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The NRA’s tone-deaf rhetoric
The Washington Post ^ | February 5, 2013 | Eugene Robinson

Posted on 02/05/2013 7:52:29 AM PST by fractionated

Despite the best efforts of the National Rifle Association (NRA) and like-minded groups to make sure this business remains unfinished, reducing gun violence remains stubbornly high on the nation’s agenda.

This is partly due to the ravings of Wayne LaPierre, the NRA’s executive vice president and spokesman, who almost single-handedly, or single-mouthedly, is making the pro-gun argument sound even crazier and more irresponsible than it is. And that’s saying something.

This weekend, LaPierre treated viewers of “Fox News Sunday” to some of his lunacy. Anchor Chris Wallace gave him the opportunity to disavow the NRA’s shameful ad accusing President Obama of hypocrisy for supporting gun control while his own family is protected by armed Secret Service agents. LaPierre stuck to his guns, such as they were....

In Senate hearings last week, LaPierre portrayed life in the United States as one long horror movie. “What people all over the country fear today is being abandoned by their government,” he said. “If a tornado hits, if a hurricane hits, if a riot occurs, that they’re going to be out there alone, and the only way they’re going to protect themselves, in the cold, in the dark, when they’re vulnerable, is with a firearm.”

He left out the zombies.

With so many members of Congress already bought and paid for, it’s understandable that the NRA would feel a measure of confidence. But I believe the pro-gun lobby is seriously overplaying its hand, and that the wind has shifted....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; gunrights; guns; nra; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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The NRA has really been shooting itself in the foot (no pun intended) lately, and could do more harm than good on this issue.
1 posted on 02/05/2013 7:52:42 AM PST by fractionated
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To: fractionated

The NRA has added 500,000 members in recent weeks. The Post’s circulation has dropped 30% in recent years. Who is tone deaf?


2 posted on 02/05/2013 7:53:40 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Dr. Sivana

No less than Bill Clintoon credited the NRA with the defeat of Algore’s presidential campaign.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 7:55:56 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Dr. Sivana

NRA soaring, Post falling, bump.


4 posted on 02/05/2013 7:56:05 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: fractionated

Seeing this idiot use words like “lunacy” is almost as amusing as his notion he’s a capable thinker and relevant.


5 posted on 02/05/2013 7:57:39 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny ( 9iThought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: fractionated
Uh ... sure.

CT?

6 posted on 02/05/2013 7:58:04 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: fractionated

NRA more popular than the president last time they surveyed.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 7:58:37 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: fractionated

The NRA has only been shooting itself in the foot if you are listening to the MSM and drinking their Koolaid. The NRA is finally listening to their membership. We have drawn a line in the sand, and are not going to take it anymore.


8 posted on 02/05/2013 7:58:59 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: fractionated

How does Eugene “Token” Robinson keep his job. Surely even the Washington Post can do better than this.


9 posted on 02/05/2013 7:59:49 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: fractionated

**** reducing gun violence remains stubbornly high on the nation’s agenda. ****

Reducing gun violence has never been the goal. The total disarmament of citizens has been the goal.

If a reduction in violence had been the goal the problem would have been solved in 1968.

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.

- Lyndon Johnson when he signed the 1968 GCA into law.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 8:00:06 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: fractionated

Wow, you’ve really become a fantastic lib cheerleader over the past two weeks. I smell ozone in your future...


11 posted on 02/05/2013 8:01:10 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: fractionated

The NRA has really been shooting itself in the foot (no pun intended) lately, and could do more harm than good on this issue.


Concern troll?


12 posted on 02/05/2013 8:01:10 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: fractionated

LaPierre sucks as a spokesman. The NRA has a lot of money.
Hire Fred Thompson a pro.


13 posted on 02/05/2013 8:01:32 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: fractionated
The NRA has really been shooting itself in the foot (no pun intended) lately, and could do more harm than good on this issue.

Go back the the White Hut, shill.

"Gun violence" has been declining for years as the rate of gun ownership has increased.

INCONVENIENT FACT: According to the peer-reviewed Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, countries with strict gun control laws have higher murder and suicide rates than those without.

