800
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To: IbJensen

Queers will NOT have “access and opportunity” with my children. That could only come from a degenerate.


23 posted on 02/05/2013 6:07:38 AM PST by MichiganCheese (The darker the culture, the brighter your light can shine.)
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To: IbJensen

Somewhere I read that the LGBT population is only 3% of the population yet they commit 33% of sexual crimes against children. I’m willing to bet that the figure is watered down and that the percentage could be higher in respect to pedophelia.


24 posted on 02/05/2013 6:08:24 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: DuncanWaring

Perhaps we should.

We’ve obviously lifted the ban on low IQ presidents - what with Jimmuh and now the bat-eared b*stard.


25 posted on 02/05/2013 6:17:00 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: IbJensen
Dear President Obama,

I would appreciate an opportunity to take your daughters camping one weekend. I think it would be a very enriching experience for them. You and Michelle would have a relaxing weekend to yourselves while they're gone.

I swear, on my honor, as a heterosexual male, nothing will happen to them. You don't need to waste any taxpayer money by sending Secret Service agents along.

Sincerely,
ArGee

26 posted on 02/05/2013 6:18:54 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: IbJensen
I'm sick about this whole thing. If it passes, I think I'm going to have to go on media blackout like I did after 0's election. What scares me even more than gays in the Scouts are the rainbow merit badges for diversity, tolerance, peace through feng shui, and whatever the hell else the libs can come up with.

I'm currently slated to attend two Scout fundraisers in the next month. If this passes, I don't know what I'm going to do.

27 posted on 02/05/2013 6:24:00 AM PST by old and tired
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To: old and tired

I feel the same way.

Admitting and recognizing sodomists isn’t my idea of the BSA; rather it’s going the same way as our infiltrated military.


28 posted on 02/05/2013 6:29:52 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen
I really hope BSA has the courage and strength to stand up against this imposition.
Parents want at least one wholesome place where their kids can learn something and be safe.
Scouts should always be prepared. Is BSA prepared for the massive drop in membership that will result if they acquiesce?

29 posted on 02/05/2013 6:39:21 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: IbJensen

Says the Pervert In Chief....


30 posted on 02/05/2013 6:50:14 AM PST by onedoug
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To: IbJensen
Obama needs therapy.
31 posted on 02/05/2013 6:51:32 AM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: IbJensen

As things stand now, for the BSA to admit homosexuals will be the end of the BSA, with the Catholic church, the Mormon church, and several other major churches letting it be known that if they agree to this, they will immediately lose over ONE MILLION Boy Scouts, and any number of church meeting areas.

Likewise, the BSA will lose enormous amounts of money, because their donations will completely dry up, in that liberals are not big on giving to charity, just for the sake of doing so; and corporations are fickle at best, giving only for tax purposes.

On the plus side for the BSA, they will get a bunch of pedophile lawsuits, and any concern for Scouting will go out the window in favor of supporting Democrat politicians. They will have effectively turned the Boy Scouts into a leftist Jugend organization.


32 posted on 02/05/2013 6:52:05 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: IbJensen

If the Scouts lift the ban on queers Obama will be volunteering to be a camp counselor.


33 posted on 02/05/2013 6:52:06 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: IbJensen
Tolerance is one thing, forced tolerance is another thing altogether. It's Tyrrany.
Without the right to say NO!, other rights are pointless.
We all know that the imposition of gayness has nothing to do with rights, tolerance or equality, but everything to do with the willful destruction of yet another old Christian institution.
If they want boy scouts for gays, start a separate organization and see how many signs up without coercion.

34 posted on 02/05/2013 6:53:25 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: IbJensen

Everything that comes out of this man’s mouth is an abomination. I can’t even look at a picture of him or hear his voice because it makes me physically ill.


35 posted on 02/05/2013 7:03:16 AM PST by usmom
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To: old and tired

AT&T are in charge of the pressure. The way I understand it, they,along with Bass Pro Shops and a few others found on an easy google search, are pressuring this withthe threat of withholding money/funding. whoever’s in charge of them is the authority, and, of course BSA who if they wimp out on this are too beholden to financing to be moral leaders.


36 posted on 02/05/2013 7:05:23 AM PST by stanne
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To: IbJensen

Big difference. In the military they have to still be discreet or run the risk of getting fragged or blue on blue.


37 posted on 02/05/2013 7:06:16 AM PST by USAF80
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To: IbJensen

Hmmm... There’s a target on the “freedom to associate” under this regime. Because having the freedom to associate includes the freedom to exclude. *ESPECIALLY* when not excluding puts predator and prey into the same room.


38 posted on 02/05/2013 7:26:56 AM PST by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: IbJensen
Is anyone noticing the real money quote in what Obama said?

“I think that my attitude is that gays and lesbians should have access and opportunity the same way everybody else does, in every institution and walk of life,”

The reference to "every institution" almost certainly means churches. Every church that teaches Judeo-Christian morality will be in the feds' crosshairs. Mormans and Catholics will be first, but they will come for all of us. Probably first lose tax exempt status and be sued repeatedly with the collusion of the feds. Arrests for hate crimes may follow.

I am trying to rejoice about this (Matthew 5:11-13), but I am too sad for my son. He loves Scouting, and now that will be gone.

39 posted on 02/05/2013 8:22:09 AM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: usmom

Amazing.

I feel the same way!

The phony news networks gush over the intelligence of this simpleton who regurgitates the most boring nonsense!


40 posted on 02/05/2013 8:32:18 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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