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White House Responds To Drones Memo: Strikes Are 'Legal,' 'Ethical' And ‘Wise'
Mediaite ^ | 2/5/13 | Matt Wilstein

Posted on 02/05/2013 2:30:57 PM PST by Nachum

It’s no surprise that among the first questions White House Press Secretary Jay Carney received at today’s press briefing was one that concerned a recently-leaked Justice Department memo that offered justification for killing U.S. citizens abroad in predator drone attacks. Carney began by clarifying that the memo in question was an “unclassified document” prepared for members of Congress. “The president takes his responsibilities very seriously,” Carney said. “And first and foremost that’s his responsibility to protect the United States.” He continued by saying that the president is dedicated to

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AND-....that's what Brian Boitano would do!
1 posted on 02/05/2013 2:31:02 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

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2 posted on 02/05/2013 2:32:35 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Spoken by the most illegal, unethical, unwise administration in history.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 2:33:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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4 posted on 02/05/2013 2:33:39 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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5 posted on 02/05/2013 2:34:52 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How would you change the policy? This is one policy I do not dislike.


6 posted on 02/05/2013 2:38:27 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: Nachum
How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American

Drone strikes: Obama moves to block release of files on kill programme [6/12]

7 posted on 02/05/2013 2:40:30 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Nachum

Good thing Obama doesn’t use “Water-Boarding.”


8 posted on 02/05/2013 2:43:38 PM PST by jacob allen
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To: Nachum
Is this what the Nobel committee had in mind when they proactively awarded their coveted Peace Prize to Obama in 2009?

-PJ

9 posted on 02/05/2013 2:45:24 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: chopperjc

Even the old USSR at least went to the effort of a “trial in absentia”.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 2:46:23 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Nachum
And...

What about Obama's "if we could save just one life...?"

He doesn't seem too concerned about the collateral damage from a drone strike.

I guess the "one life" meme only applies when taking rights away from law-abiding Americans.

-PJ

11 posted on 02/05/2013 2:47:42 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: jiggyboy

So before we could put a drone on a person who is fighting with our enemy in a foreign land we should have a trial? Seems like that could cost lives. I respect your opinion but in this case Obama has it right.

The liberals seem to agree with you. I will admit it could be a slippery slope if taken too far.


12 posted on 02/05/2013 2:59:52 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc; Nachum; jiggyboy
Article I Section 9 Clause 3:

“No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.”

In the time honored tradition of classic despots, Hussein is unconstitutionally attainting American citizens.

13 posted on 02/05/2013 3:07:29 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Nachum; MestaMachine; thouworm; maggief; Myrddin; shibumi; Hardraade; Candor7; Absolutely Nobama; ..

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...”White House Responds To Drones Memo: Strikes Are ‘Legal,’ ‘Ethical’ And ‘Wise”...

Ping. TM, too.

Article and # 7.

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14 posted on 02/05/2013 3:17:54 PM PST by LucyT (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Jacquerie

So just to be clear if Americans are fighting with al queda you believe we should not target them.


15 posted on 02/05/2013 3:18:57 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

So just to be clear, extrajudicial executions of American citizens is unconstitutional.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 3:21:59 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

I understand your argument. I personally disagree.

I have seen something I never thought I would see today though, Glen Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill, and David Sirota on the same side as free Republic. Full moon tonight :)


17 posted on 02/05/2013 3:27:51 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

Not my argument. The Constitution. Get it?


18 posted on 02/05/2013 3:31:31 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

No need to be nasty because I disagree. We have a Supreme Court that disagrees over the constitution all the time. You get it?


19 posted on 02/05/2013 3:36:53 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc
You have a LOT to learn..

Are you even American?

20 posted on 02/05/2013 3:51:02 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Nachum
Somebody needs to ask these $&hit for brains if they claim the authority to use drones to fire on and kill Americans in side the Continental United States.
I saw a clip of Groucho Holder stating that they can use these strikes in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and then He mumbled and in "other parts of the World".

21 posted on 02/05/2013 3:58:28 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: Michael Barnes

Oooo. Ouch. That is right have a disagreement on an issue of national security where I am advocating to take out Al queda members who are citizens but operating outside the country. If caught within US borders then it is law enforcement. Somehow these beliefs get me called unamerican.