DOCUMENTATION: Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence by Don B. Kates and Gary Mauser, Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, pages 649-694. (To download a PDF copy of the journal article, simply Google the title. It is available on the web free of charge.)

QUOTE FROM ARTICLE: “If you are surprised by our findings, so are we. We did not begin this research with any intent to “exonerate” handguns, but there it is — a negative finding, to be sure, but a negative finding is nevertheless a positive contribution. It directs us where not to aim public health resources.”

INDIRECTION: The trick hoplophobes always use is to say that America has higher gun-murder rates than other countries, but many of those “murders” are criminals killed in the act of committing violent crimes or criminal gang members killing each other. Compare absolute murder rates, and the result is “more guns, less murder.” (Source: GunFacts.info)

SECOND INCONVENIENT FACT: According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used by US citizens 2.5 million times per year to prevent violent crimes like rape, robbery, home-invasion and carjacking, 99% of the time without a shot being fired. (Source: GunFacts.info)

THIRD INCONVENIENT FACT: Rifles are used in less than 1% of gun crimes. “Assault weapons” (AKA semiautomatic rifles) are used in a small fraction of that 1%. (Source: GunFacts.info)

QUESTION: If gun-free zones make people safe, then why don’t we declare the immediate vicinity of the President and Vice-President to be gun-free zones and send the Secret Service home? Or are gun-free zones good enough for our kids, but not good enough for our overlords? It is the height of arrogance and hypocrisy for politicians to surround themselves with armed guards while dictating that our children be soft targets.

METAPHOR: America has more private gun ownership than most other countries, so naturally there are more gun murders. America also has more hospitals than most other countries, so naturally we have more people dying in hospitals. Does that mean we should outlaw hospitals?

FINAL INCONVENIENT FACT: Since 1900, governments have murdered 262 million of their own citizens, and gun control was always the first step.

FINAL DOCUMENTATION:

20th Century Democide (Google title for link)

Of Holocausts and Gun Control, Washington University Law Quarterly, Volume 75, Number 3, Fall 1997 (pp. 1237-1275) (To download a PDF copy of the journal article, simply Google the title. It is available on the web free of charge.)

14 posted on 02/05/2013 8:01:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: fractionated

Only a nOOb troll would post a Eugene Robinson article along with a comment that cast that marxist Bronco-Bama son of an author in a favorable light and denigrated the NRA.

fractionated — since 2012-12-12


15 posted on 02/05/2013 8:01:46 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

How about this “tone” -

We know your end goal is total confiscation.
We know your means to that end is incrementalism.

We say “NO”.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 8:02:46 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane.”

He was talking about the government, right?


17 posted on 02/05/2013 8:02:54 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I used your comment on his Facebook page where this article is being discussed. Thought I would let you know that I plagiarized you. Without attribution. Sue me!


18 posted on 02/05/2013 8:03:28 AM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: fractionated
Has anybody checked to see if Eugene Robinson carries his own weapon?

Or does he have Security protection?

If so, let's hear about it.

If not, let's spread the word:

Eugene Robinson is unarmed and his house is unprotected!

19 posted on 02/05/2013 8:04:39 AM PST by eCSMaster (Palin was correct!)
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To: fractionated

The NRA has 3 million fans.

AA sophist Eugene Robinson has three - his poodle, the corner Ripple clerk and the guy who cuts out his column for lining the cat litter box.


20 posted on 02/05/2013 8:04:53 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Timber Rattler

The thread he posted just before this one bashes the Catholic Church. O3 is in the air...


21 posted on 02/05/2013 8:05:01 AM PST by EEGator
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To: fractionated

Newbie, why are you posting this crap from Eugene Robinson of all people?


22 posted on 02/05/2013 8:05:14 AM PST by kabar
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To: fractionated

IBTZ!


23 posted on 02/05/2013 8:06:47 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: fractionated

I don’t think this Washington Post article is painting the true picture of the current status of the gun control debate in the American public.

I believe that the NRA and the outspoken gun-rights advocates are being very effective with their arguments. Why else would the Senate (Harry Reid) back away from Feinstein’s proposal (but will probably resort to “trickery” to get things in it passed)?

The Dem’s are most definitely losing this arguments to the NRA, and the Washington Post is doing what all good Democrats do: When they are losing a debate on an issue, they “Alinsky” their opponents.


24 posted on 02/05/2013 8:07:11 AM PST by MNGal
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To: fractionated

IBTZ


25 posted on 02/05/2013 8:07:53 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: fractionated

Sen Feinstein did bigger damage to the AWB movement. To the ones who did not look at her bill, they assumed the gov want to ban the AK-47 and AR-15, and everything else is OK. Problem is her bill if adhered to would ban all semi autos with detach mags including wooden stock rifles (hunting rifle); lever action rifles (cowboy type rifles) and most 22LR rifles (guns used to hunt small game like rabbit, squirel and smaller. IAW most guns currently owned by gun owners would be banned except one shot repeaters. Thus in the future if two or more home invaders break into your house, your family will have to form a late 19th Century fire by rank with one shot repeaters if forced to engage with home invaders with semi auto pistols with illegal 15+ shot mags, while your family will fire one shot and forced to reload. I think Custer learned the hard way at Little Big Horn (Indians with lever action repeaters vs one shot US Army carbines). That is why NRA ranks swelled by 500,000+ in one month including Dem blue collar that voted for Obama in 2012.


26 posted on 02/05/2013 8:09:26 AM PST by Fee
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To: fractionated

Robinson is projecting. You know what projecting is don’t you troll?
Projecting is attributing one’s own faults to others, because one cannot handle the truth.


27 posted on 02/05/2013 8:09:43 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Fee

I’m betting Eugene is one of those lefties that doesn’t know the difference between “semi-auto” and “select fire”.


28 posted on 02/05/2013 8:11:57 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: fractionated

The NRA has learned it’s lesson well and does not need to apologize for anything in it’s defense of the 2nd Amendment.


29 posted on 02/05/2013 8:14:27 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: fractionated

fractionated
Since Dec 12, 2012
view home page, enter name:

fractionated hasn’t created an about page

YET ANOTHER NOOB(DU “Plant?)!


30 posted on 02/05/2013 8:15:10 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: fractionated

We don’t need gun control.

We need liberal control.

}:-)4


31 posted on 02/05/2013 8:18:18 AM PST by Moose4 (SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.)
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To: fractionated

The NRA has been shooting itself in the foot? You are either believe leftist propaganda or you are a leftist. Which is it?


32 posted on 02/05/2013 8:27:36 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: fractionated

The NRA had the guts to suggest that Newtown hire armed security guards for their schools and was mocked and denigrated by the Libtard Press. Now Newtown has voted to hire armed security guards for their schools.

Even the Press is admitting that the NRA is winning the inflence war over gun control.


33 posted on 02/05/2013 8:28:17 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: fractionated

“accusing President Obama of hypocrisy for supporting gun control while his own family is protected by armed Secret Service agents.”

Yeah, we shouldn’t accuse anyone of hypocrisy when they are being hypocrits!


34 posted on 02/05/2013 8:34:36 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: fractionated
“If a tornado hits, if a hurricane hits, if a riot occurs, that they’re going to be out there alone, and the only way they’re going to protect themselves, in the cold, in the dark, when they’re vulnerable, is with a firearm.”

Just ask some residents of New Jersey.
When you count on the Government to meet your needs, you're setting yourself up for huge disappointment.

Depend on yourself - and be prepared to defend yourself.

35 posted on 02/05/2013 8:39:35 AM PST by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: fractionated

Obviously you don’t know that FR is a pro-gun conservative site. I believe you’d feel more comfortable posting on MoveOn.org.


36 posted on 02/05/2013 8:49:52 AM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: fractionated

Bullsh!t!!! People are joining the NRA in droves.....Liberals like Eugene Robinson and Chris Wallace are always going to prsent consrvatives in this light. Question remains are Obamas kid’s more valuable than ours?