Sorry I miss the reference.

By the way I served, my wife served and I have a son currently serving in th Air Force so yeah I like to think I am American. Have a great day.


22 posted on 02/05/2013 4:05:29 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: Nachum

I’m just hoping that while I’m basking on the beach in Qatar while on vacation, that a member of al qaeda doesn’t lay a blanket down close to me.


23 posted on 02/05/2013 5:23:18 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: chopperjc
So you don't have a problem with a star chamber that can decide to kill anyone they deem worthy for whatever secret reasons they choose?

You better hope you don't get on their radar.

24 posted on 02/05/2013 5:40:46 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: chopperjc
How would you change the policy? This is one policy I do not dislike.

So we can kill them without due process, but we can't waterboard them because waterboarding doesn't kill them?

Do you see the disconnect there?

25 posted on 02/05/2013 6:05:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: jacob allen
Good thing Obama doesn’t use “Water-Boarding.”

THAT the New York Times would object to... ( because Bush was involved) But killing American citizens using drone strikes? No problemo... BECAUSE the New York Times kisses dem butt. And whatever Obama wants, Obama gets...

26 posted on 02/05/2013 6:15:54 PM PST by GOPJ (What EVIDENCE justified blaming Benghazi on... an obscure video? Freeper TexasVoter)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Spoken by the most illegal, unethical, unwise administration in history.

Or to quote the head of the ethics department of the Obama Administration: "What difference does it make?" How's that for morally bankrupt?

27 posted on 02/05/2013 6:19:57 PM PST by GOPJ (What EVIDENCE justified blaming Benghazi on... an obscure video? Freeper TexasVoter)
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To: GOPJ

28 posted on 02/05/2013 6:23:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Nachum

Isikoff was on with Andrea Mitchel today explaining to the MSNBC audience, IIRC, that although Barry would certainly be trusted with the authority to kill any American citizen without any checks and balances, there is no guarantee that the next (implied GOP) president would be as trustworthy as Barry and he/she might use such power against dissenters on the left! So to protect American from future abuse of power perhaps, Barry might want to allow some additional oversight on his own drone strikes as demanded by the ACLU and EU.


29 posted on 02/05/2013 7:08:50 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

As I said I do have concerns. There is a possibility of a slipper slope. I hope congress will keep oversight so nobody goes to far. I would not condone unless it is a battlefield situation outside of US


30 posted on 02/05/2013 7:11:56 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Killing someone on a battlefield and torturing them are two totally different issues.


31 posted on 02/05/2013 7:17:35 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

They can kill people on American soil.


32 posted on 02/05/2013 8:05:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I doubt that. The white paper published did not specifically say it one way or the other but that would be unconstitutional. Even if terrorist are here illegally they have always been treated as a law enforcement problem. Most here found it incomprehensible that Miranda rights were given to the underware bomber. Should any targeted assassinations be conducted within our borders that would be a different situation. I know the left and right would not stand for that. I look forward to congress flushing this out but I sincerely doubt it would cover persons within US borders. This presidential finding will be severely limited.

Realistically can you imagine the left thinking this would be ok let alone the right?


33 posted on 02/05/2013 8:41:59 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

“By the way I served, my wife served and I have a son currently serving in th Air Force so yeah I like to think I am American. “

You didn’t get the memo that veterans are on the watch list now?


34 posted on 02/06/2013 2:43:06 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: Nachum

“A study, however, from Columbia Law School’s Human Rights Institute finds that the number of Pakistani civilians killed in drone strikes “significantly and consistently underestimated” and that as many as 98% of those killed by drone strikes are civilians.”

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164/a-list-of-children-killed-by-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-and-yemen


35 posted on 02/06/2013 2:44:54 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: chopperjc
Realistically can you imagine the left thinking this would be ok let alone the right?

I can imagine Ubama thinking it's OK.

36 posted on 02/06/2013 5:35:08 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well in hearing further he does not, Carmey specifically said out of country only. I have seen no evidence Obama wants to kill people in America. I understand the disliked policies but the black helicopter scenario is a bit silly


37 posted on 02/06/2013 7:39:21 AM PST by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

You’ll think differently a year from now.


38 posted on 02/06/2013 7:56:22 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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