37 posted on 02/05/2013 8:52:10 AM PST by ontap
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To: fractionated

Hehe, your propaganda dump won’t work here. The NRA’s tactics and bold positioning are actually improving its image. Lefties do not understand the idea of moral clarity. We have a right to live. It’s a God-given right and everybody intuitively gets that, even most libs. And if we have a right to live, we have a right to defend our life, whether as individuals, families, or states. Everybody gets that. And that’s why the NRA and others are in a position to win this big. Propaganda to the contrary is just embarrassing, for the author, and for the pawns who believe it. Sorry. Like I tell some telemarketers, get a different employer. You can do better.

Oh, and welcome to FR. :)


38 posted on 02/05/2013 8:54:47 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: sergeantdave

Actually the NRA has over 4 million members and is quickly approaching 5 million thanks to Odumbo.


39 posted on 02/05/2013 8:54:47 AM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: fractionated

Only an absolute troll (like you) would post an article by an avowed socialist such as Eugene Robinson and agree with the article. Do us a favor and take your mindless drivel elsewhere.


40 posted on 02/05/2013 8:55:08 AM PST by ohioman
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To: fractionated

The goal of this government (President) is to have all gun owners register their guns. Once this is accomplished, the governmet will know where every gun is and can confiscate them on short notice. Our freedom under the second amendment will mean nothing. So eveyone should reject any notion of
registering every wepon. K2afe


41 posted on 02/05/2013 8:57:29 AM PST by k2afe
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To: ontap

It appers fractionated has left the building!!!


42 posted on 02/05/2013 8:58:11 AM PST by ontap
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To: eCSMaster

Eugene Robinson is a native of Orangeburg, South Carolina, the site of the infamous “Orangeburg Massacre” of 1968 where three rioters were killed & the city has been racially polarized ever since. He is of that generation.

Any disagreement with his views is always due to racism, the NRA is a white mens’ club, the KKK is alive & well, the Republican Party is home to all the bigots who left the Democratic Party after LBJ, the civil rights struggle of the 1960’s never really ended, you get the idea.

I live in the capital Columbia, & I would love to see a pro-gun control demonstration at the State House. Counterprotesters would outnumber gungrabbers ten to one. Many think the most gun friendly states are Idaho & Montana. They should visit the Palmetto State.


43 posted on 02/05/2013 8:59:50 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: fractionated

I think it is way overdue that we finally make the AAA responsible for drunk driving.


44 posted on 02/05/2013 9:00:53 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: fractionated

FR’s definition of a “Concern Troll”:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2112236/posts


45 posted on 02/05/2013 9:02:14 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: fractionated
40 lashes with a wet noodle, noob.
46 posted on 02/05/2013 9:02:44 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“The NRA had the guts to suggest that Newtown hire armed security guards for their schools and was mocked and denigrated by the Libtard Press.”

What the NRA suggested was a Federal power grab, placing federal security guards in schools. This should be handled at the local level. Nevertheless I’ve been generally impressed with how they’ve stepped up to the plate. Still I expect more from them, NY state just passed an unconstitutional gun grab, the NRA is well funded so I wait with interest for them to spend some of that money by filing a legal challenge against the State of NY.


47 posted on 02/05/2013 9:03:31 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: kabar

He might be Eugene:)


48 posted on 02/05/2013 9:04:47 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: fractionated

Here is a good article by Forbes that shows just who is getting shot in what foot. You should read it. It might open your libtard eyes to the truth.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucerogers/2013/02/01/nra-winning-the-influence-battle-over-gun-control/


49 posted on 02/05/2013 9:04:55 AM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: eCSMaster
Eugene Robinson is unarmed and his house is unprotected!

Don't bet on that... Who was the Chicago anti-gun writer some years ago who shot a kid who went swimming in his pool using an illegal handgun? He said he didn't feel safe, and got it from a relative in law enforcement.

Given his connections, neither he, nor the relative who gave him the illegal handgun got more than the tiniest slap on the wrist.

BTW, he continued to write columns singing the praises of "gun control" after that!

Mark

50 posted on 02/05/2013 9:08:49 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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